Ptr-91 jams with magtech ammo?

[Mt.Traverse]

Crazy differences between individual rifles. I certainly read about British RG cycling great, as in your rifle. No luck in mine.

Does your rifle have surplus bolt carrier, or a new manufacture? Mine is surplus, 9/83. Bought my rifle in Dec. 2008. I have looked at rifles in the stores these days and now they have new manufacture. Anyone know if that would make a difference?

 

[SoCalShooter]

I think it sucks that the majority of surplus does not work in that rifle my friends CETME eats everything thrown into it.

My rifle has a surplus bolt carrier 8/61 and I bought mine in 2k8 also. THe only stuff I have found that has run through it was the Chinese ball amo, the german stuff and SA stuff just wont seem to run.

 

[Mt.Traverse]

PTR ammo

Have you tried the S&B czech surplus. .45cents a round at Sportsman's Guide. Cheapest I can find, accurate and cycles great. SoCo Ammo Co. is great as well. Of course $1.47 Hornady and .91 cent Winchester and Remington work great also, but I'm just killing paper and trying not to kill my budget.

And Yes! I agree it sucks. PTR should advertise their aversion to surplus ammo. I had to ask twice, phone and email, then got form letter reply, and their form letter was almost rude. God forbid you should put surplus ammo in their precision target rifle, ha. It's a great platform, but what a bummer a German "type" rifle not cycle German surplus.

The worst part is the inconsistancy from rifle to rifle. Some rifles do this others that, f***ing bummer. I read everything I could before purchase. I never imagined having ammo issues from what I've read. Some folks have a rifle that will eat anything. Seems like there are not too many of us with the issue, few enough PTR is not wiling to look at the issue too deeply.

I have to assume the lower tolerances of the CETME allow it to cycle, less friction??? Does PTR have just too tight a chamber, even with flutes, for the lower powered rounds to move the carrier? And as I've said in other posts, clean or very dirty, does not effect the ability to eject rounds.

Anyone have any insight? I'd love to have it eject the 300plus rounds of RD Green and Portugees I have sitting around.

 

[lipadj46]

Have you tried the S&B czech surplus. .45cents a round at Sportsman's Guide.

You mean the corrosive stuff in the pale blue boxes? I can't believe it is selling for that much and I would never pay it.

 

[Mt.Traverse]

S&B

Yep that's the stuff.

Price is the price today. Guess what? your house isn't worth what it was last month and will be worth less next month. Price is the value the day you buy and sell. Yesterday is gone.

On a more receptive note,

What do you ammo do you shoot?

What do you pay and where do you get it?

OK so you reload, you're cool. Doesn't help me or other looking for the best deal in todays market.

Care to offer any helpful advice.

 

[lipadj46]

Care to offer any helpful advice.

Yes: This too shall pass...

Patience young grasshopper supply is coming demand will fall as will prices. I had some forsight and bought a couple years supply before the election. I chuckle because that ammo was a step above Indian ammo (as far as desireability goes, it is safe to shoot) and could only be sold by deception before the election. I just sold 240 rounds of 7.62 Nato on GB for $175 shipped so look around and pay a little more for good ammo.

In the mean time while waiting buy a couple battle packs of this:

PPUM80BP Prvi 200rnd GREEN BATTLE PACKS 308 145gr M80 ammo $129.00/200

Here:
http://www.wideners.com/itemview.cfm?dir=18|830|848

Again I don't see how corrosive unreloadable ammo that was selling for $0.15 per round in November is a good deal at today's prices but feel free to feed those getting rich off of our fear and impatience.

 

[SoCalShooter]

Apparently the CETME flutes are cut deeper and the tolerances seem to me more AK'ish either way I went with it to the range and it worked great today, went through a box of American Eagle and a box of winchester white box. All of it worked great. Rifle was cleaned very very very thouroughly.

 

[ocharry]

G3,,i read you post about first round in not firing

If you ride the bolt down the rollers will not lock up and so the bolt is not closed and the gun will not fire,,,the hammer will drop but not hit the primmer with enough force to fire the round

from bolt open,,,full mag in place,,slap the bolt handle and let the spring take it home,,that is the way the were designed to work,,,and i bet your first round in failures will stop

these main battle rifles will rock and roll,,,,and full auto is a hoot

my .02

ocharry

 

[Slamfire]

Apparently the CETME flutes are cut deeper

I believe this is true. I have picked up brass fired in HK91's and the flutes are deeper than the PTR 91.

I also believe this is because of all the moaning by reloaders who purchased the first PTR91's. If you search old threads you find the first PTR91's used the military chamber specifications, including flute depth.

Posters just whined about how those deep flutes just ruined their brass. So PTR changed things.

Now posters are upset because their rifles won't function with everything.

What's a manufacturer to do? :banghead: