moooose102
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another "gustoppo" state. yipiee.
Rant about new gun law. Is this real?
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Izaak Walton
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It was enacted after Pakistani national Mir Aimal Kasi used an AK-47 to kill two people and wound three others stopped at a traffic light near the entrance to the CIA headquarters in Virginia in 1993.
No flame intended.
Isn’t this just like our govt?
Hey! Murder is illegal, now we’ll have to pass another law!
No flame intended.
Isn’t this just like our govt?
Hey! Murder is illegal, now we’ll have to pass another law!
There is no reason to get worked up about this trivial requirement. It doesn't slow down the buying process by a second. Most people probably use a form of ID that is only available to U.S. citizens or permanent residents anyway so they are totally unaware that this requirement even exists. The only people who would be affected are illegal immigrants and people in the country on temporary work visas.
Ron-Bon
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I live in VA, and when I brought my AK, I had to show my birth certificate
cambeul41
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Please explain. The last I heard those on student, work, and perhaps other non-permanent visas could get the most common form of ID -- driver's licences.
Please explain. The last I heard those on student, work, and perhaps other non-permanent visas could get the most common form of ID -- driver's licences.
To purchase a firearm from an FFL you need to show two forms of ID with the same address. A government issued photo ID (drivers license) and a second ID. In order to purchase an "assault firearm" that second ID must be something that proves you are a U.S. citizen or legal permanent resident. According to the Virginia State Police,
one of the following must be presented to purchase an assault firearm:
a certified birth certificate or certificate of birth abroad issued by the US State Department,
an un-expired US Passport,
a U. S. citizen identification card,
a current voter registration card,
a current selective service registration card,
an immigrant or registration card issued by the Immigration and Naturalization Service, and
a certificate of citizenship or a certificate of naturalization issued by the Immigration and Naturalization Service.
one of the following must be presented to purchase an assault firearm:
a certified birth certificate or certificate of birth abroad issued by the US State Department,
an un-expired US Passport,
a U. S. citizen identification card,
a current voter registration card,
a current selective service registration card,
an immigrant or registration card issued by the Immigration and Naturalization Service, and
a certificate of citizenship or a certificate of naturalization issued by the Immigration and Naturalization Service.
Roccobro
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I would never dream of taking my birth cert out of the safe, let alone to go to the gun store. And I live in CA!
Social Sec Num- optional
Birth Certificate- REQUIRED!
And you say WE have it bad here. SHEESH!
Justin
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Birth Certificate- REQUIRED!
And you say WE have it bad here. SHEESH!
Justin
SCKimberFan
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Home of Teddy & Barney - NO THANKS!!!
MD_Willington
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Drivers license, green card and if you still have one, Aliens Firearms License here in WA state.... but we're fighting to get AFL struck from the laws for green card holders... SOBs are licensing rights guaranteed under the 14th... no other state does this.
ClicStic
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The Virginia "assault rifle" law does not seem to apply to stripped AR lower receivers.
Gungnir
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Hmm...
My Wife recently bought an "Assault Weapon" (XCR she liked it better that a number of 5.56 NATO AR Clones, though not the FN Bullpup, but that was $800 more) in WA (I can't own/possess due to being a Naturalizing Green Card holder).
Requirement Drivers Licence, NICS Check, pay by credit card, done, same as any other long gun.
So is this a VA only law?
My Wife recently bought an "Assault Weapon" (XCR she liked it better that a number of 5.56 NATO AR Clones, though not the FN Bullpup, but that was $800 more) in WA (I can't own/possess due to being a Naturalizing Green Card holder).
Requirement Drivers Licence, NICS Check, pay by credit card, done, same as any other long gun.
So is this a VA only law?
jimsmith80
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no!
Having work for the past 3-4 years in a gun shop does not make me an expert on the subject; however it does give supprising insight. You will love this.
Most gun retailer, IE places that sell guns, make up, or missinterpet, or are ignarant of gun laws. That employee probly heard some story some where about "assult rifles" and decided that this is what is ment. Forgoing the fact that the sig 556 is not an assult weapon (I just could not get mine to shoot full auto no matter how hard I pulled the trigger!) It will transfer just like a rifle. The only change the AFT has made recently in this area that would be even close is that now a stripped lower reciver from an AR-15 can only be transfered to a person older that 21. This is because it can be built into a pistol.
These people simply are to ignorant to take the time to learn about their job. But don't feel bad because tomorrow they will be in the footwear department. It is sad that more than 50% of the gun shops I have been to; if you stand and listen for 20 mins, the employees will either lie, say something incorrect, or just make stuff up. Most people don't have the charerter to simply say "you know, I just don't know that one let me look it up." Instead they make something up, and "oh it's the law!"
Buggs me to no end.
as I am sure you can tell
Having work for the past 3-4 years in a gun shop does not make me an expert on the subject; however it does give supprising insight. You will love this.
Most gun retailer, IE places that sell guns, make up, or missinterpet, or are ignarant of gun laws. That employee probly heard some story some where about "assult rifles" and decided that this is what is ment. Forgoing the fact that the sig 556 is not an assult weapon (I just could not get mine to shoot full auto no matter how hard I pulled the trigger!) It will transfer just like a rifle. The only change the AFT has made recently in this area that would be even close is that now a stripped lower reciver from an AR-15 can only be transfered to a person older that 21. This is because it can be built into a pistol.
These people simply are to ignorant to take the time to learn about their job. But don't feel bad because tomorrow they will be in the footwear department. It is sad that more than 50% of the gun shops I have been to; if you stand and listen for 20 mins, the employees will either lie, say something incorrect, or just make stuff up. Most people don't have the charerter to simply say "you know, I just don't know that one let me look it up." Instead they make something up, and "oh it's the law!"
Buggs me to no end.
as I am sure you can tell
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