Relocating to FL

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So I'm relocating to FL in the next few months, I have a great new job opportunity there. Just wondering if there's any gun laws I need to know about. I'm moving from Kansas which is a very free state and I know FL is pretty gun friendly also. I think there were some red flag laws passed a few years ago after the school shooting but was it knocked down by the courts? Also along those lines, did they try to ban AR style rifles there after that event? If you live in Florida or are up to date with it, I would love your input. Thanks everyone!
 
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I give the gunshine state an A-. Shall issue for CCW, easy process to obtain the permit, no weird laws about magazines or scary looking guns, as NFA friendly as one could hope for, and suppressors are legal for hunting. No crazy ammunition laws either. There are a few that I think are stupid, though:
1- open carry is generally illegal, unless involved in certain outdoor activities (hunting, hiking, etc.). I don't like this personally because I can get in trouble for riding a motorcycle and if my jacket blows and exposes a handgun on my belt, this can cause me a problem should I lose at "cop roulette".
2- I can go to an establishment (like hooters, for example) to have my chicken wings and sweet tea lunch and watch a game on TV. I'm not allowed to carry my CCW gun if I sit at the bar, but I can do so sitting at a table in the same room.
3- Its OK to hunt deer with a semiauto rifle in any centerfire caliber, but there is a 5 rd magazine limit. I don't need 6 or more rounds to shoot a deer, and I really don't think a deer is going to hang out long enough to fire 6 or more rounds at it. But it is a pain to have to buy 5 round mags for my AR15 and AR10 to be compliant with this stupid law.
 
there were some red flag laws passed a few years ago after the school shooting but was it knocked down by the courts?
No, protection orders are still in place, the age to buy a long gun raised to 21, three business day wait also applies to all guns.

The three-day wait is waived if you have a concealed weapon or firearm license.

In Florida concealed carry means you carry concealed – no guns on car seats or otherwise visible in a car, even with a concealed weapon or firearm license.

Those with a concealed weapon or firearm license may keep a firearm in his car on his employer’s property even if the employer prohibits guns on the company’s property; indeed, employers are not allowed to ask if you have a gun in your car.

Private property owners likewise can’t prohibit you from keeping a gun in your car on their property if you have a concealed weapon or firearm license.
 
There was an attempt to ban assault weapons a few years ago via a proposed constitutional amendment. It keeps getting shot down by the Florida Supreme Court and or not getting enough signatures.

If we have one problem in this state it’s that our state constitution is too easy to amend.

However the more time goes on the more unlikely any type of assault weapon ban seems as Florida becomes more and more conservative (AKA liberal in the classic sense of the word) / right wing thanks to people like you moving to this state.

I would absolutely buy a copy of Jon Gutmacher’s book “Florida Firearms: Law, Use & Ownership”. It will be worth every penny!

Happy to have you here in Florida! It’s a wonderful state and seems to only be getting better!

Dan
 
I've been here, 20 miles east of the "House of the Mouse," for 42 years. Compared to NJ that I left behind it's heaven.
1) Keep your gun covered.
2) Don't get stupid drunk, pull your piece waving it around shouting "Nobody better mess with me!!!"
3) Welcome. You said you are coming here with a job. Thank you, only about 1 in 5 people work here any more. Joe
 
Those with a concealed weapon or firearm license may keep a firearm in his car on his employer’s property even if the employer prohibits guns on the company’s property; indeed, employers are not allowed to ask if you have a gun in your car.

For about 2 weeks or so I worked at a nursing home in my town in FL. During orientation they specifically stated that they forbade anyone from having a firearm in their car if parked on their property, and if did it was grounds to be fired. They also claimed the right to search your car if they believed you have a fun in it.
 
Some parts are kinda Liberal leaning but still called the Gunshine state for a reason. Hillsborough County requires 5 days waiting unless your a CWP carrier. It's really not hard to get a CWP I'm FL
 
For about 2 weeks or so I worked at a nursing home in my town in FL. During orientation they specifically stated that they forbade anyone from having a firearm in their car if parked on their property, and if did it was grounds to be fired. They also claimed the right to search your car if they believed you have a fun in it.

They cannot prohibit anyone from having a firearm in their vehicle in the parking lot. And they cannot fire you for such thing either.


1790.251 Protection of the right to keep and bear arms in motor vehicles for self-defense and other lawful purposes; prohibited acts; duty of public and private employers; immunity from liability; enforcement.—
(1) SHORT TITLE.—This section may be cited as the “Preservation and Protection of the Right to Keep and Bear Arms in Motor Vehicles Act of 2008.”
(2) DEFINITIONS.—As used in this section, the term:
(a) “Parking lot” means any property that is used for parking motor vehicles and is available to customers, employees, or invitees for temporary or long-term parking or storage of motor vehicles.
(b) “Motor vehicle” means any automobile, truck, minivan, sports utility vehicle, motor home, recreational vehicle, motorcycle, motor scooter, or any other vehicle operated on the roads of this state and required to be registered under state law.
(c) “Employee” means any person who possesses a valid license issued pursuant to s. 790.06 and:
1. Works for salary, wages, or other remuneration;
2. Is an independent contractor; or
3. Is a volunteer, intern, or other similar individual for an employer.
(d) “Employer” means any business that is a sole proprietorship, partnership, corporation, limited liability company, professional association, cooperative, joint venture, trust, firm, institution, or association, or public sector entity, that has employees.
(e) “Invitee” means any business invitee, including a customer or visitor, who is lawfully on the premises of a public or private employer.

As used in this section, the term “firearm” includes ammunition and accoutrements attendant to the lawful possession and use of a firearm.

(3) LEGISLATIVE INTENT; FINDINGS.—This act is intended to codify the long-standing legislative policy of the state that individual citizens have a constitutional right to keep and bear arms, that they have a constitutional right to possess and keep legally owned firearms within their motor vehicles for self-defense and other lawful purposes, and that these rights are not abrogated by virtue of a citizen becoming a customer, employee, or invitee of a business entity. It is the finding of the Legislature that a citizen’s lawful possession, transportation, and secure keeping of firearms and ammunition within his or her motor vehicle is essential to the exercise of the fundamental constitutional right to keep and bear arms and the constitutional right of self-defense. The Legislature finds that protecting and preserving these rights is essential to the exercise of freedom and individual responsibility. The Legislature further finds that no citizen can or should be required to waive or abrogate his or her right to possess and securely keep firearms and ammunition locked within his or her motor vehicle by virtue of becoming a customer, employee, or invitee of any employer or business establishment within the state, unless specifically required by state or federal law.
(4) PROHIBITED ACTS.—No public or private employer may violate the constitutional rights of any customer, employee, or invitee as provided in paragraphs (a)-(e):
(a) No public or private employer may prohibit any customer, employee, or invitee from possessing any legally owned firearm when such firearm is lawfully possessed and locked inside or locked to a private motor vehicle in a parking lot and when the customer, employee, or invitee is lawfully in such area.
(b) No public or private employer may violate the privacy rights of a customer, employee, or invitee by verbal or written inquiry regarding the presence of a firearm inside or locked to a private motor vehicle in a parking lot or by an actual search of a private motor vehicle in a parking lot to ascertain the presence of a firearm within the vehicle. Further, no public or private employer may take any action against a customer, employee, or invitee based upon verbal or written statements of any party concerning possession of a firearm stored inside a private motor vehicle in a parking lot for lawful purposes. A search of a private motor vehicle in the parking lot of a public or private employer to ascertain the presence of a firearm within the vehicle may only be conducted by on-duty law enforcement personnel, based upon due process and must comply with constitutional protections.
(c) No public or private employer shall condition employment upon either:
1. The fact that an employee or prospective employee holds or does not hold a license issued pursuant to s. 790.06; or
2. Any agreement by an employee or a prospective employee that prohibits an employee from keeping a legal firearm locked inside or locked to a private motor vehicle in a parking lot when such firearm is kept for lawful purposes.
(d) No public or private employer shall prohibit or attempt to prevent any customer, employee, or invitee from entering the parking lot of the employer’s place of business because the customer’s, employee’s, or invitee’s private motor vehicle contains a legal firearm being carried for lawful purposes, that is out of sight within the customer’s, employee’s, or invitee’s private motor vehicle.
(e) No public or private employer may terminate the employment of or otherwise discriminate against an employee, or expel a customer or invitee for exercising his or her constitutional right to keep and bear arms or for exercising the right of self-defense as long as a firearm is never exhibited on company property for any reason other than lawful defensive purposes.
This subsection applies to all public sector employers, including those already prohibited from regulating firearms under the provisions of s. 790.33.

(5) DUTY OF CARE OF PUBLIC AND PRIVATE EMPLOYERS; IMMUNITY FROM LIABILITY.—
(a) When subject to the provisions of subsection (4), a public or private employer has no duty of care related to the actions prohibited under such subsection.
(b) A public or private employer is not liable in a civil action based on actions or inactions taken in compliance with this section. The immunity provided in this subsection does not apply to civil actions based on actions or inactions of public or private employers that are unrelated to compliance with this section.
(c) Nothing contained in this section shall be interpreted to expand any existing duty, or create any additional duty, on the part of a public or private employer, property owner, or property owner’s agent.
(6) ENFORCEMENT.—The Attorney General shall enforce the protections of this act on behalf of any customer, employee, or invitee aggrieved under this act. If there is reasonable cause to believe that the aggrieved person’s rights under this act have been violated by a public or private employer, the Attorney General shall commence a civil or administrative action for damages, injunctive relief and civil penalties, and such other relief as may be appropriate under the provisions of s. 760.51, or may negotiate a settlement with any employer on behalf of any person aggrieved under the act. However, nothing in this act shall prohibit the right of a person aggrieved under this act to bring a civil action for violation of rights protected under the act. In any successful action brought by a customer, employee, or invitee aggrieved under this act, the court shall award all reasonable personal costs and losses suffered by the aggrieved person as a result of the violation of rights under this act. In any action brought pursuant to this act, the court shall award all court costs and attorney’s fees to the prevailing party.
(7) EXCEPTIONS.—The prohibitions in subsection (4) do not apply to:
(a) Any school property as defined and regulated under s. 790.115.
(b) Any correctional institution regulated under s. 944.47 or chapter 957.
(c) Any property where a nuclear-powered electricity generation facility is located.
(d) Property owned or leased by a public or private employer or the landlord of a public or private employer upon which are conducted substantial activities involving national defense, aerospace, or homeland security.
(e) Property owned or leased by a public or private employer or the landlord of a public or private employer upon which the primary business conducted is the manufacture, use, storage, or transportation of combustible or explosive materials regulated under state or federal law, or property owned or leased by an employer who has obtained a permit required under 18 U.S.C. s. 842 to engage in the business of importing, manufacturing, or dealing in explosive materials on such property.
(f) A motor vehicle owned, leased, or rented by a public or private employer or the landlord of a public or private employer.
(g) Any other property owned or leased by a public or private employer or the landlord of a public or private employer upon which possession of a firearm or other legal product by a customer, employee, or invitee is prohibited pursuant to any federal law, contract with a federal government entity, or general law of this state.
History.—s. 1, ch. 2008-7.
1Note.—Section 15, ch. 2011-119, provides that “[t]he amendments made to ss. 509.144 and 932.701, Florida Statutes, and the creation of s. 901.1503, Florida Statutes, by this act do not affect or impede the provisions of s. 790.251, Florida Statutes, or any other protection or right guaranteed by the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution.”
 
A few years back, two of my co-workers were feuding with each other. One is kind of a gun enthusiast, true Florida native, and is pretty far right, and the other is what I often think of when I hear the phrase "useless, jittery, sniveling little weasel, barely a shell of a man" (okay, it might be only from me I've heard that, but whatever.) Both are actually older than I am, and I'm north of fifty.

After an argument that got heated, Weasel-boy calls security and says he "feels threatened", offering that he believes Florida Man keeps a gun in his car. Florida Man, who was off-duty and had only stopped back by to pick up something he's forgotten, is politely asked to leave.

A few days later, Florida Man messages me and says he's on his way to an HR meeting, and has been tipped off that he's going to be asked if he does indeed keep a firearm in his vehicle. I immediately armed him with a screencap of the relevant statute along with the synopsis "Basically, it says that they can make no effort to determine if you keep a firearm in your vehicle, nor can they attempt to follow up on a report from any other party that you do."

He said the meeting lasted all of a minute or two and ended, after he showed the message I'd sent, in a profuse apology. I told him there is no excuse for the legal department of any employer not to know of this law, especially given how nuts the media went here when it was passed.
 
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