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Over the past few days, I've noticed that we have an unexpected visitor to our porch during the evenings, a rather large raccoon, easily bigger than our barn cats, so far it seems content to eat the leftover cat food in the dish on the porch, I've started taking in the food dish at night, so hopefully that should be all that's needed to get "Rocky" to move along, no food, no 'coon

What surprised me, last night, is how "tame" it seemed, I looked out on the porch at around 9 PM, to see the raccoon eating the leftover cat food, I opened the door a crack to shoo it away, it looked up at me, with a quizzical stare, contemplated it's options, and slowly turned and trundled away, actually stopping to look back a couple times as it climbed the porch railing and sninked down the other side, I'd swear it almost looked "depressed" that it was losing it's easy source of food

it moved so slowly and non-agressively that it practically seemed tame, I was momentarily tempted to see if I could pet it, but that insane thought passed quickly, as I know it's a wild animal and therefore unpredictable....

Is there any risk to having this raccoon around? as long as we don't leave food out it should just leave, i'd assume, go on to another house that leaves food out at night

If it does come down to shooting Rocky (I'd rather not, I'm a live-and-let-live kinda' guy), what would be the reccomended caliber to humanely dispatch it with a minimum of suffering?

I have;
.22 (CB, Shorts, LR subsonic, CCI Segmented Subsonic, and Velocitors)
.17HMR (17 Gn Vmax and 20 Gn XTP)
.45ACP (200Gn LSWC, 180Gn GDHP, 230Gn GDHP)
.45 Colt (200Gn LSWC, 250Gn LRN, 250Gn GDHP)
7.62x39
20 Ga. (#7.5 birdshot, #3 Buck, 1 oz Brenneke slug)
12Ga. (#7.5 bird, #4 Buck, #00 Buck, #000 Buck, 1 Oz slugs)

I'd prefer to use a round that will humanely put it down with a one-shot kill, but since I'd probably be shooting it on the porch, I don't want something too powerful that would overpenetrate, so anything above the .17HMR is probably out (close-range birdshot may possibly work)

To be honest, if I was to shoot it, this would probably be the first animal I'd like to recover the pelt on, are there any good links that would cover cleaning and skinning small game?

Oh, one last thing, Dad never took me hunting, as I was never interested in it as a child, I was more a target shooter/plinker, give me paper targets and plastic bottles to shoot and I'm good for the day, so I'm unfamiliar with the way small game reacts when shot....

so far, the only "Bang-Flop" I ever got was a couple years ago when I took down a large adult female woodchuck with a shot through the ear, dropped with the first shot, out like a light, used a CCI Velocitor, clean shoot-through, entered the right ear, exited the left, 'chuck just dropped, motionless

a few months ago, I had to take out a 'possum, it was hiding in one of our cat-barrels (small wooden cask filled with hay), 10 feet away, Possum staring right at me, hate in it's beady little eyes...

first shot was with a Remington CBee, aimed between the eyes, it was in the evening, and I wanted to keep the noise down, 'possom dropped to it's side, rear legs twitching, and making a guttural growl/hiss, rear legs twitching uncontrollably, obvious bullet hole in the skull

Saddened by my inability to perform a one-shot kill, I loaded up a CCI Segmented Subsonic, another head shot, no more growl/hiss, just kicking, unsure of if I had killed it, I took the final shot with the Segmented Subsonic in the heart/lung location, all motion stopped

I consider that another failure, three rounds to put an animal down is unacceptable, a clear failure on my part, my first mistake was using the CBee, I think if I had used the Segmented Subs, noise be dammned, it would have been a one-shot kill

Here's the question, was I misinterpreting the twitch/growl as signs of life? in my mind, when a small game animal takes a headshot, it should simply drop, motionless with no signs of life, as the woodchuck did...

Admittedly, the 'chuck was shot with a far more powerful round (Velocitor) and it's entirely possible had I used a Velocitor on the 'possum, I would have gotten the same result, a bang-flop

So, was I misinterpreting the twitch/growl of the 'possum, thinking it was still alive?
 
a lot of time a varmint will kick and flop a bit when yu shoot him, especially possums for sum reason.dont make them any less dead tho. coons can carry rabies if i remember correctly, much as skunks do.not sure how the pelt thing would work out as coon hides are not "prime" as they say untill late nov in most places.or here in mo anyway.in the summer a coon hide will be a light blue looking color on the flesh side. i know furbuyers really dont like that and wont take them.im not sure if it means the hair is just to thin to look good when tanned or the hair will shed when tanned.my experience here with letting coons hang around is that pretty soon they will get into something yu really dont want thewm too. they are cute and fun to watch tho!
 
12 Ga. buckshot. They're actually pretty smart and interesting animals, but you don't want an angry one getting close to you. If you have to shoot it, do it with something that will work for sure.

I fought, and drove away, an angry raccoon with a short-handled shovel once. In all honesty, it was only angry because I was hitting it with a shovel. But I didn't want it living under my porch. Shovels work, but a gun will work better if you gotta get rid of it.
 
As a kid, we used to have a pet raccoon. He was very tame, was used in a movie once back in the late 70's. My grandfather acquired him some sort of a horse trade, and kept him for about 2.5 years... Another man had a female raccoon, and ended up with "Rascal". He was a neat pet, and most of the critters, even in the wild, are mostly harmless... if you leave them alone. they will leave you alone.

Rabies is rare in raccoons, more common in dogs that are untreated... Canine Distemper is a little more common, but still rare.
Personally, I would enjoy watching him from time to time, but would not attempt to "pet" a wild raccoon. He's probably used to people if you live in a neighborhood, probably been used being routinely "fed" by neighbors.
 
ironically I was just watching a large raccoon in my parents' garage. We have a similar situation where he (she?) takes the food the cats do not eat, but does not ever fight with the cats. Our visitor has been around for a couple years now, and we are very much in the live and let live category with it. The raccoon is fun to watch, and isn't causing any harm. I hate to kill something just for the sake of killing it.

As for taking the pelt, you may need a small game license and it may have to be in season for the raccoon. Check your local regulations. I know little of fur bearers, but the pelt is definitely not prime right now and is not nearly as nice as it could be if you harvested him (or her) during the winter months.
 
Why kill it?

It sounds to me that the racoon is not dangerous, only hungry. I have an armadillo problem at my house but they dig up and leave some terrible holes in my yard so I have addressed them due to that issue. But if the racoon is amiable, and no threat, why not let him be? They are really no different than the cat your feeding, except they don't take a dump in your litter box. If it snarls or does something inherently dangerous, then drop it like a pear in august, but if not, then don't kill it needlessly. If you are interested in eating it, and then taking the pelt, that is a goodreason But please make sure you have learned all of the steps you need to do to skin it, or you will waste that as well. Just my two cents.
 
The only time I'd consider dispatching it is if it showed signs of aggression towards our cats or us, I'm perfectly content to live and let live, if it's not harming the cats or us, there's no reason not to let it live

at the worst, I may just trap it in our large Havahart trap and move it a few miles away
 
Here in Colorado last year, they had one hell of a rabies scare, dead coons and skunks galore. Not in just one part of the state, but here in the Denver area, there were many coons that had rabies. If the "friendly" coon comes back, I'd dispatch it pronto.
 
+1
Should Rocky become to much of a nuisance just rent
one of those Have A Hart traps, bait it with some canned
cat food, then re-locate it several miles away.
As for a pelt, wait for a fresh road kill that wasn't hammered
to badly and learn your skinning/tanning skills with that....
 
Quit feeding the cat outside and Rocky will go elsewhere for a free meal. Secure your garbage cans too. Rocky can open jars, so a garbage can is nothing. And a weight on top won't help. He'll just push the can over.
Had an uncle who had a family of 'coons nesting under his gararge every year for eons. Mom would put the youngun's up a tree, then go forage in the alley. Knocked over ever garbage can in the alley, except my uncle's.
"...an angry raccoon..." Or rabid. Rocky would likely be out in the day time if that was the case though. Rabid 'coons hiss, snap, snarl and get extremely aggressive. A well placed .22 LR will kill 'em.
 
Yes, quit leaving food outside.

Also, rabies is not at all rare in racoons. They're right up there with bats and skunks.

I used to have the live and let live approach with racoons and if my living situation were different I might still feel that way but they've gotten into so much mischief where I live now that I shoot them on sight.
 
Live trap and release

The pelt is no good this time of year.Get a box trap,catch it and take it to a wooded area and release it.;)
 
Exactly,commando the pelt is at it's thinnest as far as fur production right now, live-trap it and set it loose,, i'll hope to see him this winter when he/she's all fatted-up and stuck in my trap !!
 
I can say from recent experience that 20gr Aguila powderless subsonics won't do it. They will make him hiss at you alot though. Standard bulk pack stuff, probably Federals, did just fine with one through the chest.

My defense:
This fella was unfortunate to get caught by my dogs and climbed a small tree after I called them off. One of my dogs (Magoo) used to be quite the mid-sized rodent killer (even got a turkey buzzard once :eek:) but he's getting old and I don't need a $$$ vet bill because he still thinks he's fast enough. My neighbor also encouraged me to dispatch it as he'd been unsuccessfully trying to trap it for months.

I started with the wimpy ammo because we're in a neighborhood and it was 9 or so at night (and was overly optimistic/stupid). Luckily, I didn't get the "first round pop" through the suppressor with the one shot from the bulk stuff.

That was the first animal I've ever shot. It may well be my last unless I get the opportunity to blast some of those infernal hogs infesting everywhere, particularly around my trout streams and rivers.
 
Where i live we are over run with coons, and they get shot on site. I believe it's still against the law here to release a trapped coon, and i sure as heck don't want anyone releaseing one near here! Townies come out here and do it all the time!

If you don't want a coon around, kill it, don't make it someone elses problem!

DM
 
Is there any risk to having this raccoon around?

Yes.

It has lost it's fear of humans and it has found a place where food is available. Take the cat food away and it will get into your garbage. It will get into your other outbuildings and do damage looking for food now that the easy stuff is taken away. Odds are any coon that large has a mate and youngin's around. They too will soon be a regular at your place. There's a reason most states allow land owners to shoot nuisance animals. Put the cat food out in the driveway and wait. Use whatever you want....coons aren't hard to kill. Just don't miss, they learn very fast.
 
Catch it in your live trap, take it somewhere secluded and pop it in the head with a .22, end of problem.
 
Kill it period. Hide's no good this time of year, it's a wild animal can't be trusted. Can kill a good dog or gut one. A 22 works fine, just shoot it and drop it in a hole. We hunt them with dogs bred for them and still get one torn up.
 
A .22 will work just fine as will your .17hmr. But if you really want some excitement just wait till he finds a way into your kitchen!
 
A 22 will do the job if you dont have the critter all ready for fight or flight first. First two coon I ever saw shot one took 6 22 mag rounds and a shot from a 38. It had been chased a few miles by the dogs though. The next had tried to run a bow hunter out of his tree stand and took 3 arrows to put down. We took that hide to the fur buyer and he bought it cuz we wouldnt tell him what put 5 inch and a half holes in the thing unless he did buy it first.
 
I hunted them in PA with dogs, great eating. In Flagstaff rabies has been a problem in coons and skunks off and on for a period of years. I believe the more timid a wild animal appears the more dangerous it could be. They are very fast with sharp teeth and bitten through heavy leather boots - lucky for me the boots were big on me. You really don't want one around.
 
Careful as Racoons,especially the "tame ones" are REALLY because of the Coons agressive nature to be Rabies susseptible.
Make sure that your Dogs ,Cats and other pets are inoculated.
For Rabies to be contacted, a BITE is NOT required as a scratch from an infected animal is all that is necessary.
To me this animal should be destroyed, my method is a box trap first, .22short hollow point to the head to dispatch the critter.
 
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