Recommendations for a 1K yard rifle and glass. Budget is 2K max for both.

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Thinking about 6.5 Creed. Prefer a factory gun as opposed to building. This would be for informal range enjoyment, not hunting or competition. Currently shooting out to 500 yards successfully on steel and paper with a Savage Model 12 LRPV (.223 ) and a Vortex Diamondback Tactical 4-16X40. Thanks in advance for any input and suggestions.
 
I know a guy that did a Ruger American go wild ($650+/-) and a Vortex Venom($500 +/-). It shot dead nuts at 1k… I’d personally keep an eye on the used racks… just saw a Bergara with a swavorski go for )1500… wow!
 
Tikka rifle.

For informal work just the standard T3. I had a CTR in 308 and my T3 in 308 was every bit as accurate and nearly 3 lbs lighter. The extra weight of the CTR might help you steady the rifle a bit better, but I didn't see any difference in mechanical accuracy. You'll save $400-$500 that could go toward optics. Of course, there is nothing wrong with the CTR. It's just that for what I do the T3 was a better fit.

The Ruger Predator or Ruger Precision is a close 2nd.

Once again, the Predator is just as accurate, cheaper and lighter. If you decide to go with a chassis style stock you can add one aftermarket later for less than buying the precision rifle.

I won't argue against the 6mm CM being slightly better for pure long range shooting. It is. But quality factory ammo for the 6.5CM is readily available. Not so much with the 6mm CM. If you don't handload that is something to consider. And if you ever decide to use it for hunting the 6.5 is the better round.

Not much help with Glass. SWFA used to make some good fixed power scopes. The 6X, 10X and 12X versions were pretty good. They made some with more magnification up to 20X, but much over 10X and they weren't very clear. Price was around $300.
 
Used Savage Axis II, Mcarbo trigger kit, Boyd's AT-1 Thumbhole stock , and spend the rest on the scope.
If you meant $2000 to cover both rifle and scope, this is the best way to accomplish a good setup. If you meant a total of $4000, you will have a great setup, money spent on quality glass is value added over spending it on the gun.
 
What size targets are you trying to hit at 1k?

We generally shoot at a 10" gong, which can be frustrating to hit when the wind is moving around, and can be frustrating to see when i plunk it right i front of a clump if grass.
My buddies hostage target (2-2.5moa) is fairly easy to see and hit.

Heavy rifles are generally easier to shoot, rifles with lighter/cleaner triggers are generally easier to shoot, rifles with stocks that are stable, fit you, and are comfortable are usually easier to shoot.

I can't think of a single sub500 dollar rifle that has all of those from the get go, but a number of 600-900 dollar rifles do.
Bergara HMR, and other long range variants of our popular actions. My dad shoots a Bergara Premier HMR which was 1300....would still leave you 7 for a nice scope.

Or go the other way and get a cheaper rifle and a nicer scope.

Under 500 id generally give up the stock to get a barreled action i can work with, and when funds allow add a stock.
I like the ruger Preds, Howa 1500s, Savage 110/10s, and Rem700s, all with heavier tubes.
An Axis would probably work fine, but need a bit more work.
The Patriots ive got are accurate, but a little too light of barrel for my liking.
You can sometimes get all of these on sale in a food long range configuration but usually your gonna be stuck with a base gun under 500.

Optics wise im pretty happy with all the optics ive used in the 350-550 range. My personal standouts are, Arken Ep5, Sightron Stacs..theres also cheaper optics ive been happy with like the Arken SH4 (lower glass quality), and USO TS12 (lower power, squishyish turrets, but great glass).

500-1000 bucks theres alot of good options, Meoptas, Athlon Midas Ares, Vortex Viper g2....others.

In that range, my personal preferences would be a Riton 5 Conquer or preferably a Sightron s3.

My Meopta HTR lists at over 1k as did my Conquer, similar models can now be bought for less than that tho.....

I shoot a 700 i put together from spare/used parts topped with a Riton 5 Conquer most of the time.
 
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There are plenty of good choices today when it comes to accurate factory rifles, but if the OP's intent is shooting 1k yards I'd bank more money on quality optics than the rifle. I know there are a lot of new scope brands like Arken, Riton, and other's that people rave about and are cheaper than other well know brands. They may be great scopes, but I prefer to buy scopes with a proven track record that track well and can withstand twisting the turrets over time.
The Burris XTR, Bushnell DMR II or Match Pro, and Sightron SIII series scopes would be my choices for a good entry level long range scope, or look at buying a used higher end scope for around the same price.

As far as the rifle, I'd pick a 6.5 CM over a 6mm CM. If you don't reload, the 6.5 has more choices of ammo to pick from, plus you'll get a lot more life out of the barrel.
I've never been a Ruger fan, so I'd look at Savage, Tikka, Remington, and Howa for a factory rifle. I'd also look at which brands are well supported in the aftermarket for future upgrades that you may want to do in the future.
 
I really like my Howa 1500s, 2 30-06 @ a 6.5CM, I know it is possible to go out to 1k with the CM but I've not done it, I have gone to 12k with the 30-06 with a Burris scope and have taken the other with a Nikon out to 700+. I'm looking for a donor 1500 now for a 6dasher or 6GT, I feel they are a little stronger than a R700 because of the lug and their HACT trigger doesn't need instant replacement. Barreled actions are available from Brownells reasonable and you can get whatever stock or chassis you'd like and easily stay south of 1k. I liked the Arken, Burris, and Vortex options when I was looking recently and I found a deal on a reconditioned Vortex so went that route.
 
Tikka CTR or the Bergara HMR. Both are great rifles. Id probably lean towards the Bergara just for the aftermarket that a Rem700 clone offers.

Optics wise Id look hard at a Vortex Viper PST gen2 5-25 or a Burris XTR II. Both are great long range optics in the sub 1000 dollar range. I have friends with both and both track well. Though, at least with my friend's examples, the Vortex had noticeably brighter glass than the Burris.
 
I bought a new Savage 10 TAC (the cheapo Cabelas version of the 10 FCP or maybe the 110 Tactical,) it's a decent enough rifle out of the box, with both the AccuStock and AccuTrigger. I bought a used Burris Veracity scope, and was shooting for about $1100 out the door. Mine is in .308, but it's the same rifle in 6.5, etc.

A lot of people recommend the Tikka... I have no experience with them, so they may be a better choice over the Savage... but I like my Savage.

Spend as much money on glass as you can... you DO get what you pay for. The feature choices are bewildering to those of us that don't have experience with scopes, I took a shot in the dark with the Burris... and am happy with it.

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Thinking about 6.5 Creed. Prefer a factory gun as opposed to building. This would be for informal range enjoyment, not hunting or competition. Currently shooting out to 500 yards successfully on steel and paper with a Savage Model 12 LRPV (.223 ) and a Vortex Diamondback Tactical 4-16X40. Thanks in advance for any input and suggestions.
You could re barrel/bolt face what you have and just add a proven 1k scope, such as a Vortex Golden Eagle. They sell on the used market for around $1200
 
You could re barrel/bolt face what you have and just add a proven 1k scope, such as a Vortex Golden Eagle. They sell on the used market for around $1200
Yes, I know that`s an option that I`ve squirreled away. It`s just that shooting this gun in .223 is so much fun, hate to lose that. I`m also considering just upping the load to 75+ grains and taking on the challenge of shooting a .223 to 1K, at least to start. Got lots of time before our 500 yard range is expanded to 1K.
 
Yes, I know that`s an option that I`ve squirreled away. It`s just that shooting this gun in .223 is so much fun, hate to lose that. I`m also considering just upping the load to 75+ grains and taking on the challenge of shooting a .223 to 1K, at least to start. Got lots of time before our 500 yard range is expanded to 1K.
You can always swap barrels back and forth on a Savage but I agree, 223 bolt guns are a blast.

If you like Savage, you can pick up another as their reasonable. My choice was Tikka as they have a great reputation.
 
I tried a .223 for F-T/R; a 6.5 twist and 90 gr VLDs were supposed to shoot about like a 175 gr .308 but they didn't at 1000. It would "hammer" at 300-600, though. The Berger guru said to load 80 gr and push faster to get the most range out of a .223.
 
I tried a .223 for F-T/R; a 6.5 twist and 90 gr VLDs were supposed to shoot about like a 175 gr .308 but they didn't at 1000. It would "hammer" at 300-600, though. The Berger guru said to load 80 gr and push faster to get the most range out of a .223.
I've not messed with the 90s but I don't compete. I did shoot the 85 RDF in my 18" 223 bolt gun at 1120 yards last year and tagged a 10" plate, purely for fun. It took 3 or 4 shots and the wind was pretty calm, only .8 Mils. Density Altitude was ~8000 feet which made it easier. It was consistent as I handed my rifle over to a friend and he made a first round hit.

I agree on the velocity. My 223AI sends a 75 Amax close to 3000 FPS. Shooting against a friend with a 175 SMK in a 24" 308, my hit percentages are much higher than he is able to get, and he is a pretty experienced shooter. I need to try the 80.5 Berger.
 
You can always swap barrels back and forth on a Savage but I agree, 223 bolt guns are a blast.

If you like Savage, you can pick up another as their reasonable. My choice was Tikka as they have a great reputation.
Tikka makes a great rifle, if reputation is any indication. If I were to look at another target rifle, the CTR would be one to seriously consider. I`ve had nothing but fun with my 3 Savage rifles and they`ve given me no reason not to consider another. They are not as smooth action wise as a Tikka, but they do indeed put metal where you point them. My Model 12 LRPV makes me look like a much better marksman than I actually am! It`s a hell of a rifle IMHO. I don`t hand load, so I`m somewhat limited bullet wise, and no doubt limiting my gun`s capabilities.
 
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