Relinquishing Your Sidearm To LEO's At Minor Traffic Stops.

[david58]

If you are a LEO or have been ,only you know from a LEO mind set what you will do on a so called routine traffic stop. I have never had a routine traffic stop.My life was on the line everyday from the time my shift started till I got to home and that might be 8hrs or it might be 12hrs.The only one that was going to be sure I got home that day was me.I said to my self I was going to do what ever it took for me to be alive at the end of my shift that is what I would do.If I stopped a subject for a violation I didn't know if you had just committed a major crime such as shooting your spouse and ect.When I approached the violator if you show me your permit that only tells me that at that time you had a clear history.That could have changed 1 hour ago.I'm going to remove your weapon until such time as I release you and if everything checks out you will get it back.If you want to get in my face about it you can go to jail and I'll still get the weapon.If you think I did an improper search a you can hire yourself a lawyer and fight it out in court.LEO are threatened with law suites all the time I sure think I can convince a jury that I was concerned about my safety.

Simply put, I hope I am not ever stopped by you or one like you. I will comply, but you are simply wrong. Wrong. Treat the honest citizens like criminals, then criminals is all you will ever deal with. Such a life.

Do you realize there are other LEO's out there that do NOT share your position?

 

[LouCap]

If you are a LEO or have been ,only you know from a LEO mind set what you will do on a so called routine traffic stop. I have never had a routine traffic stop.My life was on the line everyday from the time my shift started till I got to home and that might be 8hrs or it might be 12hrs.The only one that was going to be sure I got home that day was me.I said to my self I was going to do what ever it took for me to be alive at the end of my shift that is what I would do.If I stopped a subject for a violation I didn't know if you had just committed a major crime such as shooting your spouse and ect.When I approached the violator if you show me your permit that only tells me that at that time you had a clear history.That could have changed 1 hour ago.I'm going to remove your weapon until such time as I release you and if everything checks out you will get it back.If you want to get in my face about it you can go to jail and I'll still get the weapon.If you think I did an improper search a you can hire yourself a lawyer and fight it out in court.LEO are threatened with law suites all the time I sure think I can convince a jury that I was concerned about my safety.

Amen brother.

Sent from my kick ass HTC EVO!

 

[Pigoutultra]

I wonder why police officers fear for their safety so much. Doesn't carrying a gun deter crime, or are of those studies on gun laws wrong. Just as any person isn't likely to go up to a person open carrying and just attack him all of a sudden, I wouldn't think that a CWP holder is likely, especially since they have no record of violent crime, to be so compelled to attack a police officer who is also carrying. And as I said before, if I were to make a citizen's arrest, would I be able to legally disarm someone for my own safety?

 

[Yarddog]

20 years as a S/O & now a armed gaurd Somthing must went down Hill, Maybey disarmed your sheriff
Y.D

 

[NavyLCDR]

Amen brother.

I'm not buying it from you, either.

 

[Sam1911]

So this debate ends as it always ends. Two sides, two views. One with 'authority' and one with frustration. Wide gulf between.