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My reasoning for hammerless: Less likely to get screwed up when out trimming trees and moving dirt. A bit of junk in between the hammer and firing pin could cause a FTF. And water entry. This will be for gardening and work around the property. Counter-arguments welcome.
Thompsoncustom
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I would say if your getting water in the gun from the firing pin/hammer area on a hammer fired gun than you would be getting it in the back of the slide on a strike fired gun. But of course every gun is built different tho I have never had a FTF from water in any of my guns.
I would say striker probably has a advantage when it comes to dirt and other light debris because everything is internal its more protected. But if you have a DAO or DA/SA and carry with the hammer down it also shouldn't be a problem.
As far as the best finish dan wesson's 1911's start with a stainless steel gun and then treat the steel for more protection and to turn it black it's kind of like a smooth glock finish over a stainless gun.
I would say striker probably has a advantage when it comes to dirt and other light debris because everything is internal its more protected. But if you have a DAO or DA/SA and carry with the hammer down it also shouldn't be a problem.
As far as the best finish dan wesson's 1911's start with a stainless steel gun and then treat the steel for more protection and to turn it black it's kind of like a smooth glock finish over a stainless gun.
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JTQ
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OK, we're making progress and narrowing it down.
What you really want is a striker fired gun, correct? We don't usually call them "hammerless" unless you are talking about a revolver.
If so, we can eliminate the CZ, SIG, HK, and Beretta since they all have hammers. You said you don't want a Glock, and don't like the feel of the S&W (assuming it was either an SD or M&P), or Walther. The Ruger SR has a mag disconnect safety, which you said in the OP you didn't want. Holsters for the Caracal, FNH FNS (or whatever their striker model is called), whatever Taurus models have striker, and Steyr M will be hard to come by.
Through the simple process of elimination, I think that leaves only the Springfield XD line of pistols.
I am not eliminating hammer operated. I will consider either. My bad about "hammerless". I know better, but I was thinking about hammers when I wrote that. If I could find a suitable holster the chances of debris could be minimized. And I am not sure it is really an issue. Just a head exercise. There have certainly been a large number of cocked and locked guns with high reliability and I have never seen the issue of debris mentioned. My head sometimes makes things more complicated that they really are. This probably has something to do with being an engineer and habitually looking at worst case scenarios.
It is indeed debris that I am concerned with. But a DAO fire from hammer down would mostly nullify that concern. My EDC is DAO, with the hammer flush with the gun (Boberg). When firing from a hammer down situation, I would generally expect higher trigger pull effort. There are those that pre-load the appropriate springs, so the effort is less than expected. So nothing is off the table at this point.
Thanks again for participating.
It is indeed debris that I am concerned with. But a DAO fire from hammer down would mostly nullify that concern. My EDC is DAO, with the hammer flush with the gun (Boberg). When firing from a hammer down situation, I would generally expect higher trigger pull effort. There are those that pre-load the appropriate springs, so the effort is less than expected. So nothing is off the table at this point.
Thanks again for participating.
JTQ
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OK, how about a Beretta 92 in a Bianchi M12 holster?
http://www.bianchi-intl.com/universal-military-holster-model-m12
http://www.bianchi-intl.com/universal-military-holster-model-m12
Rusty Luck
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I think you're narrowing it down to springfield XD/XDm and ruger SR9. I use a beat up XD service around my ranch. It's great.
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I'll have to say HK P30 V1 or the Walther PPQ Navy. One of the most water resistant pistols made today. It was designed to fire underwater. I know you said the Walther wasn't comfortable, but did you try the various backstraps? The added bonus for these two is you can usually get your money back on the used market if you decide you don't like them.
Ppq is currently my favorite gun and I do or have owned a variety of brands of guns. I have become quite the walther fan, so much so that I am thinking of a ppq or p99 in 9mm to keep my ppq 40 company. The only makers i can think of that I haven't owned that's worth while is cz and fn. cz is on my really short list and fn is on my list to own one day. The cz duty guns really have my attention. I have bought mostly polymer guns the last few years.
Chocolate Bayou
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amen to the XD!
The xd line is a great gun. That said, the FNS might be the most comfortable poliner gun I have ever held. All it took was holding one and it followed me home. The FNX (hammer fired version) comes with 4 backstraps of 2 sizes (do you prefer a 1911 or BHP basically).
Not the most popular gun, but very solid and a joy to shoot.
Not the most popular gun, but very solid and a joy to shoot.
IdahoHk416
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I would recommend a Springfield XDm 9mm. I have one, and it is my favorite full size 9mm. It has been 100% reliable so far through hundreds of rounds. The magazine holds 19 rounds, plus 1 in the chamber, the slide is Melonite treated to resist corrosion, it has no manual safety, the trigger is consistent from shot to shot, and the ergonomics are great.
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