Recommend a Single-Action Revolver

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Of all the guns I own I don't have a single-action revolver in my collection, and I am thinking of adding one. I do not plan on shooting cowboy action or putting tons of rounds through it, but rather just to round out my collection, and potentially use for demonstration purposes for future basic classes I may be instructing. Since I do not know a whole lot about them other than how they function, what are some decent ones I should be looking at in the $500 or so price range? I would prefer either .357/.38 SPL or .45 Colt. Thanks for the help.
 
1. Ruger. There are several different models but all current guns have transfer bar actions safe with six rounds loaded, modern as of 1896. Hell for stout. Big and heavy, even the New Vaquero and Flattop.

2. Italian. Mostly Uberti, some Pietta from a number of different importers, all of whom will tell you they get the pick of the litter.

That is about it. Colt is way more expensive and USFA is gone.

Caliber. .38 Special is about the least expensive centerfire revolver ammo and .357s will give you some Zing. If you handload, .45 Colt is very versatile and the bigger holes in barrel and cylinder make for a better balanced gun. You can get .45 ACP convertibles.
 
I drooled all over Gander Mountain's showcase the other day admiring the Ruger Vaquero Bisley model in stainless steel with white grips, .45 caliber. The Bisley model, I believe, adds a bit of flair to the Vaquero, which is an excellent choice in its own right. Gander's price was $800.00, but it can be had from Bud's for $607.00, which I believe includes shipping. Whittaker's is offering one in used, excellent condition for $450.00 (.357 caliber).
 
Ruger Blackhawk "convertible", comes with two cylinders, one for 45 COLT and one for 45 ACP. Different barrel lengths available Saw one recently for $400 used but in new condition.
 
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1) Ruger Blackhawk if you want better sights (that is a tall front sight blade and an adjustable rear sight).
2) Ruger Vaquero if you want something that looks more like a Colt SAA.
3) Uberti copy if you want something that looks even more like a Colt SAA than the Vaquero does.
 
The 45 Colt Blackhawk comes with an extra cylinder that lets you use 45 ACP. The ACP cylinder supports the case mouth like in any semi-auto. I've had one for decades and the both cylinders give fine accuracy.

I have Blackhawks in 45 and 357. Obviously the 38/357 is cheaper to shoot, especially if you don't reload. If you do reload, the Blackhawk in either caliber lets you experiment with all sorts of power levels and bullet weights and shapes.
 
No disagreement with the comments so far, but a Ruger Single Six .22/.22 magnum can be a lot of fun, even with the present ammo shortage.
 
I would only add that if you're going to use it for class demonstrations, you should probably get two; a New Model Ruger and a Colt or direct copy. The manual of arms between them is diverse enough to warrant individual demonstration.
 
1) Ruger Blackhawk if you want better sights (that is a tall front sight blade and an adjustable rear sight).
2) Ruger Vaquero if you want something that looks more like a Colt SAA.
3) Uberti copy if you want something that looks even more like a Colt SAA than the Vaquero does.
I like the looks of the Uberti 1873 replica. How are they quality wise?
 
1911,
The Uberti made Cattleman series is an affordable Colt copy. The action parts are the same style as Colts (no transfer bar) so the instruction of/ the use of is the same. Nicer parts can be found in the El Patron series (except for the wire springs) and is a nicer "base" to start with to end up with a very nice revolver. I have (and carry) an El Patron Competition (sans wire springs of course!) with a 5 1/2" tube in .45 Colt/.45 ACP that fits the bill very well!!
Pietta offers some nice "upper end " Colt copies as well i.e. the Great Western ll . Not sure of the price range off hand though.

Mike
www.goonsgunworks.com
 
I bought a Pietta on a whim one day... it was calling to me from the display case. It looked like it had never been cleaned and I got it for $300. It cleaned up beautifully and has a wonderful action. Nope, it's not a Colt. Yep, it shoots great and it looks great. Not much to go wrong with these.
 
Captains1911 said:
I like the looks of the Uberti 1873 replica. How are they quality wise?

Both Uberti and Pietta make very nicely done replicas of the original Colt style guns. At one point Pietta was a little rougher and cheaply made. But at some point in the 90's they upped their game and most folks that like the Italian guns consider them to be as nicely made inside and out as Uberti guns. I've got examples of both and neither really has anything over the other.

A key point which Quanah raised above is that the original style "4 click" Colt action is a lot different from the modern Ruger action. When I was looking at single action guns I wanted something that copied the old original 1873's as closely as possible. So that put Ruger guns out of the running for me. My Pietta cartridge guns and Uberti black powder cap and ball guns have proven dead nutz reliable and a joy to handle and shoot over the 5 years I've had them.

Another key point to keep in mind is that the fixed sights on these guns means that you'll end up dressing down the front sight blade to suit a single bullet type and load power. If that won't suit your desires and you want to be able to shift from shooting accurately aimed .38Spl to full power .357Mag then you're pretty much stuck with the Ruger Blackhawk with the adjustable sights. Or the sole Uberti target model that has adjustable sights and looks much the same as the Blackhawk.

To my eyes the lumpy looking sights on the adjustable models take a lot of the visual value away. They are purposeful in their own way but they lack the smooth elegant look of the fixed sight models. YMMV on this of course. Beauty is most certainly in the eye of the beholder after all. But since you seem to be leaning towards the Uberti clone option it's good to point out the ammo limitation.

The sighting to ammo power even varies on how you hold the gun. There's a significant shift from shooting with the classic one handed hold vs a supportive two handed hold. So if you buy one of these guns first figure out what bullet weight and power factor you want and then how you want to hold the gun. Only with all that nailed down should you get the metal file out and carefully work down the height of the front blade to bring the point of impact up to your sighting picture.

And along the way don't be surprised if you find yourself grinning a lot at handling and shooting these guns. They are not the fastest things in the world to load and unload but with the correct method and a bit of practice they are no slouch either. The drills needed to master the manual of arms for a single action are just part of the fun.

Be sure to post back on what you get and how you like it.
 
For demo and basic classes, I would recommend looking at the Ruger Single Seven. It's not in your requested calibers, but the .327 Fed Mag will shoot .32 H&R, .32 S&W Long, .32 S&W and .32 ACP, all out of the same cylinder. The .327 load is impressive, and the others are very manageable and easy shooting. Great for basic classes and intro shooters.
 
Captains1911: ((( IMHO ))) You just can` beat a RUGER BLACK HAWK in 45LC. I have several Single Action Rugers most all in 45LC. But My favorite is My Old RBH 45LC/45ACP Convertible with the Two Cylinders and 7 1/2 inch Barrel. But the RUGER VAQUERO is top of the line, in my way of thinking as well. And after You and You Kids get thru shooting Your RUGER SINGLE ACTION. You can then give it to Your Grandkids. I really don`t think You could wear out a RUGER S/A even if You tried real hard. I started shoting them in 1972 and have never had a problem with any of mine. And my Son and I Cowboy Action Shoot with some of ours.
Good Luck On Your Choice:
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think ruger new vaquero birdshead
mine is in .45acp as i have 1911s as well
i carry this everyday now in a cross draw
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If you are not going to compete in cowboy, the most inexpensive SA Uberti makes will more than suffice. The Hombre is a rather ugly Cattleman but cheap. They don't spend time on the exterior. But it works.
I have become interested in Cowboy Fast Draw so I traded for two NIB consecutive serial numbered Hombres. Scotchbrite first to get the aged look. Grinder, file, then stones to hourglass the hammer spring and polish internals.
 

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I paid $525 with delivery and local transfer on a new Ruger Blackhawk .45 Colt / .45 ACP Convertible single action revolver and it is everything that I hoped it would be, and more. My Uberti Cattleman Hombre in .357 magnum is also a nice shooter with the four-click SAA style cocking. My buddy has a Blackhawk Convertible in .357 magnum / 9x19mm that is surprisingly accurate with all three calibers.

Lots of choices - be patient, shop diligently, and have fun once you take your first single action revolver to the range.
 
Please elaborate on this. Does this allow using .45 ACP in place of .45 Long Colt?

Thank you!
I have an older Italian copy of the Colt SAA. It came with a 45 long Colt cylinder and I bought and fitted an additional cylinder that chambers and fires the 45 ACP. Most of the time the revolver is used with the ACP cylinder.
 
I'm thinkin' you need a Colt '73 clone to teach the hammer down on the empty chamber thing in your classes. I used to be an NRA instructor and only had my Blackhawks which have a transfer bar system that allows one to carry six in the gun, something one should NEVER do in a Colt type action with the hammer mounted firing pin. Load one, skip one, load 4 is the routine.

The Blackhawks are awesome shooters, adjustable sights, very well made. But, sounds like you're looking for something more traditional to teach gun safety. :D
 
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