primers? stocked up?

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Don't hear much about the primer situation anymore, just wondering if everyone is stocked up:)
I see Wideners still has good prices on Wolf/Tula primers.:)
 
Quoting altitude 19 "What's "stocked up"? Isn't there a 10k limit on how many you can legally possess? "

Can you expound on that? Source? Is this a law or just urban legend ?
 
It's only illegal if you get caught. Although I seriously doubt there is a 10k limit on primers you can legally posess.
 
Prices in my neck of the woods are finally coming down and everything is in stock...all brands. I have about 16K on the shelf now. I've never heard about any laws and have even bought more than 10K at a time.

kj
 
Nothing at the federal level, but state and local laws or fire codes may limit the quantity and place requirements on how they're stored.

I should probably do some research in my area, though. I've got about 10K in various pistol sizes and brands, and just ordered another 14K mix of SPP, LPP and 5.56 military.
 
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I would like to get some more, but hoping the price will come down a little. Is that just wishful thinking? They are about $40 a thousand locally.
 
Beartooth bullets cites the National Fire Protection Association:
http://www.beartoothbullets.com/tech_notes/archive_tech_notes.htm/60

Origin and Development of NFPA 495

This code was originally issued in 1912 as the Suggested State Law to Regulate the Manufacture, Storage, Sale and Use of Explosives. The second edition was issued in 1941 by the Committee on laws and Ordinance and retitled Suggested Explosives Ordinance for Cities. Later, the document number NFPA 495L was designated.

After being assigned to the Committee on Chemicals and Explosives, a new edition was issued in 1959. This was retitled as the Code for the Manufacture, Transportation, Storage, and Use of Explosives and Blasting Agents and redesigned as NFPA 495.

Following reorganization of the committee in 1960, the responsibility for amendments to NFPA 495 was assigned to the Sectional Committee on Explosives. This committee reported to the Correlating Committee on Chemicals and Explosives. Revised editions were issued in 1962, 1965, 1967, 1968, 1969 and 1970. A new edition was issued in 1972 with the document title revised to code for the Manufacture, Transportation, Storage, and Use of Explosive Materials. A subsequent edition followed in 1973.

Following the issuance of the 1973 edition, the Sectional Committee on Explosives was redesignated as a Technical Committee. In 1976, the committee began a detailed review intended to amend requirements so that there were no conflicts with the regulations promulgated by the various federal agencies concerned with explosive materials (Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, US Mine Safety and Health Administration, US Department of Transportation, etc.) This effort resulted in the 1982 edition, which was subsequently followed by a new edition in 1985. In 1990, the document was again revised and included the title being changed to the Explosive Materials Code. The latest edition, issued in 1996, incorporates change in the classification of explosives to conform with recent U.S. Department of Transportation ÒHazardous Materials RegulationsÓ which in turn are based on United Nations Recommendations on the Transport of Dangerous Goods. The 1996 edition also includes technical and editorial amendments.

Chapter 11:

11-5 Small Arms Primers

11-5.1 Small arms primers shall be transported or stored in containers approved by the US Department of Transportation.

11-5.2 Transportation of small arms primers shall comply with US Department of Transportation Regulations.

11-5.3 No more than 25,000 small arms primers may be transported in a private vehicle.

11-5.4 No more than 10,000 small arms primers may be stored in residences. [my emphasis]

11-5.5 No more than 10,000 small arms primers may be displayed in commercial establishments.

11-5.6 Commercial stocks of small arms primers shall be stored as follows:
 
11-5.4 No more than 10,000 small arms primers may be stored in residences.

The operative word there being "residence". So you can keep 10,000 in your residence (for your weekly reloading needs) and 200 million more in the garden shed.

The idea is that they don't want any firemen entering your home to pull occupants to safety and getting killed when your primer stash goes up. No fireman in America would enter a garden shed. They'd all let them burn to the ground.
 
Went to the fun store the other day for primers.
I asked for SPP, the clerk asked "What brand?"
The stores are stocked again, so I don't have to.
 
.... so that means I'm still able to keep the 75 lbs. of various powders in the house, if I put more than the 10,000 primers in the garden shed? Man this is easy to rectumfy!
 
Ditto. Along with my forty pounds or so of various powders......

Heck, I'm so far outside town, if my DWMH burns, it'll be a smoking frame by the time FD gets here anyways...... The neighbors at least will enjoy a snazzy 'fireworks' show........ :eek:
 
NFPA= National Fire Protection Association. It is not a government entity. It works like SAMMI, it just issues suggestions that are not law, but guidelines.
 
There are limits on both primers and powder (stored in the home) in MN. I've read the specific statutes before, but don't have time to find them now. I do remember that the powder limitation includes some rediculous thing about a box, made of wood, with one in. thick sides needed to store more than a certain amount of propellant. Maybe when I get back from church I'll return to the thread and look up the statutes.

ETA: And I'm back. Here are the pertinent MN statutes:
https://www.revisor.mn.gov/rules/?id=7500.3500
https://www.revisor.mn.gov/rules/?id=7500.3600

Plain as day in the MN statutes. Not more than 10,000 primers. Anything over 20lbs. of powder has to be in a box the likes of which I have never seen (1 in. thick).
 
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