primers for 357mag

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Going to load 357mag with 158gr cast bullets using 9.2gr of HS-6 for use in a rifle. What would be the best primer to use?
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Normally for a midrange .357 load I would say standard pistol primers, but HS-6 kind of likes mag pistol primers, so you may have better luck with them. It doesn't make a difference what they are fired in.
 
That is over the lead 158 data but under the jacketed 158 data on Hodgdons online reloading center.
 
Always mag in 357 cases. The volume of the case just seems to be over the line to where normal primers can't create a clean burn. I have not loaded anything other than hbwc with a standard primer that burnt clean.
 
First of all if you've not worked up the load i would start there and with a magnum primer using data for a cast bullet since that's the bullet your using. That load you stated is over on Hodgdon but under in the Lyman 49th manual. Lyman 49th list the use of a Magnum primer and 8.8gr min and max at 9.7gr for both 155gr and 160gr cast (linotype hard) cast bullets. If your going to a range just work up several loads of 5 each from bottom to top. Remember to check for pressure signs as you go.
 
For the life of me, I can't understand why Hodgdon would list a .357 Magnum load as Maximum, when the pressure listed is less than the SAAMI Maximum pressure level of a standard (not +P) .38 Special. Hard to take load data like that seriously.

Don
 
Hodgdon uses a Mag primer in anything called magnum, regardless of the powder. They do si to keep everything constant. A powder like HP 38 does not need a Mag primer ro burn correctly but it keeps all the data uniform. HS 6 also does not "need" a mag primer but does burn better with one.
 
I don't even have any magnum primers. I only buy small rifle for everything that uses a small primer.
 
Always mag in 357 cases.
I'll have to disagree with you. While some powders/loads require mag primers in .357 brass, many do not. I have .357 loads from light to full power, with powders from WST to 2400, all with standard primers.
 
As you can see, and I agree, while a magnum primers not required for HS-6 it does perform better and cleaner when a magnum primer is used. I use mostly CCI-550 primers with HS-6.


For the life of me, I can't understand why Hodgdon would list a .357 Magnum load as Maximum, when the pressure listed is less than the SAAMI Maximum pressure level of a standard (not +P) .38 Special. Hard to take load data like that seriously.

Don
From what I have read it's not the pressure limiting the HS-6 powder charge under a lead bullet in the .357 Magnum, it's leading. They are concerned excessive leading will happen. I don't agree and I have been annoyed for a long time about that data, especially since the data from Lyman is much stouter.

Hodgdon uses a Mag primer in anything called magnum, regardless of the powder. They do si to keep everything constant. A powder like HP 38 does not need a Mag primer ro burn correctly but it keeps all the data uniform. HS 6 also does not "need" a mag primer but does burn better with one.
I sent Hodgdon an email and asked them why all their data for the .357 Magnum was developed with a magnum primer and this is the reply. Since so many reloaders don't follow the data closely there are those who will use a magnum primer even if the powder doesn't require one just because it's a magnum cartridge. If they develop the data using a standard primer and a reloaded substitutes a magnum primer with a max powder charge it may cause an over pressure problem. (not a direct quote, just a paraphrase)
 
I don't even have any magnum primers. I only buy small rifle for everything that uses a small primer.
I agree they played it very safe with that particular
load. But Lyman does it too sometimes as well as others.
 
i use cci 500 (non-magnum) primers with bluedot powder in my 357 magnum loads. use whatever primer works best for you in your gun. there is nothing wrong with experimenting with different primers to tune up your handload. just back off the powder charge a bit when switching primers (or any other change).

murf
 
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