Recoil: 12 or 20ga?

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I'm in the market for a home defense shotgun. Part of my criteria is the make sure that my wife is comfortable with the shotty, which means I'd like to minimize the recoil as much as possible. I am considering the following two Mossberg shotguns:

Mossberg 500 20ga (weight 5.5 lbs) (model 50452)
Mossberg 500 12ga (weight 6.75 lbs) (model 50420)

The 50420 is appealing due to the ability to adjust the stock length and LOP.

Based on the weights given above, will the recoil be less with the lighter 20ga or the "light" 12ga?
 
Go with the 12ga.

Have your wife shoot it using light dove loads. Look for 3/4oz shot loads in 7 1/2 or 8. Gives her familiarity and confidence. Then stuff it with reduced recoil 00 buck for HD.
 
my wife is 5'2" and i have a bennelli nova 12g 18.5" bbl with the mercury recoil reducer. (gun with upgradesabout $600) she can shoot that better than me more times than not
 
The Rule of 96 says the gun should weigh 96x as much as the shot load.

So for a 1-ounce load we have the light gun needs to weigh 96 ounces, but actually weighs 88 ounces. The heavier gun weighing 108 ounces when it only needs to be 96. The 12 gauge will be the softer shooting if the fit is the same, etc.

Now, for a 1 1/8 ounce 12 gauge load we have to multiply 96 times 1.125 to see what the gun should weigh. Heh, comes out to 108, the weight of the gun.

For a 3/4 ounce 20 ga. load (.75 x 96) the gun needs to weigh 72 ounces, but really weighs 88.

It really does depend on what shells you plan on shooting.

JohnBoyismathfunT
 
Given the same 'throw weight' and velocity, recoil will be greater with the lighter gun. It's simple physics at work, every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Recoil is reaction.

Don't dismiss the 12 gauge too soon. Choices of ammunition are MUCH more limited for the 20 than for the 12. For that reason alone the 12 might be a better choice, as reduced recoil loads suitable for defensive use are almost impossible to find in 20 gauge. And a lighter gun in 20 ga. will kick worse with heavy loads that a heavier gun in 12 ga. Might sound like a contradiction, all I can say is find someone who has the guns you are looking at buying and try them yourself.

Proper gun fit and proper form are BIG issues in recoil management for shooters. Many shotgun stocks are too long as they come from the factory for smaller shooters. MAKE SURE the gun you get is a proper fit FOR YOUR WIFE. It is far easier to shoot a shotgun with too short a stock than one that is too long, just remember to put your shooting hand thumb over on top of the knuckle of your trigger finger when shooting. The first time recoil causes you to bop yourself in the nose with your thumb in the usual position you'll see why this is necessary, and the lesson won't likely have to be repeated. I'm 6' 3" and my wife is 5'4", and we both shoot the same 'house guns-' Remington 870 12 gauges with 18-20" barrels, full length field type forearms, and stocks with 12 1/2" length of pull (measured from trigger to butt).

Form is important also, someone who knows how needs to coach you both in assuming proper stance, proper gun mount etc. Get some help on this one, especially for your wife. Unless you taught her to drive also, that is. If you taught her to drive and you're still married, you might just be able to handle teaching her to shoot. 8^)

I'd suggest you look into a Remington 870, just because the gun is a bit heavier than the Mossberg. Weight is your friend when reducing recoil is the issue. Shortening a stock is no big deal for a gunsmith, neither is adding one of several brands of premium recoil pad that the gun should wear (KickEez, Limbsaver, Remington R3, etc). A properly fitted all steel 12 gauge with a premium recoil pad and good reduced recoil loads is likely your best bet. But experiment around some before you buy, rent or borrow different shotguns and get some trigger time with your wife to help make the decision.

The lightest kicking buckshot load I have found so far is Fiocchi reduced recoil 00, stock #12LE00BK. Federal and Hornady ('blue hull' TAP) make good loads also.

hth,

lpl/nc
 
Lee Offers Good Advice

The lightest shells I shoot in 12 ga. are Winchester Featherlights. I've never weighed my guns, but I can say that, combined with any 12 ga. I own (the lightest being a Browning BPS), I have never found a 20 ga. load that is as comfortable in my Beretta 391, which is so light it feels like a toy. Part of the problem there, though, is the 24" barrel. Pay attention to barrel length as well, as a shorter barrel (in my experience) gives more of a push against the cheek than a longer one.

John
 
I bought the Knoxx recoil reducing stock for my 870, and it made a world of difference. Before I got it, firing a slug almost killed me. Now it is something I can do without any pain.
 
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