Question for Police or dispatchers about "tagging"

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For those of you in states where concealed carry is allowed.

As a LEO or Dispatcher, is it common practice for "tagging" a person's name or D.L. when it is determined that the individual holds a concealed carry permit.
For instance, as a paramedic in my city I have the ability to "tag" an address where other than normal circumstances may be present, i.e. a diabetic who fights when his sugar gets low, an obese person who will require additional lifting assistance, gang related issues etc....

After being tagged by myself this information is then included in further dispatch tickets and the information is acted upon automatically within the framework I have provided..

I ask this because if an individual provides their permit or acknowledges the presence of a weapon, agencies could then "tag" the individual.

Just curious? Noticed a person on another forum who stated he provided it once during a traffic stop and then when stopped again he was told to put it away (sic).
 
I was keeping it to the firearms question. I can tell you from the dispatch tickets that I have read all sorts of other stuff can be included.

Being from Illinois, I can only speculate as to what may be provided in areas with CCW. Were Illinois to have CCW, I can say with relative certainty that my community would "tag" those individuals who may be in the legal possession of a weapon on their person. I have been informed many times that I am entering a house that has weapons inside, (outside the reason for the request for our services). It has always kind of irritated me as it seems to inherently convey danger. For good reason I would rather be notified as to the presence of dogs and whether they are restrained or not... Dogs absolutely sense stress and it triggers protective instincts that can make our jobs hard.
 
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Most cops going to an address of a disturbance or possible suicide call would love to know if firearms are known to be on that location.Just because a person has never been convicted of a crime,it is not entirely impossible for that person to have a meltdown down the road.Some police dispatch software have the ability to add lawful gun ownership,some don't.
I have been an honest person and a fairly sane one for almost 62 years,but one never knows what can happen.Having this info can sometimes help an officer to survive or better prepare for that call.
 
My Leos know we are a armed house. Shoud the call ever goes to them to come help us... they know ahead of time what to spect.

Now if a Para has to secure my weapon, I expect it back when it's over. See another thread on this forum about it.
 
pbearberry that is true.

I am all for the protection of an officers life. Sometimes I think it might predispose the officers though and make them complacent at some level? Is it better not to know and just assume that everyone has a weapon, (which I am sure they as we do)?

Please understand that I am not assuming anything here and am truely curious. I am a firefighter/paramedic and that is all.

It is interesting that software is available out there for this.
 
Now if a Para has to secure my weapon, I expect it back when it's over. See another thread on this forum about it.

As in paramedic? Makes me chuckle as alot of my coworkers would be afraid to even touch a gun.:) When I told my co-workers that I was building a range on my property, they looked at me as though I had two heads. Different strokes I guess.
 
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As your neighbor right across the river here in Missouri, I have no problem with "tagging". After all, the sheriff is the one who issued me my CCW, I certainly hope they have that information on file. If they didn't, it would appear they have a very shoddy record keeping system. When it comes time to renew my permit, it will come in handy, as I won't have to go through the entire process once again. As I am a law abiding citizen, there's no reason why they shouldn't have a constant reminder of that fact.

Where I draw the line is if this information is released to the public. I've seen several posts where states, counties, and local government agancies in other states have PUBLISHED this information. This is where I feel the government has trampled roughshod all over gun owner's rights to privacy.
 
It depends on what software the agency uses. We could put officer safety information in the software they were using when I was working. In Illinois you can always check to see if the person has a FOID card before you go to the home for a domestic call.

I tagged an address once. We were receiving frequent domestic calls and there were usually weapons scattered through the residence in plain sight. So it was always a good idea to get the people out of the house if possible before dealing with the domestic.

Also several states that have CCW already tag it to drivers license information. I know for a fact that Tennessee sends CCW information with the drivers license info they send to out of state agencies. I've seen it on the screen on the MDC in my squad when I ran a TN driver.
 
I dunno if it is a coincidence or not, but since receiving my LTCF years ago, I have had a second police car show up the 2 times I have been pulled over. The first cop waited for the second before coming to my car...

Dunno if had anything to do with the LTCF or not.
 
Sounds as though it was related.

I never knew that about the FOID information if requested. Makes sense as they utilize the same Sec. of State pic.
 
I never knew that about the FOID information if requested. Makes sense as they utilize the same Sec. of State pic.
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There is a block to check on the IWIN software used statewide when you run someone from your MDC and if you check it you will get FOID information along with DL information.
 
Need To Know.

I've been brought from the brink 5 times by para-medics who know my heart condition. Same for diabetic shock and unconsciousness. Yes, I own an operational "I fell and can't get up" system. I also have made know my status as an armed citizen to my LEO friends, and made most first responders aware of the reloading equipment that is over in my garage. I feel that all of this info is only what I'd want to have known if I were a responder. "But you can't trust just ANYBODY!" Well, yes, but the Ch.ofPol. is my Sunday school teacher, and the Chaplain in the f.d. stands next to me in the choir. I do trust a few people. The rest I verify, if I'm conscious.
 
If you live on a Military base in goverment family housing you have to register your guns with the LE desk so they will know what you have when responding to a call at your house.
 
In Texas, when you get your CHL (Concealed Handgun License), all vehicles on which a CHL holder is registered get tagged. If a LEO runs plates, even if my wife is driving, it will show I'm a registered owner and a CHL holder. Additionally, on alarm permit applications you have to inform the PD if firearms, dogs, etc are present on the premises.

I've run my own license plates and have witnessed the information gets returned to LEOs. I'm not aware of paramedics getting any information.
 
I'm a dispatcher, the way it works here with our current systems is that the individual is not tagged by name or vehicle, but it is common practice especially with calls of a violent nature to flag an residential address if there are weapons involved.

Example: Domestic at 123 Yourstreet, caller provides that there are guns in the house. Police respond and use just caution knowing there are weapons on scene.

Now, that flag is going to be permenantly attached to 123 Yourstreet and any future calls to that address will also result in the officers/EMS/Firemen being warned that there are weapons in that location.

Only calls of a violent nature are apt to get the dispatcher to ask if there are weapons involved, not very likely for a medical call.

...and after thinking about it I could tag a vehicle if I wanted to, its not in practice here but I could attach a flag to a registration. My systems don't have an allowance to do it by name or DL number though.
 
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It would seem as though I have my answer. Thanks guys!

If we ever get CCW, I guess I am ambivalent as to whether I would want to know? For my job, it would make little difference other than initial scene stabilization. I definitely think that for LEO's it would be a huge benefit as to their jobs.
 
In Florida, the CHL is on the info strip on the back of your DL. I'm sure it's also in the computer with the associated tag #. You want privacy? Not in this lifetime. Joe
 
Am I the only one that thinks that the police building ,in essence, a gun owner database is not a good idea?
 
I would agree that it can cut both ways. I may be niave in my thoughts that by being proactive with my elected officials, that it won't cut the wrong way. I don't have the time or energy to constantly worry about government intrusion, ya know?
 
In Oklahoma, your CHL and DL are matched in the computer system. Last time I had an officer check my license, the dispatcher came back with something to the effect of:

Dispatch: "All clean. Additional."
Officer: "Go ahead."
Dispatch: "Handgun license."
Officer: "10-4"

Of course, I had already informed the officer that I was licensed and carrying, in compliance with Oklahoma law.

I don't know if that information is tagged to my license plate number. When the incident above occured, I was on a bicycle.
 
Tagging a residential address has value if no one ever moves.
When the occupants move, it becomes misleading information.

Is there a procedure to go through the city or county and update tags, or is it only common practice to apply a tag, not update it?
 
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