Recent affinity for 10mm

[el Godfather]

Delta Elite is just awesome gun.

 

[On An Island]

I've been shooting a S&W 1006 for about 18 years. Love the gun and the caliber. It'd be nice to see it catch on a bit more. Here's a 'net pic of one like mine with a flat backstrap and low-profile sights.

 

[cdsdss]

I've got the original...

 

[el Godfather]

Very nice!

 

[PabloJ]

I have two G20s and am contemplating getting 3rd one. A true classic Gen II G20, OH BOY!

 

[PabloJ]

Very nice!

I have held one. Very impressive gun.....if you hit it with a hammer the hammer will break. On the other hand if I did that to my Glock the pistol would break instead.

Dare I say.... it's got only little less steel then Mega Star pistol.

 

[el Godfather]

Very hard to locate these. More of collectibles.

 

[PabloJ]

Very hard to locate these. More of collectibles.

You're not kidding. The one I looked at was in well used shape and cost as much as new German P210. I would take the SIG over that in a heartbeat.
It's frightening to contemplate what one in top shape would cost but I suspect at least $3500.
The thing seemed larger then the CZ97.

 

[SDGlock23]

I can't say much bad about the 10mm, I went out shooting my Gen4 G20 some yesterday and it was a hoot, the gun is really very accurate, the very first shot was dead in the center of the black on the bullseye. I handload for nearly everything I shoot which helps out immensely. Some of my favorite and most accurate loads are a 200gr WFNGC (over lots of 800x) that runs a little over 1,300 fps from my KKM G4 G20, a 180gr XTP (800x again) that does about 1,370 fps and a 200gr XTP (Longshot or 800x) that hovers around 1,250 fps.

Plus I've got a KKM .40 barrel for it, and it's got a long throat so no only will it shoot any .40 S&W, it will shoot long loaded (1.250"+) .40 S&W so I can use .40 S&W brass for 10mm like loads.

I really enjoy the G20, although it's not my most powerful Glock, that would be the G21 shooting 230-300gr .45 Super.

 

[cdsdss]

Let's just say it cost about as much as the used car I bought that same year...

 

[el Godfather]

Looking at your signature it seems like nice collection you got there.

sdglock23
You are right about the .40 conversion. Many people dont even think about it whereas it a wonderful way of keeping two very potent calibers.

 

[cdsdss]

I get bored easily. And I think of them as an investment.

 

[PabloJ]

I can't say much bad about the 10mm, I went out shooting my Gen4 G20 some yesterday and it was a hoot, the gun is really very accurate, the very first shot was dead in the center of the black on the bullseye. I handload for nearly everything I shoot which helps out immensely. Some of my favorite and most accurate loads are a 200gr WFNGC (over lots of 800x) that runs a little over 1,300 fps from my KKM G4 G20, a 180gr XTP (800x again) that does about 1,370 fps and a 200gr XTP (Longshot or 800x) that hovers around 1,250 fps.

Plus I've got a KKM .40 barrel for it, and it's got a long throat so no only will it shoot any .40 S&W, it will shoot long loaded (1.250"+) .40 S&W so I can use .40 S&W brass for 10mm like loads.

I really enjoy the G20, although it's not my most powerful Glock, that would be the G21 shooting 230-300gr .45 Super.

Yes, very good gun to have. Matter of fact if one was to own single handgun the only better option would be S&W M&P R8.

 

[Lagarto]

I have a G20 with a 6" barrel, a 40 cal barrel, a 357 SiG barrel. It provides the ability to use a varity of rounds if one or the other is not available. The 357 Sig really performs well on this larger platform.

I have fired thousands of rounds in all three calibers and had no feeding problems from any of the calibers out of the 10MM mags.

Additionally, I have a Glock 21 slide and barrel assembly that allows me to use of 45 acp
off the same platform.

 

[el Godfather]

Question
How to modify standard 1911 .45 mag to be used in Delta Elite?

Question
Underwood states that its ammo not to be used in Delta Elite. What other ammo cannot be fired through Delta, and does mean all Deltas or certain models?

 

[Lagarto]

I don't know anything about Colt's, but this seems to explain it fairly well:

"Cannot be used in Colt Delta Elite or any other firearms with rampless barrel due to complete lack of case support."

The barrels I use for handloaded 10MM in my Glock are all fully supported.

 

[ATLDave]

There was an excellent thread here about chamber support in the 10mm's. The Delta Elite used to have very little. http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=671004&highlight=what+is+an+unsupported+chamber

That's going to raise concerns about all ammo running at the upper end of the 10mm pressure range.

 

[el Godfather]

Thank you ALT

 

[Robbins290]

wished sig would make a 10mm

 

[silvermane_1]

that's a nice S&W 1006, love to get my hands one one of those.

 

[el Godfather]

My Delta's chamber

This is how my Delta's chamber looks like. It look not fully supported. However, I have fired only Privi JHP 180gr ammo through it. So far no bulging.

I dont know what the year of my Delta's make but serial number is DS08xxx.

Advice required on what ammo not shoot out of it and what is completely safe.

Thanks.

 

[Jitterbug]

10mm fans might want to check out the new STI Nitro in 10mm, it has a supported barrel and according to the owner of STI it is "timed" for the 10mm.

I don't think it's on their website yet, I saw a video review at Show Show over on the 1911 forum in the STI section. You might Google and find it on Youtube and the Firearms channel.

El Godfather, if it were me I wouldn't shoot full powered Double Tap, Underwood or Buffalo Bore out of a Delta, I'm not saying you can't, just saying what I would do. (Excepting Underwood's Delta load)

I've been shooting 10mm for over 20 years...I mostly make my own and only occasionally run it full bore, especially in my 1911 Dan Wesson CBOB....I do have hot woods loads but only run a few mags a year after load development.

 

[el Godfather]

Well privi seems not hot at all.

I guess hot loads need wait until my g20 Gen4 arrives.

 

[tarosean]

that's a nice S&W 1006, love to get my hands one one of those.

Better get on the ball as they have been skyrocketing in price..

 

[PabloJ]

Well privi seems not hot at all.

I guess hot loads need wait until my g20 Gen4 arrives.

It is not hot, but used to be <$20 per box of 50s which was impossible to beat and I wouldn't call 185gr .45ACP equivalent load weak. The brass is of very good quality and can be used for reloading.