Reloading a Single Action Revolver (Your thoughts)

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I don't want to get into a semi-auto vs SA revolver, or DA vs SA revolver debate. Both are obviously faster for reloading, and there is no doubt about that. But there are still some of us who carry SA revolvers - particularly in the field; for hiking, camping, etc - and I'd like to share thoughts on it with anyone who's interested.

It seems unlikely during a violent confrontation with either man or beast, that a reload is going to be practical, at least without retreat and cover or concealment (and yes, I mean hiding). But even if the threat is down, even out, in a place far from a rapid LE response, I think we'd all like to reload our firearms quickly and efficiently, if possible.

Though the concept of a free spin pawl is new to me, it seems a good addition to those SA sixguns that will accept it. It allows the user to remove an empty, load a new cartridge, and spin that chamber back towards the barrel. Because it can do this, it seems more likely to me that no matter how many fresh rounds I get into the gun, I can make them available more surely and more quickly. This is because at any time in the reloading process, the cylinder can be rotated two (actually two and a half) chambers back and the gate close. This now means the last round loaded, and any and all subsequent rounds, are lined up in order, to be fired. But it is taking me a little work to get used to reloading one at a time, and in reverse.

Others have previously mentioned this: A speed strip (I like the tail cut off), can be quite effectly used with the magnum length cartridges (possibly shorter lengths too), to load the chambers. It also helps keep all 6 rounds together in hand. I like to do the first 3, then turn the strip (hence removing the tail) to do the last 3.

I suppose partial reloads could be made during a momentary break in a conflict, but this seems like a tricky proposition. And one that I'm confident I would fumble on. Perhaps others know more.

If you have any interest, jump on in and we'll talk about it. :)
 
If you run a traditional semiauto round (32 auto, 9, 40, 10mm, 45acp) through a SA revolver, you can use a magazine for a semiauto pistol.

I've found the speed strip cumbersome, but do need more practice reloading at speed.
 
If you run a traditional semiauto round (32 auto, 9, 40, 10mm, 45acp) through a SA revolver, you can use a magazine for a semiauto pistol.
I was going to suggest this as well. Except that you can use Desert Eagle magazines for .357, .41, and .44 Magnums.

The inexpensive aftermarket mags don’t always run well in the big autoloader, but should work fine as a single-action speedloader.
 
What is this thread going to be about? The fact that a DA/SA revolver is easier to reload, or that a semi-auto is easier? This is listed under the revolver forum, and the OP says "there are still some of us who carry SA revolvers - particularly in the field; for hiking, camping, etc ". Are we trying to justify the SA revolver, or not? Or trying to say something else? My SA revolver does not allow a speed strip, because the cylinder does not swing free. But my DA/SA ones do allow its use, so is the debate among them vs semi's, or what? Color me confused, at best.
 
If you run a traditional semiauto round (32 auto, 9, 40, 10mm, 45acp) through a SA revolver, you can use a magazine for a semiauto pistol.

Interesting concept.

Never really thought about having to do a complete or tactical reload for an SA, my general reload method is to just kick out all the empties, then reload. If you weren't worried about catching the brass it would probably be as fast as any other way, at least for an SA. I've found I spend more time fumbling to get more rounds out of my belt loops than actually loading the pistol. Something like a bullet cuff would put the rounds where you needed them.

Following SA's post above, it would be interesting to design a 6-round box magazine feeder thingy you could carry... butt it up to the loading gate and push the cartridges in with your thumb via a side lever.
 
when i carry my BH loaded with .9mm, I keep an EC9S mag with me for speed loading. If im carrying it as a .357, I just do the dump pouch thing. Truth be told, i probably couldnt reload a bottom feeder in a high stress situation. Hopefully 6 will get me out of a jam long enough to fumble with cartridges.
 
If I were going to carry a SA revolver I would carry a "Mexican reload." i.e., a backup weapon.

Very sensible. I also carry a fixed blade knife when I'm hiking. And I suspect being hit in the head by an unloaded single action revolver would be bad for anyone so unlucky.

If you think you're going to need a fast reload, get a more modern gun. It's very simple really.

Yep. Good thought. But what if you don't think you'll need a fast reload, and would like to speed up your slow SA revolver reload just in case? Any thoughts?
 
I was going to suggest this as well. Except that you can use Desert Eagle magazines for .357, .41, and .44 Magnums.

The inexpensive aftermarket mags don’t always run well in the big autoloader, but should work fine as a single-action speedloader.

I just went to Midway and bought a pro mag Desert Eagle magazine in .44 mag. Perhaps .41 will fit in it too, well enough for this purpose. This will be interesting.
 
Some of the responses in this thread...

Response: "Get another gun."
OP: "No."
Thread: "..."
Me: LOL

There are different methods to reloading SAA's (other single action guns have their own).
I offer a few:

Get shells out:
1. Keep the grip hand in place, rotate and kick out shells with the left.
2. hold the gun, rotate the cylinder with left hand, run ejector rod with right hand.

Get shells in:
1. after reload, reposition the right hand to rotate the cylinder and left to drop in shells
2. Hold the gun and rotate cylinder with left hand, drop shells in with the right.

One feature of an SAA that helps reloading is that you can pretty much hold 3-6 cartridges in you hand at one time.
The design of the loading gate means you can pretty much drop them in one after another.
Lining up the holes isn't as difficult because of the funnel like loading gate.
 
Some of the responses in this thread...

Response: "Get another gun."
OP: "No."
Thread: "..."
Me: LOL

It's not just you laughing, I'm right there with yah! :D

Honestly, if I think I'm going to need a fast reload, I have two modes of thought:

1. Take my Redhawk, a GP100, or any of my semi-autos (depending on where I'm going).

2. "If I need a fast reload....that means I'm going to be defending myself with lethal force. Yeah, I'm sitting this one out."
 
Traditional SA revolver (Colt) is the easiest to reload IMHO because you don't need to look at the cylinder or feel for the chambers to eject the empties....simply rotate until it clicks then slightly backwards where the hand will then hold the cylinder in the perfect position for the rod to punch 'em out. Ruger and others with 'free spin' cylinders are harder and take more dexterity (or visual input) to eject as quickly, and then recharging the chambers the same technique works fine and favors the SAA Colt design. At least that's what I've come to believe....and why I have a Schofield with speed-loaders if I want to be really fast with a SA.:)
 
Historically, at least the Colt Single Action Army and 1875 Remington indexed on the loading gate. With the exception of the Flat Tops, the Ruger NM Blackhawks and Super Blackhawks don't do that and are tricky to load and unload. My pick for a SA carry then would be a 44 Special Flat Top. I find the Flat Top grip unsuitable for the power of 41 Mag or 44 Mag versions.
 
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Yeah, I'm sitting this one out

Honestly, I don't understand why all the discontent... It's an honest point of discussion. We could very well have the same discussion about fast reloads with a DA revolver... although certainly much faster than the SA, there is more than one way to skin a cat.

The first thing I want to do when I shoot a pistol dry... and that's any pistol or revolver... is reload it, whether someone is shooting back, something is gnawing my leg off, or the B29 is still standing there defiantly.

When I first became interested in firearms, someone made a 'speedloader' setup for tubular .22 rifles. Crazy as it sounds, I'll bet they sold some. Someone even made a speedloader for shotguns... A quick and handy reload is of interest to most anyone.
 
Honestly, I don't understand why all the discontent... It's an honest point of discussion. We could very well have the same discussion about fast reloads with a DA revolver... although certainly much faster than the SA, there is more than one way to skin a cat.

The first thing I want to do when I shoot a pistol dry... and that's any pistol or revolver... is reload it, whether someone is shooting back, something is gnawing my leg off, or the B29 is still standing there defiantly.

When I first became interested in firearms, someone made a 'speedloader' setup for tubular .22 rifles. Crazy as it sounds, I'll bet they sold some. Someone even made a speedloader for shotguns... A quick and handy reload is of interest to most anyone.

I agree. I heard something on a TV show once that stuck with me, but it probably came from elsewhere first. "There's nothing so useless as an empty gun." Or words to that effect.
 
I have a different approach. It's still slow, of course. I have fingernail-notches at the back of the cylinder. Hold the gun in the left hand, dump six rounds into the right, flick an empty out with a nail then reload the chamber. Rinse and repeat. Even hot loads don't stick in the chambers of my gun, so it works pretty well. Never timed it of course, but it's not super-fast. It does seem faster than using the ejector on a stock gun though.

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I like the tube loader thing. I suppose you can make one out of the case feeder tubes on a progressive press.
 
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