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BHP FAN said:
not very well, and that includes the ''greater issues at hand''. When you allow people to lump semi-autos with machine guns you end up with ''assault rifle'' bans.
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You do understand that to the anti anything that shoots a bullet out of a barrel is an assault rifle. If we used some acronym for FA intermediate cartridge carbines FAICC they'd just come up with their own term that best serves their needs.

Hell blame Hitler if you're gonna blame anyone for the misuse of the catchy term.

The Russians were using the word Avtomat long before WWII to describe this type rifle.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fedorov_Avtomat




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Exactly. I though this was about Palmetto State Armory when I clicked on the thread
 
I had a PSA test for my prostate, but it's not the same thing. Words have meaning, and that gives them power.
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But since you provided context, no one was confused. Words need context, which gives them meaning, to give them power. :rolleyes:
 
Context, as Apache said a long ways back. If you're out hunting grouse on the moors and someone is talking about their gun, it's safe to assume they don't mean a self-propelled howitzer. Similarly, if some old document references th clip for a Kalashnikov rifle, you can be pretty sure that they are referring to what most people nowadays call a magazine. And if someone says 9 mil to reference the size of a pistol, it isn't technically accurate, but you know what they mean. Probably.

And while we are at it, revolvers are a kind of pistol. Except the ones that are rifles or grenade launchers or cannon(s!)
 
''But since you provided context, no one was confused. Words need context, which gives them meaning, to give them power...''

exactly. Listen, you kids can call magazines clips all day if you want to, it only hurts you. When you allow the antis to ''blur'' the meaning and definitions of words, you also allow them to make them mean anything they want them to. I'm not going to be around long enough to care, but you guys are going to have to live in that world.
 
BHP FAN said:
''But since you provided context, no one was confused. Words need context, which gives them meaning, to give them power...''

exactly. Listen, you kids can call magazines clips all day if you want to, it only hurts you. When you allow the antis to ''blur'' the meaning and definitions of words, you also allow them to make them mean anything they want them to. I'm not going to be around long enough to care, but you guys are going to have to live in that world.
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So the entire gun control push we see today can be laid squarely at the feet of folks using the word clip in lieu of magazine ...


Mmmmmkay

Question : do/did gun owners refer to Winchester black talon loads as cop killer bullets. Who coined that term? Us or the anti's.




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There's a difference between using a term that is intentionally loaded and meant to incite an emotional response in the listener ("assault rifle") versus using terms that are technically incorrect but as a matter of practice, interchangeable (clip vs mag, mil vs mm, gun vs small arms, whatever).

Also, don't ever pull the "you kids" routine. As long as we are talking about words and their meaning and effective communication, we may as well point out that writing something like that only serves to disrespect the individuals with whom you are engaging in conversation, as well as make you come off as an old curmudgeon. And for the record I am not implying that you are, I am just saying your words may lead your audience to infer such things.
 
Fire Moose said:
Quick question, what's the "ar" stand for in ar-15?
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Sure as hell doesn't stand for Fusil Automatique Léger, I can tell you that.


If we're going to pick nits, why not stop calling metallic centerfire ammunition "Bullets"?

The correct term is "Cartridges". The bullet is the piece that comes out of the barrel.

In the meantime, I'm going to mack my jammy nine and let the clips and bullets fly, yo.
 
:evil:This has been a fun thread, so I'll add to it, I try not to get bentout of shape because of terminology people use most just go by what they see on TV anyways, but if someones really anal about words I like to playwith them, me and my brother shoot with some ex Leo,s sometimes and because he knows how much it bothers them my brother always says clips when talking about his glock mags,( I know it's mean) and when someone talks about nine millimeter I just say I don't know much about them I only carry real calibers that can actually do damage..
 
"I wonder if the Germans who invented the stripper clip use different words for clips and magazines?"

Clip = "ladestreifen" (loading strips), magazine = "magazin"
 
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I'll call it Duck tape if I want to. It is.
 
And I actually spent time in this near-apocalyptic age reading this thread. It's like watching a train wreck......just couldn't tear myself away from the screen. NOW I've even posted in the same thread.:eek:
 
people can call duct tape duck tape if they want to, and cartridges ''bullets'', and yes, even magazines ''clips'', and on further reflection, in this land of free speech, I guess I'm glad you can, and do. It gives the rest of us a quick reference point as to the depth of your knowledge.
 
Re: "Magazines" vs. "Clips"

Who cares? Allow me to introduce you to what real men use instead:


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I've heard enough members of our special forces community use the phrase "9mil" to generically refer to fluffy, the pet Beretta or Sig or Glock, to have picked up the slang myself.

Call me a philistine. Just don't refer to your 9mm as a ".354"...
 
I prefer the full moon clips myself, for my 1917 S&W, but I take your meaning. I let this whole thing bother me, but it's just ''online'' thought, stream of conciousness stuff. I think it's a free country. Call your stuff whatever you want.
 
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