Remington 1100 LW 20g ??

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I picked up an older 1100 20g off of GB that appears to be an LW, but the left side of the receiver only appears to show "Remington Model 1100". No LW. All the rest of the signs are there though, serial number ends in a K and the barrel as 20g*LW.

I had them look for date codes on barrel, but the letters they were not able to find any on the left side of the barrel near the receiver.

Did some of the LWs not have the receiver marked as LW?
 
What's the serial #? Does the barrel have a long tang on the receiver end with an ejector button, or is the ejector riveted into the receiver like an 870? Anything is possible with regards to rollmarking. Does your receiver have the scrollwork? I have seen an 1100 receiver with nothing but a serial #. But the bolt had that little rollmark on it.
 
I do not have it in hand yet so I'm not about the barrel tang or ejector, but the SN is L3288XXK and the receiver does have scroll work.
 
The receiver code is your key. According to Kuhnhausen:

K = small frame 20 ga. LT made for 2 3/4"

The LT barrels have a 1.5" barrel extension, similar to 870 barrels, rather than the LT-20 version, which has a 3.5" barrel extension and a 3" chamber.
 
The 'L' serial number prefix ran from 1968 until 1974, which puts the gun clearly into LW territory, so we can forget about the LTs which didn't arrive until 1977. The serial number suffixes were the same for the LWs, LTs, and LW Model 870s.
During the transition from LW to LT they made quite a few hybrids, where you may have a non scalloped ejection port but a long tang barrel and they could have been marked LW or LT. All LTs are not 3" chambered. The serial number suffix codes are:
'X' 20 GA. “HEAVY FRAME” (DISCONTINUED)
'N' 20 GA. “HEAVY FRAME MAGNUM” (DISCONTINUED)
'K' 20 GA. “LIGHT WEIGHT” (“LW”) (ALSO INCLUDES M/1100 “LT”)
'U' 20 GA. LW MAGNUM (ALSO INCLUDES M/1100 “LT”)
So yours is an LW. Sweet handling gun. They redesigned the LW into the LT because they were getting some receiver cracking on a few of them, and that's why they went with the redesigned ejection port. I have never seen one with a problem personally, and I saw quite a few that were being run hard thru a lot of rounds. If you shoot a lot of heavy loads I would keep an eye on the buffer, which is in the upper rear of the receiver. Enjoy it.
 
Thanks for the information. I felt I was pretty safe that I had a Lightweight of some kind based on the K, but that receiver roll mark was throwing me. I'm would be happy with either a LT or LW, rather have an LT just for the availability and choices of barrels. I just did not want a STD.

There was another LW listed as a 1972 that had a L548XXXK SN, so I'm assuming that mine would be pre-72.

I bought this gun for my 13 year old daughter to start clay shooting with the school team and I wanted something that she should be comfortable handling. I'm sure something will need to be done about the LOP, but I'm hoping she will be OK with the 26" barrel.

A couple not so great seller's pics.

No LW Stamp?
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Looks to be an LW ejection port
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After some more digging I found a few more LWs that do not have the LW on the receiver. While I have not been able to find any pictures of a 68 or 69 LW it looks like the pre-72 LWs did not have the LW stamp on the receiver, just "Remington Model 1100".

Mine looks to be maybe a really late 70 or early 71. I'll be able to tell for certain this weekend, but I've been curious. I found one that what looks to be a date code of XT (December 1970) and a SN#3035XXK. Another listed as a 1970 with a SN#2505XXK.
 
That would definitely explain why I could not find any pre-70s :)

Don't know why I had it in my head that LWs went back to 68. So I guess the answer is that the first couple of years did not have the LW stamp on the receiver.
 
From the Remington Society webpage:

1977
In March, Remington Arms Company proudly announced the manufacture of the two-millionth Model 1100 shotgun. Also in 1977, Remington introduced a new, redesigned Model 1100 20 gauge Lightweight (called LT-20) in Field Grade, Magnum and Skeet versions. These guns are visually distinguishable from previous 20 gauge models by the contoured ejection port (long barrel extension).
1978
The Model 1100 LT-20 (20 gauge) is available in a Field Grade version. Formerly, this gun was built on a larger 12 gauge frame. Concurrently, the Model 1100 20 gauge left-hand version was dropped, and was not available in LT-20 versions. The new Model 1100 LT-20 Deer gun replaced the older, large receiver 20 gauge Deer g un. The new gun had a 20", improved cylinder barrel with rifle sights. Stocks on all Model 1100 LT-20 Field guns now were being made of walnut instead of mahogany
 
There are several typos and contradictions in that article. If you read the whole article it also says the 28 gauge size was introduced in 1970. The use of mahogany stock was not uniform either.
For your info, you can see the errors:
1970
Remington introduced a Model 1100 20 gauge Lightweight Field Gun which was built on a smaller 28 gauge frame, and had a lightweight checkered mahogany stock and fore-end. This gun was available with plain barrel ($179.95) or vent rib barrel ($204.95), in full or modified chokes 28" in length, or improved cylinder barrels 26" in length. Also in this year, Remington began marketing Model 1100 SA Skeet guns in .410 and 28 gauge individually as standard models. These were available with 25" skeet choke barrels ($209.95).
1971
In this year Remington added a Model 1100 20 gauge Lightweight in 3" magnum gun, weighing 6lbs/12oz. Plain 28", full choke barrel guns cost $214.95, and vent rib guns cost $239.95.
1972
In January of this year, Remington Arms Company proudly advertised producing the one-millionth Model 1100 autoloading shotgun. In only nine years of production the Model 1100 exceeded that of the venerable Model 11 autoloading shotgun, which was in production for more than 45 years. That historic shotgun is serial numbered L509235M. Also in January, Remington introduced a reversed, mirror-image, Left-Hand version of the Model 1100 in 12 and 20 gauge guns in Field Grade 12 gauge (with 30" full choke, 28" modified, and 26" improved cylinder vent rib barrels), and 20 gauge (with 28" full and modified, and 26" improved cylinder vent rib barrels) , Magnum Grade 12 gauge only (with 3" chamber and 30" full choke, vent rib barrel) for $234.95, SA Skeet Grade 12 and 20 gauge (with 26" vent rib skeet barrel) for $224.95, and Trap Grade 12 gauge only (available with regular trap for $259.95, or Monte Carlo style stock, and 30" full choke, vent rib trap barrel for $269.95) variations.
1973
Remington introduced a special limited edition Model 1100 Ducks Unlimited Commemorative Shotgun, a 12 gauge chambered for 2 3/4" shells with full choke, vent rib 30" barrel. This shotgun was available only in 1973, and was dedicated to the Ducks Unlimited organization. The right side of the receiver was roll-stamped with a simple gold-colored scroll pattern. Centered on the left side of the receiver panel is a multi-colored bronze medallion depicting a canvasback duck, the Ducks Unlimited mallard head logo, flanked by decorative scroll work. At the lower left, stamped in gold-colored script is Remington Model-1100TM and on the lower right is the serial number preceded by DU. Six hundred of these guns were sold directly to DU Chapters for fund raising dinners in 1973, and 10,000 sold conventionally.

1974
Remington introduced the Model 1100 TBMC Trap Gun, in 12 gauge with 30-inch, vent rib barrel in full or modified trap chokes ($274.95). This gun featured a figured and checkered stock and fore-end, and had a rubber recoil pad. A Monte Carlo style stock was optional. A left-hand version of this gun was also available ($2 69.95). Due to a shortage of American walnut, in mid-year Remington began fitting some Model 1100 and Model 870 Field Grade shotguns with lightweight mahogany stocks and forends.
1976
In January, Remington introduced a 12 gauge Model 1100 TB Trap Gun in right and left-hand versions, with select American walnut in regular Trap or Monte Carlo style stock, rubber recoil pad, and ventilated rib. Advertising stated that this gun gives the shooter the All-Events competitive edge. Prices ranged from $314.95 to $329.95. To honor Americas Bicentennial Remington brought out four commemorative 12 gauge variations of the Model 1100: Model 1100 (28" plain barrel with modified choke); M1100 SA Skeet Bicentennial (26" vent rib with skeet choke for $284.95); M1100 TB Trap Bicentennial (30" vent rib with full choke for $319.95 with standard stock and $10.00 more for Monte Carlo stock); and M1100 TBMCS Trap Bicentennial (with 30" vent rib with full choke and Monte Carlo stock). Centered on the left side of the receiver panel is a gold-colored roll-engraved Bicentennial American Eagle and Shield with the dates 1776 and 1976 and scroll pattern. At the lower left stamped in script is Remington Model-1100 and on the lower right is the serial number. The right side of the receiver has simple scroll roll-markings in gold-color. Approximately 5,000 Bicentennial Model 1100 shotguns were sold.

1977
In March, Remington Arms Company proudly announced the manufacture of the two-millionth Model 1100 shotgun. Also in 1977, Remington introduced a new, redesigned Model 1100 20 gauge Lightweight (called LT-20) in Field Grade, Magnum and Skeet versions. These guns are visually distinguishable from previous 20 gauge models by the contoured ejection port (long barrel extension).
1978
The Model 1100 LT-20 (20 gauge) is available in a Field Grade version. Formerly, this gun was built on a larger 12 gauge frame. Concurrently, the Model 1100 20 gauge left-hand version was dropped, and was not available in LT-20 versions. The new Model 1100 LT-20 Deer gun replaced the older, large receiver 20 gauge Deer gun. The new gun had a 20", improved cylinder barrel with rifle sights. Stocks on all Model 1100 LT-20 Field guns now were being made of walnut instead of mahogany.
 
Well mystery solved on the DOM. The date codes were hiding on the bottom of the barrel. Looks to be 1975. That's a bit surprising based on the SN# on the receiver, but whatever, I was just curious.
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The condition is pretty much what I had expected. The receiver is a little rougher than I thought, but the rest is better than expected. It's definitely not a collector, but then again I bought it for a teenager to learn with.

In breaking it down to clean and inspect it looks like it has been sitting forever and was full of dried up oil, old dust, lint and grime. It looked like it had not been cleaned in easily 20 years. The piston and seal are most likely shot, but Midway has them for about $30. The old ones are soaking overnight and I will see what I came make of them with some steel wool and a light touch with 1500 paper. I was a bit amazed at the amount of crud in the gun.

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Just a little dry
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Piston and Piston Seal. The o-ring is definitely shot.
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But it looks like it is nothing that some elbow grease and a few relatively cheap parts cannot fix. It handles great and is really light. Can't wait to get it running.
 
Nice find on the 1100. That's a really nice beginners gun.

I recently bought a 12 ga 1100 at the local pawn shop.

It was about as grungy as your gun. I gave it a full detail strip and clean; and it cycled really nicely after that.

One thing you really need to check and very likely clean is the recoil spring and spring tube. Mine was so crudded up it would hardly cycle. It's a bit more work to clean but I bet you will be surprised at the amount of crud you find.
 
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