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purchasing advice on a 30-06 hunting rifle...

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by bhhacker, May 30, 2012.

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  1. Smith357

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    I'm not selling it, I was just pointing out that there are so many nice used rifles out there many come with good glass for less than a budget bargain brand.

    Here is a 03a3 that was had for $400 with scope.
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    An FN Comercial Mauser with scope was $600
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    Or for under $300 you can get a Remington 742 7600. I had a little fun with this 742. :)
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    Also used Browning BARs are right around $600
     
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  2. SleazyRider

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    By "handled," do you mean you shot it? I, too, am interested this rifle and I'd like to hear your assessment of it. It seems like a lot of gun for the money, and I'm curious if the Ruger trigger is on par with the Accutrigger. I was, after all, eyeballin' the Marlin XL7 and Savage Axis before this one came along.
     
  3. Fremmer

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    In that climate you might consider a stainless steel rifle with a synthetic stock.
     
  4. Kachok

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    From personal experience I can highly recommend Savage and Tikka, and give you a word of caution about Remington and Winchester. All half dozen of my Savages and my Tikka have provided me exceptional performance and flawless reliability. I happen to own a Savage 111 30-06 that I recently bought for $386 and it easily shoots 3/4 MOA, and yes that is a basic package gun with a cheap Bushnell Sportsman scope. I have owned three Remington rifles none of which were impressive, one was a factory defect (would not chamber a round), one rusted like it was bathed in saltwater daily dispute regular cleaning and oiling, and one that had jamming issues and less then stellar accuracy. My one Winchester 70 was one of the infamous "pumpkin batch" I bought new in the 90s needless to say I was less then thrilled with 16 MOA accuracy (no not joking), though I understand that they have vastly improved since then.
    While I do not own one I have been told that the new Weatherby Vanguard and TC Venture are exceptional rifles in their budget price range, I would not hesitate to purchase one any more then I would another Savage or Tikka. Find whichever fits you best, I am a small shooter and find the Tikka to have the best fit.
    30-06 is a fantastic versatile caliber, 150-165gr bullets for deer sized game, 180-200gr for elk/moose and if you handload there is a good variety of super heavy 220-250gr bullets that will handle anything in North America, I want to get some 240gr Weldcores, ultra heavy, high SD, controlled expansion, bonded bullet.
     
  5. marinetowgunner

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    I throw my vote in for a tikka t-3 lite (which is the synthetic version) or the hunter if you like wood.
     
  6. wwace

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    For $600 I would get a used Ruger 77 Stainless with the boat paddle stock and a decent scope. I have used this combo in Alaska for about 20 years with excellent results. Just look on Gunbroker, they are often under $500 w scope.
     
  7. Skyshot

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    It's kinda funny reading these posts where someone say's brand X is junk and brand Y is the way to go. If your going to get a bolt gun, any of the mentioned brands will serve you well. You can always get one that has some issues and I don't care what brand it is. I would tell you to buy the rifle that fits you the best. Check as many out as you can and shoulder them and see how they point and feel and remember about heavy clothing you have on in winter. I had a friend who bought a rifle that he bragged about all year, and it was a nice rifle for sure, but he went on a hunt in very cold conditions and had on extra layers and was still hunting in some steep terrain and nice buck appeared but he was unable to shoulder his rifle to make the shot because of the extra clothing he had on. Get what you like the best and forget about all these opinions.
     
  8. Kachok

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    Yeah I will call it how I see it, if brand X is head and shoulders better then brand Y I will point that out. Remington is 0-3 for quality rifles in my personal experience :( and Savage is 6-0 Night and day difference, so yeah I will say without a shadow of a doubt that as of right now that class for class, dollar for dollar Savage walks all over Remington, and my one Tikka is so much better then my Model 70 that to compare them is laughable, that crappy boomstick does not deserve to be called "rifle" in the presence of my T3 :) Again to be fair that was nearly 20 years ago and when the company was falling apart.
     
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    30/06 hunting rifle

    bhhacker: You have been given a lot of good advice. But I can`t agree with you more choseing a 30/06, it is one of my all time favorites. I don`t belive I have ever been in a store that sold ammo that didn`t sell 30/06, 30/30, 22LR, and 12 gauge shells. I guess I would recomend holding and pointing as maney as possible. But for your price range a Savage 111 or 110 would hard to beat. My Son and I have bought several Savages over the years, both new and used, but more used and have never have had a problem with any of them, and i can`t remember any body I know who has had a problem with a savage. We do not have a Savage rifle that won`t shoot under and inch at a hundred yds. And as you can see we are Savage diehard fans. My Son prefers the 308 and for me it is the 30/06 hands down. I never got to hunt Alaska so I envey you, I got to old and health problems raised it`s ugly head. So live out my dreams for me. GOOD LUCK TO YOU: ken
     
  10. Skyshot

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    That's to bad for you dude! Maybe you don't know enough to pick out the best pup in a litter. Love my Savages also but as far as quality goes they aren't in the same zip code as a good Model 700 or Model 70.
     
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    find the lightest 3006 stainless/synthetic you can find.put a pachmeyer magnuum decelertor pad on it and a gentry muzzle break.remember,you will also be carrying a pack.start getting in shape
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    and get a good water filter.
     
  12. Kachok

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    Again my experiences, not saying everyone will get the same results, but I recently tried to warn a friend away from a new Remington, he ignored me, and after months of headache and a factory rebuild it still will not function properly. I would not consider another new Rem 700 if they were half the price of a comparable Savage, much less pay MORE for one, in my book the Savage is in a completely higher class for reliability and accuracy, though I will admit that my NIB Rem 700 CDL was much prettier then any Savage I have ever seen, shame it would not shoot at all :(
    Tikka is a different animal you cannot really compare it to a Rem or Win, it is a smaller lighter rifle, I personally love it because of the fantastic ergonomics for small shooters (like me) No it won't out shoot my Savages but it does shoot cheap bulk factory fodder .75" and handloads a hair tighter, when are you ever going to be pushing the limits of that kind of accuracy in the field? I have hunted for over a quarter century now and have yet to see the need for accuracy beyond that, and to that point even a 2MOA rifle exceeds the real world requirement for the vast majority of hunters so in fact my Rem 700s were in fact "accurate enough" but for my own piece of mind I prefer rifles that I can cloverleaf or one hole all day.
     
  13. .45Guy

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    1961 vintage model 70 Featherweight. Sticker was 200 under your budget.


    P.S. Thanks for the advice on Berger VLDs Kachok! I have been quite impressed with their performance.
     

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    Anytime ;)
     
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    I bought a Savage 111 FCNS. It's really been a great rifle. It's the first one I've owned where I can get holes to overlap at 100 yards using a 3-9x40mm Burris FFII scope.

    I have two complaints about the rifle:

    1. I wish I would have bought a wood stock version instead of the Accustock.... nothing wrong with what I have, but I just like wood.

    2. I thought I wanted a box magazine gun, but I really do miss a trap door on the bottom.

    I'm actually thinking about selling the rifle only to buy one with the options I want. If I do, I was thinking about selling before the season and buying after the season and just make due with my Winchester 94 and Handi Rifle this season.
     
  16. Kachok

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    What caliber BBQ? I am always keeping an eye out for my next toy and Savages top my list for sure. Still kicking myself for selling my Savage 270 even if it was to a good friend who fell madly in love with it.
     
  17. CHALK22

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    BBQ, I might be interested in that as well, depending on caliber. Originally that was exactly what I had in mind.....till I held one. Then I held a 114 American Classic right after it, and that clouded my decision for a bit......now I am kinda leaning towards the Weatherby Vanguard S2 Sporter....decisions, decisions....Either way, shoot me a PM with what you might want to get out of it, if you would like.
     
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    I'd buy a Rem 770 at WallyWorld for $300 with a scope and call it good. Its not a target rifle, its a dinner bell.
     
  19. Mr. T

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    I own a Remington Model 700 that I absolutely love, but I have also heard very good reviews for the Savage Models that the OP listed. If it matches your price point, from everything I've read and heard, I don't think you could go wrong with the Savage models you mentioned.
     
  20. Kachok

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    OMGWTFBBQ!!!! Never touch a 770, and if you do by accident make sure you wash your hands thourghly before you rub off any 770 on anything else. That is hands down without a doubt the WORST bolt rifle currently on the US market. Yeah have been critical of Remington since they sold out to CCM, so don't take my word for it, ask the hardcore Remington fans most of them will tell you the same thing, those are garbage. I would rather go hunting with a Mosin Nagant no kidding! Spend the few extra bucks on a Weatherby Vanguard, Savage 110, TC Venture, heck if money is THAT tight where you cannot afford any more money get an ATR or Axis at your local Walmart for $249, both are noticeably better then the 770 in every measurable way.
     
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    What's so bad about a Rem 770 vs. other low priced options? Can your rifle beat up my rifle? ROFL
     
  22. Kachok

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    Yes my rifle can beat up on your rifle LOL the 770 is known for lackluster accuracy 1.5-2 moa is still plenty enough for normal hunting situations but why when Savages are so inexpensive, and they deliver fantastic accuracy straight out of the box. I just bought a new Savage 30-06 scoped combo NIB for $386 you think in my wildest dream I would have skimped 80 bucks for a 770 NO WAY! The 111 has a better barrel, better steel, better stock , better trigger, better finnish No contest in my book. As with all of my Savage bolt guns my new 06 shoots well below moa even with the el-chepo package scope.
    I do not like budget Remington steel/finish, you cannot stop them from rusting down here on the Gulf Coast, I bought a Rem 700 ADL and it was rusting like it was bathed in salt water despite being regularly cleaned and oiled like all my rifles. No such issues with any of the other rifles that I have owned, including my pre-CCM Remingtons.
    Remington DOES offer some rifles that will run neck and neck with the Savage rifles, and they do have better stocks and finishes, but they are alot more money so they never really tempt me at all, but if I did find an XCR on clearance that might make me give them another try.
     
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