PSA no longer selling ARs with pistol braces

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Well, now we know where he stands. Perfectly fine with more senseless federal regulation and no understanding of broader consequences (unintended or otherwise) ... or humor.

Probably okay with this, too.
On the FAQ for the ATF's efile page ( https://eforms-form1.atf.gov/faq ) in the brace info.

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Q. If I am the registered owner of a NFA item, can someone else shoot my item in my presence?
No. Only Responsible Person(s) listed on the approved registration may have physical or constructive possession of the NFA item.

This has been discussed in other threads and what the FAQ's say totally contradicts what the actual law states. While we need confirmation on this, it has been posted on other forums that the ATF made a mistake when updating the FAQ's according to emails that have been posted.
 
Well, now we know where he stands. Perfectly fine with more senseless federal regulation and no understanding of broader consequences (unintended or otherwise) ... or humor.
Sadly, you confuse understanding of a regulation with agreement. That sir, is stupid.;)
Not for one minute do I agree with any federal law regarding restrictions on our Second Amendment rights.
You have no valid argument, so your only recourse is a pathetic attempt to paint me as someone who agrees with ATF. Shame on you.



Probably okay with this, too.
On the FAQ for the ATF's efile page ( https://eforms-form1.atf.gov/faq ) in the brace info.

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Q. If I am the registered owner of a NFA item, can someone else shoot my item in my presence?
No. Only Responsible Person(s) listed on the approved registration may have physical or constructive possession of the NFA item.
No I'm not okay with that FAQ answer and and posted about it yesterday:https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...rcement-schedules.908788/page-6#post-12530619
 
This has been discussed in other threads and what the FAQ's say totally contradicts what the actual law states. While we need confirmation on this, it has been posted on other forums that the ATF made a mistake when updating the FAQ's according to emails that have been posted.
He is only trying to smear me by insinuating that I agree with ATF.


The eForms FAQ he copied and pasted was removed earlier today. :rofl: He brings weak sauce.
 
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Sadly, you confuse understanding of a regulation with agreement. That sir, is stupid.;)
Not for one minute do I agree with any federal law regarding restrictions on our Second Amendment rights.
You have no valid argument, so your only recourse is a pathetic attempt to paint me as someone who agrees with ATF. Shame on you.
You say nothing indicating your disagreement with the latest bureau stupidity. Yet what you do say is consistently said in a patronizing, demeaning, derisive and name-calling manner.
 
You say nothing indicating your disagreement with the latest bureau stupidity.
Yet no where have I written that I agree with ATF's policies or regulations have I? Good grief man, I post facts and explanations and I'm not going to waste my life whining. Myself and others have spent the last few weeks dispelling myths, half truths, click bait videos and blatant falsehoods about what the rule means, what it actually contains and how to remain a law abiding citizen.

Meanwhile you give us gems like "Some molded plastic and strips of velcro.".......which is tripe. Has nothing to do with nothing. You object to my tone, I object to tripe.
All you've done is post erroneous information of zero value. You won't bother to actually read the rule, you'll just post snippets of nonsense, thinking you add to the discussion and leave your fellow gun owners better off than they were yesterday. Posting OMG OMG ATF R BAD! does nothing. We KNOW ATF is bad, we KNOW ATF makes hasty rules, we KNOW ATF has a history of thuggery. You are more concerned with Bad Tom hurting your feelings than with getting your facts straight.




Yet what you do say is consistently said in a patronizing, demeaning, derisive and name-calling manner.
You feel that way because you know what I wrote is correct and valid and it makes you feel bad. There's a way to fix that.......don't post nonsense like this:
Old Dog said: "Some molded plastic and strips of velcro. Illegal now under federal law (with no legislative action) Is it because I'm gettin' old, or am I just confused? "
1. What an arm brace or shoulder stock is made of has no bearing on anything.
2. An arm brace by itself is not illegal now, nor will it be in the future.
3. I don't know your age, as it would not matter.
4. You "are confused" because your statement isn't true.

If you disagree with what I've written, than present a cogent argument. But if you have none, your only option is to complain that I make you feel sad.
 
We have the constitutional right of assembly, but can still be charged a fee for a permit to assemble. We have the constitutional right to marry, but can still be charged a fee for a marriage license.

While I personally agree with both you and armybrat that a fundamental constitutional right should not be taxed, I don't think that SCOTUS would strike down the NFA on those grounds, nor would they strike down the fees involved with concealed carry permits.

I was going to bring up permits but you beat me to it. Anyone can tax just about anything they want related to your RKBA.
 
Sadly, you confuse understanding of a regulation with agreement. That sir, is stupid.;)
Not for one minute do I agree with any federal law regarding restrictions on our Second Amendment rights.
You have no valid argument, so your only recourse is a pathetic attempt to paint me as someone who agrees with ATF. Shame on you.




No I'm not okay with that FAQ answer and and posted about it yesterday:https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...rcement-schedules.908788/page-6#post-12530619


How does one hold an FFL and be in disagreement with the ATF and their regulations? Do you not follow their guidance and regulations when you conduct your/their business?

I'm sure there are many dealers thinking about throwing in the towel because of these back forth so called interpretations by the ATF. That's probably the administrations game plan.
 
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How does one hold an FFL and be in disagreement with the ATF and their regulations? Do you not follow their guidance and regulations when you conduct your/their business?

I'll answer that as a former FFL holder. It is like anything else in life. We don't always agree with laws but we still must abide by them if we do not want to get caught up in the justice system. And when it comes to any type of license, we must abide by the rules/laws if we want to keep that license.

A FFL holder must follow the laws if they want to stay in business. Which is no different than say following all traffic laws if one want to keep their driver's license.
 
I'll answer that as a former FFL holder. It is like anything else in life. We don't always agree with laws but we still must abide by them if we do not want to get caught up in the justice system. And when it comes to any type of license, we must abide by the rules/laws if we want to keep that license.

A FFL holder must follow the laws if they want to stay in business. Which is no different than say following all traffic laws if one want to keep their driver's license.

Having a drivers license and being able to drive to work is a bit different than doing the ATF's bidding for profit. I can't charge anyone when I get into my vehicle and drive to work.
 
Having a drivers license and being able to drive to work is a bit different than doing the ATF's bidding for profit. I can't charge anyone when I get into my vehicle and drive to work.

Well let me try again then. Having a FFL license is a lot like having a liquor license or even a medical license. If you don't follow the rules then you lose said license and also lose your livelihood. It is not about doing anyone else's bidding but about following the rules/laws to maintain your license and livelihood.
 
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