Raw venison

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I was having a debate with some vegans the other day, they told me that the human body cannot digest raw meat so we were never ment to eat it. I eat raw venison all the time, I don't get any digestive issues with it, they called me a liar! All I could do is invite them over for dinner LOL. Does anyone else do this or am I just some kind of digestive freak? (BTW raw backstrap cubes dipped in a warm heavly spiced red wine sauce=YUM!)
 
as most Vegi are, they are misinformed, opinionated and possibly stupid. (your brain needs fat and protein to be top notch)

What about before humans socialized and discovered cooking? Ungulates are no problem but never never eat raw bear. (parasites and worms)

I've had raw elk, mule deer, whitetail, caribou (my fave) and antelope - all delicious.

And doesn't Eskimo translate as "eaters of raw meat"? I remember seeing a family feast on No Reservations and they sat down and ate a raw seal, all of it.

Yer friends are just silly...
 
Long ago I tried the vegan diet for a month, I felt weak and constantly sleepy. So vegans hate me now because I have been down that road before and would never do it again, though I must admit I did learn a few new recipes doing it. I eat raw meat on such a regular basis that I am more arfaid of eating raw mega farmed raised vegies then the raw meat I get in the woods.
 
Actually, our digestive systems are SET UP for eating meat, raw or otherwise. It is vegetable matter, plant material, that we cannot get the full nutrition from without cooking to break down the cell wall. Cows have ruminant stomachs which is how they do it. We have only one stomach of 1 chamber, not 5 like a cow, and don't chew our cud. BUT, we are "smart" (other than vegans, anyway) and figured out how to COOK vegetables as well as meat. It's how I can eat pork without getting parasites. I'll kill it, then grill it, myself. :D

Another thing, there are two amino acids (building blocks of proteins) that can only be had in meat and soy. This is why vegans love tofu...:barf: Without those two amino acids, one will be mal-nurished in short order. Vegans often take supplements for the things they don't get in their diet for the lack of meat. Just how "natural" is THAT, eh? :rolleyes:

I'd hang out with someone that has brains, other hunters for instance. You don't want to start absorbing too much stupidity, right? :D Carnivores are ALWAYS smarter in nature than the prey animals, ya know. I have a T shirt somewhere that says, "Vegetarian ... Ve-ji-tear-y-an....A native American word for "bad hunter"" I don't know what I did with that T. It was getting holey I wore it so much, might have tossed it.
 
I usually eat most steaks/chops from red meat (except pork) on the cool rare side. In other words, seared on the outside, raw in the middle. No issues.

I wouldn't recommend eating meat that's been in the fridge for very long completely raw, because E. coli and some other nasties can take up residence on the outside of the meat, which is why I almost always give it a quick sear on the outer surfaces. The interior should remain relatively germ free.
Ground meat needs to be cooked unless it is super fresh, and you grind it yourself, for the same reason (surface bacteria can get mixed in).

The meat itself is definitely digested.

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I remember seeing a family feast on No Reservations and they sat down and ate a raw seal, all of it.
Eating raw seal liver can be fatal.

I don't know about seal, but the liver of some animals contains lethal amounts of vitamin A, so choose your offal wisely. :)

Jason
 
Slightly "medium rare" myself. Sushi comes to mind reading this thread, and i have tried raw beef before, and a bit of venison once, but prfer my backstrap fried, or grilled and wrapped in bacon
 
do they believe in evolution? Theres that evidence, or do they believe in creation? Theres that evidence, then there's the evidence that without man made products, the vegan supplies in many parts of the world would not support human life. Cant make much sense of that.
 
Interesting thread. I've often been tempted to try some raw backstrip. I think I will next time I have a fresh one. I'm thinking one that has been in the freezer might not be a good idea. I didn't realize this was a somewhat common practice.
 
do they believe in evolution? Theres that evidence, or do they believe in creation? Theres that evidence, then there's the evidence that without man made products, the vegan supplies in many parts of the world would not support human life. Cant make much sense of that.
Yeah, if you beleve in evolution you would have to beleve that we evolved eating meat like our chip cousins, and if you beleve in creation God gave us dominion over the earth and all the anamals in it, not to mention that whole "Arise kill and eat" thing. So they don't have a leg to stand on, and have to resort to outright lies like "humans cannot digest raw meat" Heck I am digesting some right now :D
 
The raw thing isn't very smart...
yesh, and YUCK
do you know what's in those damn things, read about the various diseases currently wiping out the over populated deer.

Oh, and insulting vegetarians won't get you far.
I would posit that I have met as many if not more idiot meat eaters as I have vegetarians
and that the people who actually know the most about nutrition are generally VEGETARIANS...

If you are going to eat raw meat, esp. wild meat, that is NOT PREPARED IN A WAY TO KILL PARASITES, you really ought to tell your doc, so you can get a O&P with your annual.
 
As I said I am more afraid of catching some funky bacteria from mega farm raised vegies. I have been eating raw meat since I was a child and have never gotten sick from it, while several freinds of mine have gotten sick from raw fruits and vegies. BTW the best nutritionists I have ever known are not vegans and actualy caution aginst it unless you are ok taking regular supplements.
 
Used to eat tiger meat back home with is a raw hamburger and seasoning combo. I lived and had no ill effects.

As far as vegan, vegitarian vs meat eaters......ya'll do what u do, as long as ur not raiding my garden........or eating my stock or pets........why should I care?

I just don't have the taste for most veggies which is why I would never consider such a diet.
 
I've found there are two types of vegans: 1) Those who quietly eat vegetables without judging those of us who enjoy meat. 2) Those who eat vegetables to draw attention to themselves and judge anyone who eats meat.

Having raised four kids, I've noticed lots of teenagers go through a vegan "phase", especially girls..."oh, it's just so cruel to kill and eat innocent animals". (To which I reply "I only eat the guilty ones")
A few months ago our youngest daughter had a friend visiting from out of town. She and my daughter came downstairs just as we were starting supper...some sort of venison dish. I asked the young lady if she'd like to join us for supper to which she replied: "No thanks, I'm a vegetarian.", to which I replied: "Hey the deer we're eating was a vegetarian too!" :D

Seriously, next time the vegans tell you that the human body cannot digest raw meat, offer to bring them a sample of the first bowel movement you have after consuming a chunk of raw backstrap so they can see that there's no raw meat in it. That should shut them up.

35W
 
Just give me a red hot knife and let me slice off a steak as the critter walks by. If you can do CPR and revive it. It is good eaten. Even so with water foul... Bear and pork will done please.

Nothing wrong with a good backstrap off the first kill of the season before you start packing out the meat.
 
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^ LOL, when they ask me how I like my steak I always say "so rare a good vet could bring it back" :D Raw venison is much more tender and flavorful then beef, backstrap melts in your mouth just like yellowfin sashimi.
 
Didn't know that many people liked it raw. I do like mine cooked a little bit. My favorite line when asked how I want my steak is, "Dehorn it and run it in. I'll take it from there."
 
^ LOL, when they ask me how I like my steak I always say "so rare a good vet could bring it back" :D Raw venison is much more tender and flavorful then beef, backstrap melts in your mouth just like yellowfin sashimi.

I was always fond of the line from The Cowboy Way "Wipe it's ***, knock off the horns and put it on a plate"

In my single days and before I moved out of my mom's place I used to get some fresh ground beef mix in some mustard or horseradish and put it on bread with hot sauce and miracle whip.

I called them barbarian sandwiches.

mmmmmmmm

Still make them occasionally when the wife is out. She thinks I'm in need of the men with butterfly nets anyway. :D
 
I do think humans have a bit of a problem digesting blood. If youve ever had a bloody nose and happened to swallow some of the blood it can bind you up pretty good. Back when i was young and boxed in school if i got bopped in the nose and happen to swallow blood id be patiently waiting on the throne for days. I know just recently i had a tooth pulled and the same thing happened.
 
We eat too much meat these days, even though it is very well researched and proven that humans are omnivorous, we are built from the ground up to eat meat and veg and seafood and all other wonderful tasties. There is no arguing with vegans - it is an extremist dogma.

But eating meat 3 times a day, or even once a day is rare both geographically and historically. In my region, meat was eaten typically on Sundays only, with leftovers being processed into various other foods through the week.

The traditional meat is raw ground horse. Served with a bit of cheese and balsamic. Or we have the traditional multi meat boil.

By putting so much meat into our diet we are contributing to our poor health, and creating also ecological problems. Furthermore the sheer scale of global slaughter and waste.....this is part of what causes otherwise rational people to tilt into veganism.

- the meat eater
 
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