Range Tales How many pings?

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MSgt B

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Took my son and my pistols to the Chickahominy range on Sunday.

I fired the .45 and gave my son the 9mm to practice with.
WooHoo!! (This is me jumping for joy). I finally got my RIA .45 through 100 rnds with no stem binds. It was the first 100 that I fired that day. (700-800 since the gun was bought) I got two binds that I’m not counting because they happened when I was releasing the slide forward on a new magazine. ( heavier spring?)
The second 100 rounds got me 4 stem binds as the weapon got dirtier. It was a spur-of-the-moment thing, so I hadn’t brought along my full range bag with cleaning kit. I know the rest of the country has been facing some pretty terrible storms, but it was 83 degrees and sunny in VA.

Now for the “flaming” part. Get your torches ready.

We were shooting at the 15 yd berm (Looks like 10 yds to me, but I’ve never actually measured it). There is chicken wire strung of along the front of the berm on angle-iron posts. The posts are set so both sides of the angle are set off 45 degrees from the shooter. (Minimize the chance of a ricochet coming straight back). Regardless, one of the posted range rules is not to shoot the posts.
We were about half way through our second 100 rounds, when !PING!, someone about 15 ft off to our left hit one of the posts. This happens occasionally, makes me catch my breath for a second, then I go on shooting. About ten seconds later, !PING!. OK, the guy’s sights are off a little, he’ll correct it for sure now. I’m not too worried. I can tell from the sound it’s that guy with an ancient .22 revolver with short rounds, and they haven’t hit anyone yet. I load up a fresh magazine and prepare to go back to work…!PING! (can you believe this dork?)
At this point I notice my son decocks the Sig and sets it down on the rail/table (pointed down range) and turns to face me. I went ahead and set my .45 down and faced him as well.

Me: “Makes you nervous, doesn’t it?”
The Fruit of My Loins (FoML): “Yeah”
Me: “You understand now why I jumped in your @ss for hitting the post with the AK that time?”
FoML: “Yeah”

!PING! (I couldn’t have timed it better if I’d paid the dork to do it for me)

FoML involuntarily gives his shoulders a quick little hunch and tucks his chin down to his chest. He wants to duck/dive for cover/run away, but he’s not because I’m standing there discussing this with him very calmly, his fight-or-flight reflex is screaming at him.

Me: “Can you tell me where that bullet went?”
FoML: “Huh-uh”
Me: “You think that <expletive> down there knows?” (I indicate the dork with a head nod)
F0ML: “Nope”

!PING!

FoML is really freaking out now. I’m even getting a little nervous. The .22 short is one of the most survivable rounds out there, but do I really want one of those rattling around in my son’s skull? I am slow to anger, but I could feel myself getting there.

Me: “You want him to stop now?
FoML: “ Yeah”

I didn’t get the chance to vent on the guy. Someone closer took the time to explain some things to him, and the post pinging stopped.

I related this story to my wife as an excellent example of an objective lesson versus a subjective lesson. (Objective: “If I smack you with this stick, it will hurt” Subjective: “See this stick? SMACK Didn’t that hurt?”
She was more of the opinion that I should have been less concerned with reinforcing FoML’s safe shooting practices and more concerned with pistol-whipping the guy after the second or third ping, and she tore me up pretty good for endangering our son like that.

I’m a pretty easy-going guy. Maybe too easy going. How many pings before you lose your temper?
 
Reminds me of a similar incident at a local range. I was on the range when some idiot decided to shoot a metal post downrange. After the third "Ping!", the RM called a halt, walked down to the shooter concerned, and in a LOUD voice informed him that if one of his ricocheting bullets hit another shooter, he (the RM) was going to start shooting at the offending marksman. The rest of the session was rather peaceful... :D
 
MSgt B,

I’m sorry to hear that a good day at the range was cut short by some fool. :banghead: I’m not overly paranoid, but I try to shoot when I know the range will be slow. In fact, I’ve even passed on shooting if I suspect it will be busy. Maybe I am just a loner.

That being said, isn’t that a great little public range. I was there shooting Monday morning. Nothing like 75 degree weather at 10am in March! :D
 
This is what I like about shooting in my own backyard. I don't hafta put up with crap from anybody. I don't hafta worry about what some idiot's gonna decide is a target or where their bullet's gonna go. I don't hafta worry about ejecting brass hitting me or mine hitting somebody else, or any other annoyances. Plus, I don't hafta worry about listening to grouchy RO's with overinflated egos like most I've been around because I am my own RO. My Daddy taught me to shoot as a kid under similar conditions.
 
Chickahominy

I was there Sunday as well. Bulk of my time was over at the rifle side with a friend shooting his Marlin .22 mag.

Funny that you should bring up the iron posts tho'. When I was setting my targets up at the 25yard berm I noticed them, and there appeared to be many,many,many 'pings'. So there must be many stories out there similar to your's and your son's.

I don't have much time accumulated at ranges, and maybe I am not fully aware, but from what I have seen, people there do pretty well in regards to safety and behavior.

(There are meatballs that go there, however. Was there with my brother watching a guy teach his girlfriend for the first time a couple months ago. This guy was on either the 10 or 15 yard berm shooting an automatic 9mm poorly (some shots were not even hitting his target at all) then telling his girlfriend that they were not there for him but for her, as quote: "I already know how to shoot".)

What an eyeroller!!

have a great day,
cavman
 
If someone is firing wrongly, you need to tell them. Also, a .22 is not so great to be shot with. If it enters the body but doesn't have the power to exit, it just bounces around like a pinball game.

I have my own range & couldn't be happier. If I want pistol distances, I can arrange that. If I want to double-tap, I do it.:)
 
I got hit once with a richochet from a .45ACP during an IPSC practice session with the local club. I was watching the shooter and felt what felt like a slap to my leg. It didn't do anything to me, but was a reminder why I wear eye protection all the time.
 
At my local club, we shoot steel plate- .22LR and centerfire both- and I've had lead come back to me too. Yeah, it'll get your attention. What's stupid though is I told the RO this one revolver I was shooting shears lead and he needed to stand a little back from there; he stood where he damn well pleased and got bit and then acted like he was mad at me. Not like he hadn't been given fair warning. The guy has a tendancy to act really self-righteous anyway.:fire:
 
I shoot at an indoor range that is pretty slow when I use it so I have not had any problems. I have however noticed holes and craters in places where none should be and it concerns me that people could be that careless.
 
Flying Lead

I guess everything is relative.

I have been in an indoor shooting range (25 yards) about 10 times and on three of those occasions I have been hit with a chunk of lead that, I guess, has returned from the back wall. I thought that this was normal and not to be worried about as it hit with the force of maybe someone tossing you a rubber eraser.

Is it normal or not to be hit by flying lead?

thanks,
cavman
 
Chickahominy is the best range

I have ever been on. It's well worth the 40 min drive.

99.9% of the people there are considerate and safe shooters. I also try to go on weekday mornings when it's empty. (working 2nd shift has it's perks) just because it reduces time spent waiting for a cold range to change/check targets.

cavman and dk-corriveau, PM me sometime when you're headed out there.
 
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