Questions for Open-Carry state residents

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CONNEX 3300 said:
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I don't know of any place in Washington more urban (and liberal) than downtown Seattle.

This is in Pike Place Market in the heart of the city. I took my girlfriend there on a Saturday when it was crawling with locals, tourists, and foreigners.
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^^ WAY TO GO! I really wish my so called "pro-gun" legislators could see this! They brag about us being the most conservative state, but we sure can't OC like that. This should be an embarassment that Seattle can handle it, but we can't.
Man, that sure does look like fun. Can't wait till its legal here.
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This is also Washington state:


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http://www.www.opencarry.org/forums...m-the-2A-rally-on-4.30.11-(Warning-lotsa-pics!)
 
Wow! is that in the capitol? :what: sure couldn't be seen ANYWHERE public like that in this "pro-gun" state I'm in.:fire:
 
Put that basic statement behind ANY of the "blood will flow in the streets if....." sort of warnings. They just never turn out to be true. As "pro gun" people I am not sure why some of us continue to repeat that nonsense.
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Hey TR, um I guess I'm kinda slow tonight. Could you clarify what exactly what you are referencing when you say "nonsense"? Like specifically what is the nonsense that pro-gun people repeat? The blood in the streets, or the lack of incidents where constitutional carry is permitted?
Not trying to cross-question you or cause any trouble. I am just not the sharpest knife in the drawer:)
 
CONNEX 3300 said:
Hey TR, um I guess I'm kinda slow tonight. Could you clarify what exactly what you are referencing when you say "nonsense"? Like specifically what is the nonsense that pro-gun people repeat? The blood in the streets, or the lack of incidents where constitutional carry is permitted?
Not trying to cross-question you or cause any trouble. I am just not the sharpest knife in the drawer
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Whenever there is a discussion of doing away with "reasonable regulation" of firearms possession, there is always part of the "pro-gun" crowd that will cry about how it will be bad, it will increase accidents, bad image for gun carriers, etc. These comments come from "pro-2A" people right here on these boards.

Examples: carry in restaurants that serve alcohol, carry in bars, carrying in stadiums, carrying while under the influence of any amount of alcohol, carrying without training, carrying without a permit required, permits issued without training, and in some discussions even just open carrying.

The fact is, in states like AZ and others where these activities are not limited by law, we just don't see any problems manifesting themselves.
 
Like specifically what is the nonsense that pro-gun people repeat?
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Well in the case of open carry the nonsense repeated by "pro gun" people includes, but certainly isn't limited to, things like:

Open carriers are targets and will be shot first by the bad guy.
Open carriers get their guns taken away and used on them.
Open carriers give gun owners a bad name and will get concealed carry taken away.
Open carriers will be mistakenly shot by cops.
Unpermitted/untrained open carry causes higher incidents of negligent discharges and is dangerous to the public.

Any time this subject comes up you will see comments like that, made by people who will swear they are as pro 2A as they come.

Yet, when you look at the real world statistics in states that have had open carry for a while it turns out that none of them are true. None. Anywhere.

So, why do pro gun people keep repeating statements I'd expect to find on the Brady website?

I just don't understand it.
 
Pretty good experience in VT... Took a firearm training class in the Franklin area two years ago.
Instructor let me borrow his Kimber and Rock River 1911s for the class (I had just barely gotten my NYS pistol permit), and when break time came, he had no problem with my leaving his gun strapped to my hip when I drove to a lakeside restaurant and got some food with the other class members.
None of the people eating there mentioned anything, either.
I thought it was cool, and what a contrast with NYS in so many ways, including being trusted with the instructor's firearms!
 
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Like specifically what is the nonsense that pro-gun people repeat?

Well in the case of open carry the nonsense repeated by "pro gun" people includes, but certainly isn't limited to, things like:

Open carriers are targets and will be shot first by the bad guy.
Open carriers get their guns taken away and used on them.
Open carriers give gun owners a bad name and will get concealed carry taken away.
Open carriers will be mistakenly shot by cops.
Unpermitted/untrained open carry causes higher incidents of negligent discharges and is dangerous to the public.

Any time this subject comes up you will see comments like that, made by people who will swear they are as pro 2A as they come.

Yet, when you look at the real world statistics in states that have had open carry for a while it turns out that none of them are true. None. Anywhere.

So, why do pro gun people keep repeating statements I'd expect to find on the Brady website?

I just don't understand it.
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OK. Thats what I thought you were saying, just making sure:)
I completely agree btw.
I was about to join my state rifle association, when I discovered they lobbied the legislature against open carry :barf: They sure aren't getting my membership now. I've heard all kinds of pointless arguments from gunowners against open carry. One guy said "If we pass Open Carry, all them gangbangers will be struttin their guns right in the middle of town" to which I replied: "so you would rather them keep their guns hidden while they are around you? so that you aren't completely sure if they are armed or bluffing? Considering that most of them are convicted felons, do you think they are going to advertise that they are doing something that could get them sent back to prison?"
I guess it all boils down to the fact that if you don't want OC, you WILL find problems with it. If you look for problems, you will find them. There is a downside to everything. Doesn't mean that it isn't the right thing to do.
 
Pretty good experience in VT... Took a firearm training class in the Franklin area two years ago.
Instructor let me borrow his Kimber and Rock River 1911s for the class (I had just barely gotten my NYS pistol permit), and when break time came, he had no problem with my leaving his gun strapped to my hip when I drove to a lakeside restaurant and got some food with the other class members.
None of the people eating there mentioned anything, either.
I thought it was cool, and what a contrast with NYS in so many ways, including being trusted with the instructor's firearms!
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Wow. That is pretty unusual. Pretty cool too. :D Sounds you found a dang good instructor
 
KY is very open carry friendly. As long as a person doesn't fiddle with it, act like it's supposed to be there, and in general, don't act like a doofus, people don't notice it.
 
Tennessee issues a handgun carry permit. Concealed carry is the norm. One rarely sees open carry in urban areas. We have experienced a single individual carrying on a one man open carry campaign, an obnoxious one and he eventually lost his permit. I don't worry about printing or floppy coats etc. As far as I know our neighboring states (8 the greatest number) are CCW required. When I was a Georgia resident 30 odd years ago they had an open carry permit.
 
KY is very open carry friendly. As long as a person doesn't fiddle with it, act like it's supposed to be there, and in general, don't act like a doofus, people don't notice it.
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Awesome. Is that all over the state? (not including places like schools and courthouses) Or are there some cities and counties that don't allow it? seems like there are some states where cities have different rules. Seems like that would be confusing:scrutiny:
 
Here in Idaho it's legal. It sounds like people don't really notice it. I think the only places you can't OC are schools and federally restricted places. And I've never seen a business with a No Guns sign since I moved here a year and a half ago.
 
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I do open carry on occasion. Usually, it's when I'm on the way home from the range or hiking or something, where I've been carrying a holstered pistol on my belt anyway, but sometimes, I'll carry that way anyway. It happens in my town more often than it used to, even though we have true constitutional carry now - no permit required. There are some irksome limitations, like school zones, but overall, we have a very pleasant legal environment for firearms enthusiasts here.
 
Awesome. Is that all over the state? (not including places like schools and courthouses) Or are there some cities and counties that don't allow it? seems like there are some states where cities have different rules. Seems like that would be confusing
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There are always some cities that think they can come up with laws that override the State law, but they are few and far between. Hancock County and Daviess County are very friendly. The key to Open Carry is to not call attention to it.
 
I sometimes open carry in my yard and around my neighborhood. If I need to run down to the corner store or local parts store, I do. I've never had any negative feedback, but I am a familiar face in all those places.
 
Can you guys really just walk down the street almost anywhere without causing much concern? I think it would be great but I have never seen it done. Just curious.

What about folks in Vermont? Great laws, but I'm wondering if the culture in the NE might have some negative reactions to open carry.
I guess I'm just wondering how things might go if we get open carry legalized.

Anybody with open carry experience is welcome to chime in with personal experience
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Pretty much, yeah, although it's not that common. In the last five years, I think I've seen a dozen people open-carrying.

I open carry whilst camping or hunting, and that's about it. Don't see the need to otherwise. Part of it is because I don't want to draw attention to myself around my neighborhood, making my home a target for burglars.

The thing with open carry is, people will judge all firearms owners by your actions. A nice guy with a gun makes guns nice. A jerk with a pistol ruins it for everyone.

And for heaven's sake, don't be this guy.
 
Open carry is legal in my state but people have been arrested/fined for it but the arrest was understandable when a guy is walking around a major city with a fully loaded AK and a history of mental illness and another was a guy open carring a holstered pistol in front of a deli the workers called the cops and the guy had a cc permit and they told him to conceal it which he refused to do and was issued a citation
 
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Open carry is legal in my state but people have been arrested/fined for it but the arrest was understandable when a guy is walking around a major city with a fully loaded AK and a history of mental illness and another was a guy open carring a holstered pistol in front of a deli the workers called the cops and the guy had a cc permit and they told him to conceal it which he refused to do and was issued a citation
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What was he cited for? You just said open carry is legal in your state. What law was the guy in front of the deli breaking? And what does "fully loaded" have to do with anything? What does that even mean? If the man had a history of mental illness that would prevent him from legally owning a firearm then it would also prevent him from legally carrying it, open or concealed. It doesn't have anything to do with legal open carry.
 
What was he cited for? You just said open carry is legal in your state. What law was the guy in front of the deli breaking?
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A police officer can almost always find something to cite you for. There's old favorites like disturbing/breaching the peace, threatening, brandishing and so on. Nor does it have to have the virtue of actually being true.
 
A police officer can almost always find something to cite you for. There's old favorites like disturbing/breaching the peace, threatening, brandishing and so on. Nor does it have to have the virtue of actually being true.
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So if I'm running down the street, the Officer can tell me to walk and if I don't he's going to cite me because people may think I just robbed a store?
 
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