Question-Post SR9c letdown: Do U avoid guns w/ mag discon "safeties?"

[Landric]

Mag disconnects have there place IMO. I like them on duty guns, don't want them on competition guns, and don't care one way or the other for concealed carry guns. If I were to open carry outside of work, I'd carry a gun with a disconnect.

 

[JEB]

i do. Why would i pay $$$ for a gun that tells me when it can fire, and puts me in danger if the magazine has been lost? A magazine disconnect "safety" is a dealbreaker.

I don't fiddle with gun guts.

yep and yep

 

[Blind Bat]

If it's so easy to remove, why not sell the gun with the disconnect in the the box like Ruger does with the mag extensions? Or everyone does with the test fired case. Let the FFL install it.

The SR9 is sold in different models for CA, MA and the free states so I don't buy that argument. S&W sell's the M&P with the club switch as an option.

The mag disconnect is the one flaw that makes me believe JMB walked the Earth as a human.

Edit: None of the SR9c models offered at this time are approved for sale in MA or CA.... Also after looking at the you tube video of some guy removing the mag safety I've got to say Ruger did a nice job of implementing a system that doesn't touch the trigger mechanism. The mag simply lifts a secondary firing pin block when it's inserted. It's still a solution looking for a problem but at least it doesn't muck up the trigger pull.

 

[highorder]

Not picking a fight, but the SR9 is CA/MA compliant; the c model will likely be added to both rosters before the are available for sale:

Southport, CT- November 26, 2008 - Sturm, Ruger & Company, Inc. is pleased to announce that the Ruger SR9 pistol has been placed on the Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale within the State of California, as well as the Massachusetts Approved Firearms Roster. The SR9 pistol, chambered for 9mm Luger, was introduced last October and is the first striker-fired pistol from Ruger.

"We consider this a significant event," said Sturm, Ruger Vice President of Sales and Marketing Chris Killoy. "The addition of the SR9 pistol to the California and Massachusetts lists reflects our commitment to the law abiding citizens of those states. Ruger strongly believes that responsible American citizens should be able to choose quality, American-made firearms when exercising their Second Amendment Right to keep and bear arms, and that certainly extends to the thousands of shooting enthusiasts in California and Massachusetts."

The Ruger SR9 pistol currently available in California and Massachusetts (model number 3309, catalog number KSR9-10-L) features a black frame with a brushed stainless steel slide.

Short review from 1/4/10:
http://www.ammoland.com/2010/01/04/ruger-sr9c-compact-pistol/

State compliant variations are available where necessary and ship with two 10-round magazines.

 

[Michael6x6]

Ruger SR9c mag disconnect

Hey all, yes, the mag disconnect is a breeze to remove. My guess is that cops may like the idea of an MD so that if a perp gets ahold of your gun, and you had the presence of mind to remove the mag, as the perp takes your gun away, (unlikely) you won't be killed with your own gun. Ruger hopes that the SR9 will be picked up as a service weapon, at least with the full size version. I have the full size for my home defense gun, and a Taurus PT111 Millenium Pro in 9mm for CCW. I will sell it and get the new SR9c, as I love the full size version.

 

[johnnylaw53]

None of my weapons have the mag safty but if I wanted a weapon that had it that would not be a deal breaker. I hasn't and will not remove the lock on my off duty weapon which is a S&W 642, I just think one should not by pass any safty that is built in no matter how useless they are. There are really a couple of good reasons to have a mag safty on a weapon. 1. If you are stuggling with someone who trying to take your weapon and you think you are lossing control over it maybe you can press the mag release and drop the mag to make the weapon un fireable to the bad guy. I know that not suppose to happen but it can. 2. One of the biggest reason for a N.D. in a semi is when one is unloading thier weapon and they not paying attention and rack the slide before they drop the mag and then pull the trigger it goes band again not suppose to happen but I have had to investigate two such siturations where one of my officers did just this thankfully no one was hurt. It really a non issue to me training and paying attention to what you are doing will take care of this.

be safe

 

[HisSoldier]

Find me ONE instance of the mag dosconnect being a liability, and I'll find you FIFTY of it being a benefit

1. Fast mag changes are hampered by most mag safeties, requiring pulling the mag out by hand instead of them dropping out as JMB showed us.
2. Magazine safeties add unnecessary complexity and cost to any firearm, complexity without purpose increases unreliability.
3. Mag safeties give lawyers more power over gun manufacturing, giving power to a lawyer is like giving gasoline to a pyromaniac.
4. Mag safeties require time and effort to remove that could better be spent arguing with idiots on line.

You owe me 200 reasons why they are a benefit.

Good luck.

 

[bwsmith2850]

I avoid them. I had one with it and it was the first gun I sold. I prefer the gun to be able to fire that last round if the magazine gets dislodged or if I get reattacked in the middle a 'tactical reload'. Besides, once you start relying on that safety in a retention fight bad things can happen. Many of them will still fire w/o the magazine in place if there is any pressure on the trigger when the mag is dumped.