Reload costs Australia...you are lucky USA

[peterc]

After long break from shooting and reloading thought it was time to get back into this wonderful sport/hobby/obsession .....costs after a long break were a shock and thought you guys in the states may be interested in cost comparison!!Prices have been converted to US$ to make it easy.
Primers $40 per 1000 for 5000 buy lots up to$80 for BR per 1000
Powder limited range available $45 per lb - only 2-3 brands often patchy supply
Projectiles...two to three times what you pay per 100
Brass....double what you pay and only this price for large buys
Rifles....at least twice what you pay
Accessories......three times your price
Ammo....some good some bad.....Remington in bulk only 30 to 50% higher than what you pay for popular cal only!!
Rockchucker combo kit $$$600-650 US !!!! No bull!!
Hope you find this interesting. Regards Peter

 

[PieFace]

I thought I was only here in the UK who paid twice as much for everything as everyone elese did, it must be somthing to do with living on an island surronded by sea. Or more likely it is becase you still have a picture of the queen on your $ notes.

I just purchased a MEC reloading press, Layman Slug Mold, Mold Handels and a Universal Charge Bar from the US. It cost me $178 shipping, £41 duty when it got to the UK yet I still saved £70 ($120) from buying them mail order in my own country. At $7.50 US a gallon for fuel they don't call it rip off Britan for nothing.

PieFace...

 

[Jason M]

Not so much shipping, but the liberal anti-gun governments you have that make supply difficult. There is plenty of supply to go around.

I am glad you are able to find some deals here and there. Reloading is a great hobby. And I don't want to hear you Aussies complaining about reloading prices! You have Australian women!

 

[NCsmitty]

peterc, welcome to the site. At this point, the only advice I will give as far as costs, is that if you start shooting some of the larger bore centerfires, you should consider casting your own bullets. I understand that you have powder manufacturers there who produce some of Hodgden's powder. I believe it's ADI.
You'll find a lot of info here, some of it redundant, just pick and choose.

NCsmitty

 

[Remo-99]

peterc - yes i think ADI powders are the way to go for Australian reloaders, supply is fairly good and ya should be able to pick it up from larger dealers from under $30/lb. ADI have quite an extenisive range nowdays to suit just about any calibre, they have lots of loading data available to reloaders now, which they didn't in the past. http://www.adi-limited.com/handloaders-guide/index.asp
Also casting your own 30 cal. bullets for say a 308win would keep bullet costs low also, i say 30 cal because they are the easiest gaschecks to obtain in australia. I cast for .270win, but supply of gaschecks is very scarce here for that cal.

 

[Halo]

Perhaps you UK and Aus guys should move here! We can, in trade, export some of our effete urbanite socialists. In fact to sweeten the deal we'll throw in 10 of them for every one of you guys.

 

[MMCSRET]

I was in Perth and Midlands gun shops in 1985. Bought one of the fantastic little "Simplex" brand case trimmers with all the different caliber attachments, great machine, still have it and use it. Is Simplex still in business? I should have purchased one of the neat little turret presses, too. Also got a copy of Nick Harvey's Load Manual. second edition, Good reading.

 

[GaryL]

Perhaps you UK and Aus guys should move here! We can, in trade, export some of our effete urbanite socialists. In fact to sweeten the deal we'll throw in 10 of them for every one of you guys.

Great idea. Maybe we can get some of our northern neighbors to participate as well.

 

[SSN Vet]

we are not lucky, we are free!

as far as "cost" goes....

we have paid and continue to pay dearly for that freedom.

 

[peterc]

Thanks for your replies.
MMCSRET - to my knowledge Simplex is still available and I agree that they are good little presses. I used their dies when I used to form 17AH brass. Neil Harvey reload manual is excellent - there is now an eighth edition available. Highly rec. to everyone.

SSNVet - Australia is also free and we have fought hard for our freedom too.Many Australians have died side by side with your soldiers defending those freedoms. You are considered an important friend and ally of Australia - did you know that we are your only ally that has been by your side in every major conflict. Your constitution defends your right to keep and bear arms - make sure it stays that way and don't roll over if they try and water down your rights from another angle of attack. Sometimes when I buy components I think (as I walk out the shop with 500 projectiles) in the States I would be walking out the door with 1200-1300 pills for the same price - thats what I meant by lucky. Regards Peter

 

[Sommerled]

peterc- welcome to the forum!

As a former USN officer, a port call to Australia was a Major highlight that we all looked forward to. We appreciate the fact that a platoon of Aussie men are worth a lot more than a battalion of Frenchies when it comes to a fight! Us english speaking countries need to stick together!

Its stinks that one rampaging lunatic could cause a whole country to change it's laws so drastically.

Hope you get some rain down there and get out of that terrible drought.

Best wishes!

Eric

 

[PieFace]

You should indeed consider yourselves lucky. Here in the UK many of the hard won freedoms paid for in the blood of our forefathers have been slowly and silently stripped away. We have more CCTV cameras per square foot that any other country on the planet.

Firearms laws here are very strict and they only get stricter as time goes on. The irony is these draconian guns laws are not there to protect the public but to protect the government should there ever be civil unrest. One must never forget we won an empire via the muzzle of a gun and we also lost it via the muzzle of a gun.

Never let your countries become like mine. Here in many of our once great cities road signs are printed in Arabic or Urdu first with the English translation underneath. Moscs are slowly but surly taking over as places of worship and huge ghettos of Muslims have been crated by our left wing socialist governments.

 

[Halo]

Never let your countries become like mine. Here in many of our once great cities road signs are printed in Arabic or Urdu first with the English translation underneath. Moscs are slowly but surly taking over as places of worship and huge ghettos of Muslims have been crated by our left wing socialist governments.

I've heard there is a group committed to implementing sharia law in Britain, and there was some sort of proposal to allow a "parallel" legal system in Muslim areas. What became of that?

Sad to see what has happened in Merry Olde England.

 

[luis7]

Hello.
In Spain it´s expensive too.
For example:
1000 primers=46.5$
POwder 1 lb=75&
250 Cast Bullets=27$
Lee challenger press=67$
We have many reloaders laws and don´t buy this item with good prices because we are a little reloaders number and gums shops for to sells this item, but we are luckly to can reload at this time because I think that a bad future can become and it´s easy can´t reload in next years and only can shoot with factory anmunition (24$- 50 9mm parab.ctgd box).
We only shoot 22 lr, 32 sw long, 38 sp and 9mm parab with cast bullet, not fmj or hollow point
USA is a paradise to reloaders and shooters.
Bye and greetings from Spain.

 

[cliffy]

Hi Luis

Great to hear, in English, from Spain. My only language is English, so your being bilingual is a definite PLUS. Reloading supplies in the US are becoming pricier at an alarming rate. $22 primers have reached $30 almost overnight. It's all getting more expensive here. Gasoline is NO EXCEPTION. I count dollars merely to move my car from the garage onto the driveway. At least, I still have a garage. My property taxes now exceed $3200 a year. The cost of living seems to be going UP. I am retired now, so I really notice price INCREASES that strangle my purchasing power. The cost to heat my home is ridiculous, but I must stay relatively warm to survive. I fear we're re-entering the dark ages swiftly. Global-cooling is no joke, since it will soon engulf many of us Americans. cliffy

 

[Marlin 45 carbine]

peterc - out of curiousity about what price is a box of 50 .45acp 'standard' fmj cartridges there? not 'premium' type hp's, just regular mil-spec ammo. here they can be had for between 14-18$$, cheapest buying quantity (5 or more boxes of 50 at a time)

 

[peterc]

Marlin - .45acp is pretty much dead in Australia due to tough new laws. I don't shoot pistols over here (yet) so am not up to date on regs but you can only shoot up to .357/9mm on standard pistol licence. Basically big bores are banned - however cowboy action shooters are allowed an exemption that allows them to shoot 45 long colt etc I think they need to apply for endorsement on their licence. For your comparison a box of 50 Blazer 9mm FMJ retails for about $35 Australian...about $31-32 US at current exchange rates. Cheers Peter

 

[Marlin 45 carbine]

thanks for the info pete and sorry to hear the .45acp is 'outlawed' there. it would be good handgun round for hogs and such. price on the Blazer 9mm is nearly 4X what it is here, can be bought in bulk for 7.50-9 $$ US per box (case lots). some imported w/lead slugs even cheaper.

 

[Afy]

France is very expensive as well.
Probably at par with spain if not higher.
But hey... its a whole lot cheaper than buying factory ammo.

 

[Poper]

cliffy...

At least you got to retire. I'm 53 and it's looking pretty iffy right now for me...

The cost of living seems to be going UP.

Not really. Actually, the value of our money is less. (Fuel being a possible exception.)
If you watch the commodities markets, you will see the US dollar value in relation to foreign currencies. [I.E. Euro, Canadian dollar, Japan's Yen, etc.] The US dollar is near all-time low for currency-to-currency values. Unfortunately, it means (to us) that prices go up.

Example:
In 1890 you could buy a new Colt Peacemaker for a new 1890 $20 Double Eagle gold piece. You can still swap the exact same coin for the exact same Colt.

Just don't expect the seller to accept a new $20 bill!

JM2C - Poper

 

[rg1]

I have wondered why a U.S. shooter could not buy accessories, bullets, cases, and any other supplies other than primers or powder, and ship it to a fellow Aussie or European shooter? Any laws against the private shipping from individual to individual? Why couldn't a friend buy you a press in the states and ship it to you much cheaper than it could be bought there?

 

[peterc]

rg1 - some things we can purchase from the USA without import permit from govt. eg scopes,dies,reloading press etc and lots of people are doing this.....the only problem is postage costs which can be high (though you can fit a lot into flat rate parcel)and finding a business who will ship to Australia - lots refuse to ship OS. Why? Well sometimes when we find a company that will ship say Leupold scopes from USA to Australia the Aust. distrib. hears about it and will pressure Leupold USA to stop supply to USA client if they continue to ship to Australia!!! And we have a free trade agreement with you guys!!!For bullets and brass we need a permit from our state govt. which isn't that hard to get but we then have to find dealer in the USA who will ship to us. The USA supplier to Australia needs to get a USA permit (for bullets and brass) - I think this is simple to get but lots of people can't be bothered. A real opportunity is there for a FFL holder who would be prepared to deal with us Ozzies.....hope this is of interest to all of you. Regards Peter

 

[trbon8r]

we are not lucky, we are free!

as far as "cost" goes....

we have paid and continue to pay dearly for that freedom.

Don't be so smug. We are just a hair's breadth away from electing a socialist, if not outright Communist that will do many of the things to our liberties that our friends across the water have endured for years.