Reloading .44 Magnum

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I'm thinking about getting into reloading for .44 Magnum; tired of paying $40 per box for that stuff. I've never reloaded before, but I've heard that reloading larger calibers is much cheaper than buying factory ammo. I'm just a plinker, and don't need a large volume of ammo. I just want to save a few bucks.

What would be a rough startup cost for reloading, assuming I got something basic like a Lee Loader? And once I got it going, what cost per round could I reasonably expect?
 
One would likely end paying about the same, but shooting a whole lot more. Let's see:

240 gn plated bullet - .16
primer - .03
powder, this varies a lot depending on what you want to use - .02 - .04
brass - free range brass, buy a box of ammo and you have 50 to start with

.21 X 50 = $10.50 a box vs $40, its a no-brainer

Check your local garage sales, craigs list, the news paper for sale adds for reloading equipment and you can usually score something pretty cheap (may take a little while) with maybe really only having to buy a set of dies new. Then think about the highest price component, the bullet, you can cast your own for free with wheel weights from a nice walk along the road side. Pre-retirement, I used to walk about a half mile to a fast food joint once a week would pick up 5-10 weights a walk, especially near intersections where there were accidents or high curbs which would knock them off. Of course, casting molds cost $80+ and then you will end up needing a sizer. Just start slow, cheap, and you will eventually end up with everything you could ever need. Check the forums and you will often find people that enjoy reloading as much as shooting, and you can do it in your own house on your own normally down time.
 
I see that I just answered the second part of your question. A starter kit with everything needed is $175 on up. I borrowed my initial equipment from a few friends and within a year, I had found my own stuff on the cheap, then found a guy getting out of the gun hobby and bought all of his stuff including a progressive press, couple of scales, powder dispensers, and a large assortment of powders that lasted me over 5 years for $50. I've scaled down now to the progressive, a turrent press, a few single stagers, and casting basics for two calibers. The excess stuff was given away to friends and family getting into reloading. Good luck and have some safe fun!!!!
 
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A starter kit with everything needed is $175 on up.

Nah! Not that much. If the OP wants to use a Lee Loader (about $28 + whatever shipping and/or tax), and a scale (ya do need a scale - Lee has a perfectly fine scale for $25 - or an inexpensive digital scale for about te same $) he can be up and running for less than $60. Plus components.
Lee Loaders, though, are slow and noisy....stepping up to a set of standard dies and a hand press kit, instead of the Lee Loader, will cost about $80. So...with the scale, just over $100.
That, btw, is the progression that I took when I started loading about 30 years ago.
Pete
 
All of the standard instructions and warnings... get books, start conservatively etc. They are all in the stickies above.

I like cheap. But... cheap is not buying something, then needing to replace it.

I have a number of the LEE 'Wack-a-Mole' loaders, someplace... I haven't used them in 30 to 40 years. They do a great job. It is that other tools are less labor intensive and give more options and consistency. I have a LEE 'Hand press' and used to use it a lot. They do great, are inexpensive and best of all, use the same DIEs and other tools as a bench mounted press.

DIEs. 44s are straight walled cases. Straight walled cases are prone to scratching. The sizing DIE picks up crap (a grain of sand or carbon or whatever) and builds on it by scraping little unsightly lines in the brass casings. To keep from this, extreme cleaning of all brass and great care in keeping the lube pure will delay the problem. Only delay it, it is going to happen.
OR.
Get carbide sizing dies. Less need for lube and greatly reduced scratching potential. Carbide DIEs cost more but are worth it as a one time buy. When you pick you DIES, keep this in mind. Cheap is good but not here. I'm guessing someone still make steel sizing DIEs, I have no interest in them.

To the consumables.
Brass is a slow loss item. The hotter the loads, the shorter the brass life. I have .45 ACP cases that were plated and the plating has worn off and head stamps have pounded to the point they can't be read. 44s are loaded a tad warmer. I load two levels. One is my 'wimp' load, shoot all day with no stress and the granddaughters love it. The others (three of them) are brisk to damn. A good 95% of my 44 loads are the 'wimp' loads. Make fun of me all you like, all I need do is use a different speed loader and I'm stomping again.

Primers are a one time item, duh. MAGNUM may be in the rounds name but mag primers are only needed when the powder calls for it. This may sound stupid but, if the price of 'mag' primers is the same as 'standards' and you plan on using one of those powders that need or may need a 'mag' primer, just buy the 'mags'. I very seldom use or need 'mag' primers. Oh, so far the 'greenies' haven't invaded the 44 market, so most if not all are 'large pistol' size.

Powder, so many with (currently) so little to chose from. For soft loads, 231/HP38 is hard to beat. Moving up to stouter loads and heavy, 2400 is king. This doesn't mean that 'X' powder doesn't work as well or better. Yes, 296/H110 will give greater velocity but I think with less flexibility. In today's market, look at what is available and until you find one you like a lot, buy pound or 13 oz cans/bottles. It is much cheaper to buy an 8 pound bottle but what if it is not what you really like?

Bullets of all type and sizes. Lead is great. Cheap, functional, user friendly and did I mention cheap? Casting your own is very cheap but that adds additional start-up costs and more to learn. Plated bullets, I don't understand just what role they fill but many like them. Jacketed bullets. Pushed hard at max velocity, that is the true 44 Magnum. My hands hurt just thinking of it :) But for the cheap and functional, pushing a 240 grain lead slug at 1200 FPS is quite impressive, energy wise and will drill all the way through most deer. Load the same slug back to 850 FPS for a dandy target load.

Well, I have muddied the water a lot. I hope some of my babbling has helped. If not, I hope it hasn't hindered.

Load with care.
 
Its too bad you dont live closer, I would love to share my setup with another 44 mag enthusiast. The best part of revolvers is not having to search for the brass on the ground! Ive been happy with xtreme 240g bullets, and longshot powder. Definitely load them light for plinking. Mark any "hot" ones with a sharpie on the primer.

73 W1BUS
 
Reloading is just like any hobby with costs; you can get started for less than $50.00 in equipment or as high a $1,000.00+. I started with a Lee Loader, 1 lb. of Bullseye, some generic bullets, 100 CCI primers and range brass. I already had a mallet. I made up good shootable ammo for 7 months before I tried a single stage press (I usually loaded 50-75 rounds at each setting, mebbe a couple hours). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeEl9wZyabc I still have 5 Lee Loaders as well as 3 presses. As mentioned above your first purchase should be a good "How To" book; The ABCs of Reloading, and/or Lyman's 49 Edition Reloading Handbook. These will tell you how to and why, and the equipment needed.

Look at catalogs from Graff and Sons, MidSouth, Natchez, etc. for costs and what's available. Check Titan Reloading for Lee equipment (beware of Lee Bashers, a group of fellers that hate Lee stuff).
 
I know it's more expensive at the beginning but you could go with one of these:

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Hornady-Lock-n-Load-Classic8482-Kit/740228.uts?Ntk=AllProducts&searchPath=/catalog/search.cmd?form_state=searchForm&N=0&fsch=true&Ntk=AllProducts&Ntt=Hornady%20Lock-n-Load%20Classic%20Reloading%20Kit&x=12&y=3&WTz_l=Header;Search-All%20Products&Ntt=Hornady%20Lock-n-Load%20Classic%20Reloading%20Kit&WTz_l=Header;Search-All%20Products&avad=48247_e6fff385&WT.mc_id=al35987&rid=12&WT.tsrc=AFF

And get $150 worth of .44 bullets as a rebate free from Hornady. You'd have most everything you needed to get rolling except dies powder and primers.

You can also pick up a Lee challenger kit for $110, and that is what I started with. It has worked fine for several years but since I've moved up to a Hornady progressive for pistols, I kind of wish I had the Hornady single stage as well... It's nice stuff.
 
I'd go ahead and get a Lee bench press, scale and other necessary tools; it will do you from now on and be amortized quickly if you shoot a fair amount. I shoot mostly lead bullets that I cast myself and that saves $money$ but requires just a little more investment. Lee makes inexpensive, tough and excellent equipment including dies and molds.
 
Yeah.

I started with a Lee Loader, 1 lb. of Bullseye, some generic bullets, 100 CCI primers and range brass. I already had a mallet. I made up good shootable ammo for 7 months before I tried a single stage press (I usually loaded 50-75 rounds at each setting, mebbe a couple hours). http://ww

Yes! This^^^^^!!
Exactly how I started. Now......I own fifteen presses, upteen sets of dies....molds, lead furnaces, shot makers.....et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

I used to sit on the beach (Riis Park, just under the JFK APP/DEP airways) and size cases while watching the swimmers.
Pete
 
Extreme 240 grain flat points and a charge of blue dot or 4227 behind them. Great shooting load but it's stout
 
Just answered the same question in this forum

To get a MUCH better idea on what you need (or want), start with a good reloading manual!

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/106...ProductFinding

http://www.amazon.com/Lyman-49Th-Edi...A+49th+Edition


Lyman's 49th Reloading Handbook (their current edition) will run you about $25 or so.
Or you can go to the local library & see if they have it.
I live in a small town (33,000) & they have one.

That will allow you to ask MUCH more pointed questions.

To start you can go everywhere from about less than $100 to well over $2,000 on up.

But start with a manual to figure out what you want & what questions to ask.
Besides every intelligent reloader knows you need multiple manuals for best results. :rolleyes:
 
Bite the bullet and look to Cheaper-Than -Dirt, Cabelas, Hornady, Brownells(#1)- for a quality reloading press set up. Outlay will be under $300 for everything you need. That one cost will cover everything but dies and shell holders for the rest of your life. My set-up was bought in 1970, still in use, loads 20+ calibers, under MOA for every rifle I own, and is a source of pride. My loads have taken running deer at 200+ yards, feral dogs harassing my pets at 350+ yds, dozens of deer and hogs- it goes on. My .222 handload took a feral dog out at 325 yds, the 355 yd shot was .220 Swift. See what I mean?:)
 
I never tell anyone to take up reloading to save money.... :) Especially these days, it will take a long time to recoup the cost of good reloading equipment. Components are not so cheap anymore, and if you get into hand loading... well... you're going to spend money on equipment. I've been doing it a long, long time, so I probably save a bit, but most of my equipment was bought upwards of 30 years ago except a couple of presses and some more modern scales, etc.
 
Get a single stage Lee or a Lee Turret. Either will work. I started with a mallet, went to a Single Stage and a Hand Press. Still have the hand press, but now load .44/9mm/.223 on a Dillon 550.

You'll move up till your happy. :) I am thinking of selling the Dillon 550b to get a RCBS 2000. So there you go. It is always ever evolving.
 
no, problem with Lee products. some have to have the plastic parts replace often, but other than that, they make ammo.
i still use my lee hand press to de-prime and prime sometimes in the house.
 
Almost 60 years of reloading has taught me several things. Cheapest isn't always beat. Lee scale, for instance. Buy an RCBS, Ohaus, or Lyman. A single stage cast iron press will outlive you and you won't spring it sizing long bottleneck cases. You aren't going to save much in the beginning.
Dad and I loaded commercially for fifteen years and shot a lot. When he passed, little bro and I split the stuff up. I inherited some of it back when he passed. I load for and shoot most common handgun calibers, ten or so rifle calibers and three shotshell gauges.
At last count I had one C press, four turrets, two progressives, five shotshell presses, three scales, four measures, and three subsidizes and about fifty moulds with dies. Not bragging, just showing how the stuff accumulated. I could do fine with a tenth of the stuff but most came from closeouts, swap meets, and reduces setup and changeover time.
I prefer Lyman, rcbs, Redding, and Dillon but do have some Lee stuff. It works but some of it is fragile or takes too much fiddling to make it work. Their use of the word "perfect" irritates the check out of me.
 
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JLDickmon said:
shoot, that aluminum Lee C-frame press is only $30-ish from Midway.. cheaper than a set of RCBS dies..
Goodness! Please do not waste your $30-ish on this press.

I bought one for my sister to give me last Christmas. I have a single purpose in mind: bullet seating. I have never liked the idea of seating & crimping being accomplished at the same time.

This aluminum Lee C-frame handles bullet seating, but I would not trust it for anything more strenuous.
 
Almost 60 years of reloading has taught me several things. Cheapest isn't always beat. Lee scale, for instance. Buy an RCBS, Ohaus, or Lyman. A single stage cast iron press will outlive you and you won't spring it sizing long bottleneck cases. You aren't going to save much in the beginning.
Dad and I loaded commercially for fifteen years and shot a lot. When he passed, little bro and I split the stuff up. I inherited some of it back when he passed. I load for and shoot most common handgun calibers, ten or so rifle calibers and three shotshell gauges.
At last count I had one C press, four turrets, two progressives, five bombshell presses, three scales, four measures, and three subsidizes and about fifty moulds with dies. Not bragging, just showing how the stuff accumulated. I could do fine with a tenth of the stuff but most came from closeouts, swap meets, and reduces setup and changeover time.
I prefer Lyman, rcbs, Redding, and Dillon but do have some Lee stuff. It works but some of it is fragile or takes too much fiddling to make it work. Their use of the word "perfect" irritates the check out of me.
My Lee scale had to bail me out when my RCBS 10/10 would not return to zero . It was only used once and I bought it new . I do like the RCBS better if it would work . I sent it back to RCBS and their CS was good .
 
10-4 on the Lee Scale. I never had any luck with it being able to duplicate the weight. I chunked it so no one would ever use it.
 
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