DutchmanDick
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Quit crying already
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After an appropriate period of mourning, lift your head...
...and do something.
Other posters are currently correct in that the Hill is held by a narrow margin
and the left-wing will be wary of anything that could throw the balance of
power back in 2010. However, those of use old enough to remember 1992
through 1994 know quite well how willing members of the radical left are in
sacrificing their own in moving "their cause" forward. In other words, expect
a major gun control bill within the next two years. (If you doubt my predictive
abilities, please read my posts over the last two years to see how we all
arrived at this point this morning).
I disagree that the economy is going to improve over the next year since all
the numbers, bank sales, etc point to the opposite happening. You haven't
even seen the start of the real economic fall-out yet! That said, history
shows crime gets worse as the overall economy gets worse --does the
Great Depression and the original machine gun ban come to mind? As things
go down hill, gun control/crime control will be on the top of the list when
it comes to supposedly fixing things and making "change" lead the way. So
you can count on gun control bills.
Things you can do:
1. Join the NRA. Yes, I know all the usual reasons not to, but it's kind of
like only having one car in the garage and then complaining about driving it
because the gas milage, speed, seating, isn't exactly the way we would
like it. At this point, though, walking by yourself is not an option since you
will miss the rally ahead. Meanwhile, the opposite side has plenty of
public transportation to utilize for their cause. Quit griping, it's time for us
to car-pool.
2. Get involved at the local level. Some state orgs are better than others.
Likewise, some states are excellent at maintaining the 2A and the real
threat comes at them only from the federal level. Your state org may not
seem like it's really needed at your level, but you will find they're often the
people who are best informed at what's coming done the pike.
3. If you're a veteran get involved w/ the American Legion and/or VFW. No,
these are not 2A orgs, but they're the people who are connected to other
local movers and shakers in your community. Once you're a member, get a
Garand through the CMP --let their sales numbers show the bureaucrats
above that we are very involved and active.
4. Not a veteran? Fine, again there are other local orgs that may not be
2A, but are great for making connections throughout your community. This
can be a place of worship, a community business org, or some other non-profit.
5. Go to a range that has members other than your immediate family. Say
Hi and meet some people. Take a new person target shooting or hunting.
6. Run for office. Some of us are information-processing introverts who make
far better back-stage consultants rather than council members, representatives,
etc. We know this. I'm asking those of you who can work a room and press
the flesh to put your well-refined extrovert abilities for making synergy or
whatever it's called today to use for our cause. I promise you will have
plenty of opportunities for social gathering where people will loan you all
sorts of weapons and free ammunition.
7. Think long term. The other side does. I know our side has a tendency to
say "enough talking already" before slinging the EBR over one shoulder, grabbing
a vine and swinging across the alligator-infested river. However, we have to
be wary of landing in the quick-sand on the other side. Yes, sometimes the
introverts are far too cautious when the risk needs to be taken, but other
times the extroverts and the pack they're leading find themselves in the
quagmire and say "How did that happen?!" We need to listen to each other,
PLAN AHEAD, and then MOVE TOGETHER. But for this to work, we all need
to be humble and honest within our own house.
8. Quit crying, re-read this list, and start checking it off.
...and do something.
Other posters are currently correct in that the Hill is held by a narrow margin
and the left-wing will be wary of anything that could throw the balance of
power back in 2010. However, those of use old enough to remember 1992
through 1994 know quite well how willing members of the radical left are in
sacrificing their own in moving "their cause" forward. In other words, expect
a major gun control bill within the next two years. (If you doubt my predictive
abilities, please read my posts over the last two years to see how we all
arrived at this point this morning).
I disagree that the economy is going to improve over the next year since all
the numbers, bank sales, etc point to the opposite happening. You haven't
even seen the start of the real economic fall-out yet! That said, history
shows crime gets worse as the overall economy gets worse --does the
Great Depression and the original machine gun ban come to mind? As things
go down hill, gun control/crime control will be on the top of the list when
it comes to supposedly fixing things and making "change" lead the way. So
you can count on gun control bills.
Things you can do:
1. Join the NRA. Yes, I know all the usual reasons not to, but it's kind of
like only having one car in the garage and then complaining about driving it
because the gas milage, speed, seating, isn't exactly the way we would
like it. At this point, though, walking by yourself is not an option since you
will miss the rally ahead. Meanwhile, the opposite side has plenty of
public transportation to utilize for their cause. Quit griping, it's time for us
to car-pool.
2. Get involved at the local level. Some state orgs are better than others.
Likewise, some states are excellent at maintaining the 2A and the real
threat comes at them only from the federal level. Your state org may not
seem like it's really needed at your level, but you will find they're often the
people who are best informed at what's coming done the pike.
3. If you're a veteran get involved w/ the American Legion and/or VFW. No,
these are not 2A orgs, but they're the people who are connected to other
local movers and shakers in your community. Once you're a member, get a
Garand through the CMP --let their sales numbers show the bureaucrats
above that we are very involved and active.
4. Not a veteran? Fine, again there are other local orgs that may not be
2A, but are great for making connections throughout your community. This
can be a place of worship, a community business org, or some other non-profit.
5. Go to a range that has members other than your immediate family. Say
Hi and meet some people. Take a new person target shooting or hunting.
6. Run for office. Some of us are information-processing introverts who make
far better back-stage consultants rather than council members, representatives,
etc. We know this. I'm asking those of you who can work a room and press
the flesh to put your well-refined extrovert abilities for making synergy or
whatever it's called today to use for our cause. I promise you will have
plenty of opportunities for social gathering where people will loan you all
sorts of weapons and free ammunition.
7. Think long term. The other side does. I know our side has a tendency to
say "enough talking already" before slinging the EBR over one shoulder, grabbing
a vine and swinging across the alligator-infested river. However, we have to
be wary of landing in the quick-sand on the other side. Yes, sometimes the
introverts are far too cautious when the risk needs to be taken, but other
times the extroverts and the pack they're leading find themselves in the
quagmire and say "How did that happen?!" We need to listen to each other,
PLAN AHEAD, and then MOVE TOGETHER. But for this to work, we all need
to be humble and honest within our own house.
8. Quit crying, re-read this list, and start checking it off.
I appreciate Mike's sentiment whole heartedly.
We have a sticky on 2A groups and any new ones you can think of here should be added. http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=292484
We have a sticky on 2A groups and any new ones you can think of here should be added. http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=292484
bdickens
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If you are a Texan, and not a member of the TSRA, then shame on you!
http://www.tsra.com/?p=page&id=1
http://www.tsra.com/?p=page&id=1
ATAShooter
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I too am going to be noisy. It seems like the only ones that are heard are the B&M crowd. When trying to do it the correct way, we get shoveled dirt on top of us. If you are Loud, whiney, you get it done. I guess the squeeky wheel saying is true after all.
ClonaKilty
Member
In addition to joining NRA, please donate to the specific Congress lobbying arm, the Institute for Legal Action:
http://www.nraila.org/
Also, for Oregon residents, PLEASE join Oregon Firearms Federation. They have a history of strong successes, most recently in forcing the Portland Port Authority to acknowledge they had no right to ban CHLs from the non-sterile areas of the Portland airport (this had been a long protracted fight):
http://oregonfirearms.org/
http://www.nraila.org/
Also, for Oregon residents, PLEASE join Oregon Firearms Federation. They have a history of strong successes, most recently in forcing the Portland Port Authority to acknowledge they had no right to ban CHLs from the non-sterile areas of the Portland airport (this had been a long protracted fight):
http://oregonfirearms.org/
AirForceShooter
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Now Klona has it right.
The NRA cannot by law lobby or espouse a political opinion.
The NRA is an educational organization.
Therefore all contributions and membership dues are tax deductible.
The NRA-ILA is where it's at. They're the lobbyists.
They're the hammer.
Contributions to the ILA are not tax deductible.
Send money anyway. I do, but I won't join the NRA.
With any gun rights organization. If the dues aren't tax deductible it's a lobbying organization. A good thing
AFS
The NRA cannot by law lobby or espouse a political opinion.
The NRA is an educational organization.
Therefore all contributions and membership dues are tax deductible.
The NRA-ILA is where it's at. They're the lobbyists.
They're the hammer.
Contributions to the ILA are not tax deductible.
Send money anyway. I do, but I won't join the NRA.
With any gun rights organization. If the dues aren't tax deductible it's a lobbying organization. A good thing
AFS
Posts disappear?
We're getting some low road comments, dramatic thread veer and just ranting. That's not what Activism is for.
If we don't have a 2A activist group in the 2A group stickie, then post it here (better yet, go look and post it there), but Activism is not your place to whine about the election. It's your place to discuss how to accomplish things and this thread is about what groups are out there to help you accomplish them.
Take the emo stuff to some other board, we got work to do here.
We're getting some low road comments, dramatic thread veer and just ranting. That's not what Activism is for.
If we don't have a 2A activist group in the 2A group stickie, then post it here (better yet, go look and post it there), but Activism is not your place to whine about the election. It's your place to discuss how to accomplish things and this thread is about what groups are out there to help you accomplish them.
Take the emo stuff to some other board, we got work to do here.
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I think now is the time to force National Park Carry
I think that we need to concentrate on getting the final rule making on Carry in National Parks out of the interior. It would be a good test of how Obama will handle gun issue. If we have carry legalized in national parks, and Obama quickly issues an executive order to reverse that, then we know we will be in for a rough ride on RKBA issues. If he leaves it alone, then many other RKBA issues will also likely be left alone.
Write you Representative and Senators to push for a DOI decision on Carry in National parks.
I think that we need to concentrate on getting the final rule making on Carry in National Parks out of the interior. It would be a good test of how Obama will handle gun issue. If we have carry legalized in national parks, and Obama quickly issues an executive order to reverse that, then we know we will be in for a rough ride on RKBA issues. If he leaves it alone, then many other RKBA issues will also likely be left alone.
Write you Representative and Senators to push for a DOI decision on Carry in National parks.
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cmidkiff
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Here's a few I'm partial to:
http://www.wmsa.net
http://www.missourisportshooting.org/
http://www.gclastl.org/
http://www.appleseedinfo.org
http://www.missouricarry.com
While I don't believe the President Elect has the votes to start taking guns out of people's safes... he does have the votes to close the 'gun show loophole' (more properly referred to as the 'Joe wants to sell Bill a gun' loophole), and the votes to implement a new AWB, most likely with more teeth than the one Clinton imposed, and sure as heck without the 10 year shelf life... and probably a ban on magazines that hold more than 10 rounds.
The louder us bitter/clingy folks scream 'NO', the better our chances of avoiding this garbage. Make sure the newly elected majority knows that they'll pay dearly for stepping on us. The gun issue was avoided like the plague during the election... let's make sure they continue to keep the 2nd amendment at arms length for the next 2 years.
Support the NRA, and your local gun rights organizations!
http://www.wmsa.net
http://www.missourisportshooting.org/
http://www.gclastl.org/
http://www.appleseedinfo.org
http://www.missouricarry.com
While I don't believe the President Elect has the votes to start taking guns out of people's safes... he does have the votes to close the 'gun show loophole' (more properly referred to as the 'Joe wants to sell Bill a gun' loophole), and the votes to implement a new AWB, most likely with more teeth than the one Clinton imposed, and sure as heck without the 10 year shelf life... and probably a ban on magazines that hold more than 10 rounds.
The louder us bitter/clingy folks scream 'NO', the better our chances of avoiding this garbage. Make sure the newly elected majority knows that they'll pay dearly for stepping on us. The gun issue was avoided like the plague during the election... let's make sure they continue to keep the 2nd amendment at arms length for the next 2 years.
Support the NRA, and your local gun rights organizations!
Naja
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mapriceak
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ezypikns
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Do what the man said.
Also Amen to the TSRA (Texas State Rifle Association). An outstanding organization.
Also Amen to the TSRA (Texas State Rifle Association). An outstanding organization.
30mag
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Hey, if I'm not a Jew, can I still join JPFO?
MikePGS
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Yes, you can.
BHP FAN
Member
Did no one see #41??!
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:h6257:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:h6257:
FourTeeFive
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cliffy
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All the bad things NRA WROTE about Obama made no difference
If I would have run for President on the Republican ticket, it would have not made a spit's difference. Obama's gang rolled over us as if we barely existed. NRAs latest publications only enflamed us shooters, apparently not many other Americans. The Electorial College inundated any chance McCain might have had per popular vote. 48% still ain't bad. It's not like Obama garnered 92% of the popular vote, after all. Still, we now have a new Commander-in-Chief of the United States Military Forces. We must SUPPORT his sworn duty to protect us from IRAN, the third most powerful military force in the modern world. Pray he prevents World War III, without surrendering the most potent force on our planet. cliffy
If I would have run for President on the Republican ticket, it would have not made a spit's difference. Obama's gang rolled over us as if we barely existed. NRAs latest publications only enflamed us shooters, apparently not many other Americans. The Electorial College inundated any chance McCain might have had per popular vote. 48% still ain't bad. It's not like Obama garnered 92% of the popular vote, after all. Still, we now have a new Commander-in-Chief of the United States Military Forces. We must SUPPORT his sworn duty to protect us from IRAN, the third most powerful military force in the modern world. Pray he prevents World War III, without surrendering the most potent force on our planet. cliffy
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