Took two Chinese guys shooting
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I know you're trying to come up with a quick comeback, but you failed to read the original statement in context.
Most soldiers in this country are not there against their will. They're volunteers.
Make military service mandatory and you've got indentured servants for 2 years. Basically government slaves, as they have no free will about enlistment.
-T
Most soldiers in this country are not there against their will. They're volunteers.
Make military service mandatory and you've got indentured servants for 2 years. Basically government slaves, as they have no free will about enlistment.
-T
You failed to make the distinction in your original post, despite the context of the discussion.
Are citizens of Switzerland and Israel also slaves? Not to mention all the other countries with mandatory military service?
While I do not support mandatory military service, your statement could easily be seen as offensive by those who are in the service.
Many people read this board, and statements can be easily seen out of context... and yours was quite ambiguous, and could easily be read as saying that soldiers are government slaves... particularly considering the prevalence of "forced" militia duty in many countries.
Then read it again, I quoted his original post.
Yes, anyone forced into military service against their own will is a slave. Why did you forget to include North Korea, they're big on military slavery too.
Perhaps they should grow a thicker skin then? If they're volunteers, then they have no reason to be offended, if they're there against their own will they might nod in agreement as they probably have better things to do with their lives than be someone elses pawn.
I dont see any ambiguity in my statements. Let me recap for you incase we're still not on the same page:
my position is:
forced military service = enslavement.
Just because it is prevalent does not make it any less about enslavement.
-T
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dastardly-D
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Military
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I would carry the two year mandantory military and connect it to the right to vote.Too many sheeple in this country run their mouth and have all of ''their rights'' earned and protected by the military.If you don't put your self on the line, why should you be enjoying all the fruits of this country ? Yeah,I know,too harsh...........
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I would carry the two year mandantory military and connect it to the right to vote.Too many sheeple in this country run their mouth and have all of ''their rights'' earned and protected by the military.If you don't put your self on the line, why should you be enjoying all the fruits of this country ? Yeah,I know,too harsh...........
This is one of my favorite lies.
Rights are inherent. In this country they are infringed by, and under constant threat from law making bodies of the government (federal, state and local), and the infringement is carried out by police and courts as penalties (tax, fines, jail, etc).
To protect those rights you have to fight for them at the ballot box and in the courts, by stopping and overturning unjust laws.
The military plays no role in protecting my rights as a US citizen, as my rights are not under any peril from any foreign state. If the military was REALLY protecting my rights in the US, they'd be shooting anti-freedom and anti-rights lawmakers in the head when they try to pass any anti-freedom laws. They'd also be shooting police in the head for enforcing those anti-freedom laws. Since I've never seen any military acting to defend free speech or freedom to bear arms, or right to remain silent, etc, etc, I'll conclude they don't have any great role in preservation of rights in the modern US. Perhaps the last time they did was in the civil war or american revolution.
-T
Another lie. Service does not grant you rights. Rights are inherent, but frequently infringed upon by government.
Military service does not even protect rights in the US.
I do not take my rights for granted, hence why I understand the difference between freedom and mandatory government slavery.
-T
308sc
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how did this argument start in a "Took two Chinese guys shooting" thread?
dastardly-D
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Shooting cops ***
You are a real beauty ! I guess when you need help on the streets ,neighborhood or highway,you yell ''help,help,jitterbug come help me''. You're in it just to start crap.... You're not worthy of anymore of my attention...........
You are a real beauty ! I guess when you need help on the streets ,neighborhood or highway,you yell ''help,help,jitterbug come help me''. You're in it just to start crap.... You're not worthy of anymore of my attention...........
MutinousDoug
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Thank you for your service. Such as it is. Which is NOTHING. So thx for nothing, Tyris. This country owes you nothing. YOU owe a lot to the people who have served.
Orange_Magnum
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Before I moved to Florida from socialistic Sweden I pictured myself buying a Dirty Harry .44 magnum revolver. Once in Florida, two rounds from a Raging Bull made me rethink. The .357 magnum became my choice.
I have a recurring fantasy. In it the socialists themselves, both the politicians and their voters, see everything collaps around them in Sweden, and so they come floating on make-shift wooden rafts over the Atlantic for a better life. The politicians proudly call out, "We come with socialism!" But there I am, standing on a beach in Florida. I pick them, one by one floating a hundred yards out in the sea. The shots are controlled, well-aimed, all striking between the eyes. I speak out aloud while reloading, "America must remain free..." The sea is soiled red and I'm fine with that.
I have a recurring fantasy. In it the socialists themselves, both the politicians and their voters, see everything collaps around them in Sweden, and so they come floating on make-shift wooden rafts over the Atlantic for a better life. The politicians proudly call out, "We come with socialism!" But there I am, standing on a beach in Florida. I pick them, one by one floating a hundred yards out in the sea. The shots are controlled, well-aimed, all striking between the eyes. I speak out aloud while reloading, "America must remain free..." The sea is soiled red and I'm fine with that.
Stevie-Ray
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Wow.
Thernlund
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Tyris said:
As soon as I read that on page one, I knew immediately what was coming on page two. Good grief.
On topic... that's a great story. I hope I have a similar opportunity one day.
-T.
What on earth makes you think I'd call them for anything other than getting a ticket number for an insurance claim?
Its laughable to think they'd be there when I need them. I prepare for my own emergencies, and do not count on police to save the day. That is not their responsibility as demonstrated by numerous court cases. Their primary duty is maintenance of the status quo, and revenue collection. Thats it.
-T
I dont expect anything from any country. I dont collect welfare, I dont expect social security to be around when I retire.
I owe ex-military nothing as I paid their salary via my taxes, that is enough.
I see this military worship on gunboards a lot for some reason. I don't understand why, its just a job, they are just government employees, most do it for a few years and then move on to better things. I owe them about as much as I owe the guys at the DMV or post office. I treat them all with respect, but certainly not hero worship.
-T
Sistema1927
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Just what I was thinking, maybe something like: "And they fought among themselves to be the target holder."
Bada-bing!
Rosstradamus
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Ni hao, y'all.
That was intentional.
XDKingslayer, if you want to campaign for the draft, start your own thread.
Tyris, I blame you for taking the bait. How about you and XDKingslayer PM'ing each other and getting out of my thread?
CBS220, dastardly-D, NWHick, et al., join them.
No, but we got to expense it. The company paid. How cool is that?
That was intentional.
XDKingslayer, if you want to campaign for the draft, start your own thread.
Tyris, I blame you for taking the bait. How about you and XDKingslayer PM'ing each other and getting out of my thread?
CBS220, dastardly-D, NWHick, et al., join them.
No, but we got to expense it. The company paid. How cool is that?
esmith
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Order doesn't matter in this case, so why the hell does it make a damn difference.
scrat
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Ok back to the original post. That is pretty cool. Sound like you did a pretty good job.
benEzra
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I had a roommate from Taiwan one semester. My other roommate and I took him to a local shooting range, as he had always wanted to shoot a Colt Python in .357 magnum. We rented one--he had never shot a gun before--and he bought a box of .357 ammo. Went over the rules of gun safety, showed him how to work it, and he did fantastic. HUGE grin after the first shot, that stayed on his face the whole time we were there.
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