Preparing to move to California. How?

[fulloflead]

I may be moving to California inside the next year or two.

I guess the BIG question is, do I need to do anything special in order to bring my guns with me?

Mostly, what I have are revolvers and most of those are about 1989 manufacturer or older.
I have a few autopistols: Kimber, Browning Hi-Power, Glock 17, Ruger MkII
One bolt-action rifle and a single-shot shotgun - which are pretty old.
I've got two handfuls of hi-caps for the Glock & Hi-Power and that's about it.

So, what do you think will give me the least headache and keep me within the law? I'm thinkin' I just need to trade those hi-caps for 10-rounders and just put everything in the moving van and go. Am I right?

Thanks.

 

[50 Shooter]

http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/

 

[nico]

I'm not trying to give you crap or anything, but why are you moving to California?

edit: just for the record, I prefaced my post to prevent it from being interpreted like the two that followed it.

 

[TMM]

yes, WHY, WHY are you moving TO the People's Soviet Republik of California, while all the Kali gunnies are bitching about that hell hole and how they want to get out???

stay where you are.

~TMM

 

[peacefuljeffrey]

There is nothing you can do to try to "keep within the law" in California.

They keep changing the law to try to make whatever it is you are currently doing/owning illegal.

A decision to move to CA, in my opinion, is about as stupid a decision as looking down your barrel to see if you can figure out what's causing a hang-fire.

-Jeffrey

 

[peacefuljeffrey]

So, what do you think will give me the least headache and keep me within the law? I'm thinkin' I just need to trade those hi-caps for 10-rounders and just put everything in the moving van and go. Am I right?

I suppose the Jews thought the same thing: "They won't bother me as long as I agree to wear this yellow star arm band...right? ...Right?"



The idea that you seem fully okay with trading in your "HI-caps" (they are NORMAL caps, dude) for 10-rounders almost makes me want to vomit.

A little supposition on my part, here:

- You don't mind having a 5- or 15-day waiting period, since it's "no skin off my nose."
- You don't mind having to keep your guns 1000 feet or more away from any school, or anything that could remotely be called a school -- "it might save children's lives..."
- You don't mind not having those silly flash suppressors on the barrels of rifles. Only Rambo-wannabes have those, so it was okay when they were banned.
- You don't mind the fact that only the rich and/or famous are allowed to carry -- after all, what does a common street criminal want with you, anyway?


How many other useless restrictions on your rights are you okay with, besides the 10-round limit?


-Jeffrey

 

[Gunsnrovers]

If you come, welcome.

The above like will provide you with the information you need.

Your long guns sound fine. No issues.

You will have 60 days to register your handguns (plus $19 each).

As for your hi-caps, it is legal to have them in state prior to 2001. Magazines possessed in the PRK prior to that are grandfather. It is illegal to buy, sell, or import hi-caps after that. How that effects you is your call.

 

[nico]

peacefulljeffrey, maybe you should wait for the original poster to reply before you start ASSuming things and attacking him. Some people have these things called "jobs" and "families" that sometimes necessitate doing things such as moving to an area that a person would otherwise stay away from.

 

[Mannlicher]

Spoken like a true Marylander. Another second class citizenship.

But you are right to a point, Peacefuljeffery does not sound all that peaceful.

 

[Mauserguy]

Welcome to the PRC. As a native of the Peoples' Republic, I can attest to just how wierd it is out here. Having visited other states, I feel like I need a passport to come home.

It is not just the gun laws that are screwy here. Wait till you start paying the taxes, have to deal with HOA condo commandos, city councils that behave like workers' soviets (my city council banned washing your car), and a legal system that is from another planet.

If you have kids, be careful about sending them to public schools. My sister was able to hand pick the school her kids would go to. Apparently the principal at the closest school was a politically correct loony, so they had to take the kids to a school that was farther away, but where they actually teach the kids to read and write, not indoctrinate them. Home schooling and private schools have become a huge industry here, since the teachers' union is out of control, only Arnold has had the cajones to stand up to them, and it is looking like he will be burned at the stake with the next election.

Having said all of the above, you will love the weather and the close proximity of some great natural features. In two hours you can go to some decent mountains, arid deserts, or watch the Huntington bikini team play volley ball. My plan is to stay here, building my career, but by real estate in Nevada, Colorado or Utah, preparing for an eventual escape.

Also, be careful of the real estate market out here. It's going to collapse. It has fallen before, and buying right now may not be wise, especially since the economy here is not as strong as it used to be.
Good luck,
Mauserguy

PS: Did I mention that we have great weather?

 

[Bufford t. Justice]

I was going to ask the poster why on Gods green earth move there but since that's been covered I'll just interject a bit here...a job is a choice. There are plenty more in gun friendly states. Nothing on earth could force me to move to a communist run state. Nothing.
Do yourself a favor and just say no.

 

[Selfdfenz]

fullof lead

You're not planning to take an auto with you are you?

Cali auto taxes are pretty high from what I understand.

S-

 

[AlaskaErik]

Just check your rights in at the border as you cross into the PRC.

 

[nico]

Spoken like a true Marylander. Another second class citizenship.

But you are right to a point, Peacefuljeffery does not sound all that peaceful.

yeah, because if you live in an area full of antigun jerks you must agree with all gun control huh?

 

[Gunsnrovers]

The peanut gallery is out in force today.

 

[nico]

Gunsrovers, I agree. If I wanted to be treated with condesention and arrogance by people who have never met me I'd go to DU

 

[jojosdad]

peacefuljeffery wrote:

A little supposition on my part, here:
You don't mind having to keep your guns 1000 feet or more away from any school, or anything that could remotely be called a school -- "it might save children's lives..."
You don't mind the fact that only the rich and/or famous are allowed to carry -- after all, what does a common street criminal want with you, anyway:

Well, yeah, these are suppositions.
I have a CCW - if I'm rich or famous nobody's told me yet, and oddly enough CA is one of the few states that I know of where you can legally carry in schools.

Sure we have problems with the blissninnies and antis here, but there are a lot of us still here trying to fight for our rights, and we welcome anyone who wants to come and join us.
That said - Fullof lead, if you end up in the northern sacramento valley, feel free to contact me.

 

[fulloflead]

"The peanut gallery is out in force today."

"Gunsrovers, I agree. If I wanted to be treated with condesention and arrogance by people who have never met me..."

You ain't kidding! I understand and share the fustration about freedoms but the SAME people who voiced their fustration think I need to justify to THEM why I'm planning to move? Frankly, that's MY business.

(And PeacefulJeffery can go jump in a pond with his nastiness and assumptions. I'm not going to dignify him with an answer.)

Thanks for those who helped and provided some info, for the link and the info about the hi-caps and registration in 60 days info. Is the registration fee per year or just once?

When you say tax on Autos, you mean regular auto pistols like a Glock? How often do you have to pay that?

 

[R.H. Lee]

Welcome to Californa, fulloflead (when ya get here). Pay no attention to the peanut gallery, most of whom have probably never even been here. We've got lots of guns and lots of shooters, plenty of ranges and back country.

 

[Hook686]

Today, 10:52 AM #1
fulloflead
Senior Member


wrote:

I may be moving to California inside the next year or two.

I guess the BIG question is, do I need to do anything special in order to bring my guns with me?

...

Thanks.

My advise is to go to http://www.packing.org/ and select California ... read all the stuff, especially the Dept. of Justice material. It really is a big variable depending upon the county and your need. It is possible, but not a sure thing. Read and be forewarned.

Hook686

 

[Mauserguy]

fulloflead, sorry if I was offensive.
Mauserguy

 

[Desertdog]

Where will you be moving to in CA? The reason I ask is that there should be about 2500 being tranferred here (Ridgecrest CA) in the BRAC process.
If transferring here, buy you a house now.

 

[Librarian]

I think 'autos' refers to 'automobiles'.

So far, registering your handguns is a one-time event.

But gosh, be prepared for the housing prices! I was out of CA for a decade or so, but I was back pretty regularly so I followed the prices. We sold our out of state house, and used the entire proceeds for a down payment on a 45 year old house. It's worse now. That same house, 12 years older, would sell for nearly 2 and a half times what we bought it for, and neither the neighborhood nor the house have changed.

 

[Gewehr98]

RileyMC forgets...

That some of us exodused that state when either Roberti-Roos or SB-23 became law, so that we didn't have to deed our semiauto rifles to the state and lease them back. So this particular member of the peanut gallery does know what goes on there, after being stationed at McClellan AFB for 10 years. I still remember Sports Authority trying to get me to register my ammunition purchases in their Citrus Heights store. Yeah, right.

Fulloflead, I left Sacramento in August of 1999 because several dozen of my personal firearms would have to be registered there. Registration is a misnomer, as I said before, a more accurate description is they're deeded to the state and leased back. That's exactly what it is, because you are not authorized to will or give the firearm to friends or family members - they belong to the state unless you sell them to a non-California buyer. Upon your demise the state gets them for destruction. Period.

Now, the one thing that stuck out in my mind most vividly was when I visited the DMV office for vehicle registration. There on the wall was one very large poster reminding the good citizens to register their handguns. As far as I remember, registration was just a one-time thing, unless you changed addresses. They want to know exactly where those handguns are at all times. It's $19.00 for each handgun being registered. Here's the form:

http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/forms/pdf/ab991frm.pdf

When the police showed up at my residence for an accident I had called in, they asked me where X and X and X guns were. It turns out, once the registration is filed, it comes up on the police cruiser's computer as a gun-owning residence.

Since leaving, I've had contact with friends who weren't able to leave, due to jobs, family, etc. Many have chosen to simply disobey the California gun laws. I feel sorry for them, because they're now ex-post-facto criminals. But something tells me that the California DOJ will NEVER get a handle on how many verboten firearms are in their territory. Just like the bullet-serialization and cartridge-marking legislature pending out there, folks will simply ignore it.
(And I'll set up shop in Reno selling unmarked bullets, myself. )

Your autoloader magazines of greater than 10 rounds capacity have to stay at the border. You're not allowed to import them, under penalty of DOJ prosecution.

Good luck, there are indeed some beautiful ranges out there. And my wife is bugging me to move back after I retire next year. I keep reminding her she's Wife #2 when she does that. About the only gun I'd trust the DOJ to leave me alone about would be a Shiloh-Sharps or Rolling Block. And I'd have to make sure they didn't have bayonet lugs...

 

[FNFiveSeven]

Just remember, *possession* of high capacity magazines is not restricted in California. Only transfer, sale, trade, loan and importation. Importation of a high capacity magazine is a misdemeanor.