Qs about 1911 Long Slide 6"

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Lately, I've been thinking about getting a 6" barrel 1911, either one of the "Long Slide" versions, or a GM with a 6" barrel fitted to it. Search didn't turn up anything useful, so I'm starting a new thread.

I'm looking for any experience had with such a pistol, including ported barrels. My intended use would be for plinking and HD/SD. Does the longer barrel affect accuracy, balance, reliability etc.?

Thanks in advance.
 
Now that you mention it, I've also toyed with the idea. Would there be any aftermarket support for a 6", or is it "manufacturer only" support?

Someone, anyone?
 
A buddy has a 6" STI chambered for 45 super that just rocks. What I don't like about it is that mags are proprietary (double stack) & there are not a lot of holsters out there to fit it.
Other than those two things, it's awesome - longer sight radius, natural pointer and a lot of cool going for it :cool:
 
Hello. My personal hands-on experience with 1911 longslides is limited to primarily two pistols. One is an STI Trojan chambered in 9mm. The other is a Caspian frame/slide "home build in .45 ACP.

Though the extra inch of slide/bbl doesn't seem much by the sound of it or on paper, to me it makes the guns seem considerably larger than expected. That said, even though probably not the "best" size for most folks' intended uses, the longslide is my favorite version of the 1911 pattern pistol.

I have read the accounts of other folks saying that the longslide offers less felt recoil to just the opposite; they "kick" more. Who is telling the truth? I think that both are because felt recoil is so subjective. In .45 ACP, I note no real difference in felt recoil from my longslide Caspian compared to other all-steel 5" 1911-type pistols. In 9mm, the longslide offers very little felt recoil with very warm loads but I think this is a function of the gun's weight compared to many 9mm pistols, which are usually smaller and lighter. (I am considering building or buying a 5" 9mm 1911-pattern pistol in the near future.)

Using a 17-lb conventional recoil spring in my longslide .45 seems to work just fine with loads ranging from a handloaded 200-gr. CSWC at about 880 ft/sec from the 6" bbl to 230-gr. JHP's in the 950 ft/sec range. I note no "slowness" or "sluggishness" in the slide movement. There seems to be maybe less muzzle flip than my 5" pistols, but if this is the case, it's close. I really cannot say for positive. To me the 5" steel 1911 and the 6" recoil about the same.

I have not found the 6" to be more mechanically accurate than a 5", providing both are built to the same level of close fitting and so forth. I definitely do find that the longer sight radius combined with my getting-older-every-day eyes allows me to better shoot the 6" gun with regard to accuracy.

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I honestly doubt that I'm shooting anywhere close to this longslide Caspian's mechanical accuracy limits. These groups are certainly not as nice as some shooters can get, but I find it easier to obtain them with the 6" gun than its 5" mate.

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These two Caspian 1911's have almost exactly the same features, the triggers being the primary differences. The main difference is the extra inch of bbl and slide. Both group better than I can and I honestly cannot tell much if any felt recoil reduction in the longslide vs the 5". To me, the 6" remains one of the most elegant and best looking versions of Mr. Browning's famous design.

Were I going to get a 1911-pattern handgun for use that might include carry, be it open or concealed as well as range visits and maybe some handgun hunting of critters, I'd probably go with the 5" gun first...BUT if I liked the 1911 design of pistol and decided to add more, the longslide would be on my short list, probably at the top.

Both of these pistols have proven reliable in the extreme and so has my 6" STI Trojan in 9mm.

Best and good luck.
 
Stephen, VERY informative post! Thanks! Though, I do have one more question.....if it were going to be a "first" 1911 and not necissarily for carry purpose, would you recommend getting the 6" or 5" first, if you have a slight leaning towards the 6" (if only just for looks)?
 
Hello, sir, and thank you for the kind words. I am glad that the post was of service. For my first 1911, I would purchase a 5" all-steel pistol. This original size is probably the most popular version of the gun and it may very well be that such could be the case for you. Depending upon the price range you find yourself checking, I'd go with the Springfield Mil-Spec at the lower end of the cost envelope to the STI Trojan at around a thousand plus or minus, depending upon where you find it to the STI Legacy at $1700 to $1900. Frankly, for a first 1911, I'd go with the Mil-Spec, but this decision is obviously yours.

If you wind up not caring for the 1911 platform, you can definitely move the SA Mil Spec and will not have spent as much as with the other models. It also lends itself very well to "upgrades" if desired. That said, many folks find it quite to their liking as it comes from the factory.

I have had exceptionally good luck with the Mil-Spec and it groups very nicely, better than I can shoot and has shown excellent reliability with a wide variety of bullet styles...as in zero malfunctions in over 4K shots.

Even if the 5" Mil-Spec is not your cup of tea, you will find a much wider selection and variation in the 5" guns than the 6" pistols and generally speaking, for less money.

If you truly want a 6" for the first 1911, my personal choice would be the STI Trojan in your choice of available calibers offered by STI. I have shot two 6" guns in 9mm and they group very very nicely. The 5" Trojan .45 and .38 Super group extremely well, too.

You can see them and the other STI pistols here:

www.stiguns.com

Best.
 
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