Hey folks. New to this forum, although I've read quite a few threads on here before.
I'm having an issue with a recent Remington 700 XCR that I purchased. I got the gun from GunBroker.com....kindof. I found the listing there and it claimed that it was a NIB rifle. I called the shop (Little Crow Shooting Sports in MN) and the guy told me that he had stocked up on these and still had quite a few in the 7mm-08 in stock....8 I believe. He said it was brand new, and he sold me the gun over the phone to avoid the GunBroker charges (saved me $25).
I cleaned it, mounted my new Nikon Monarch 22.5x10-42 scope on it and headed to the range. It was late, so I was only able to get it sighted in at 50 yards. Looked pretty good.
A few days later, I went out to 100 yards...and it was terrible. That day I don't think I did better than a 3-4" group. I tried the 140g Rem. Core-lokts, the 139g Hornady SST's and the 150g Federals. Nothing would group. Now, the sun was in my eyes and it was hot....so I came back another day.
This time I was able to keep the groups down to about 2-3"...but none of the ammo would group. Occasionally, I'd get 2 shots about 3/8" apart, but then it would throw one bad like 4" off (I'm 90% sure it wasn't me). The Hornady SST's would put 2 touching and then drop one as low as 5".
Needless to say, I took it home and started really looking at it closely. I noticed there were a LOT of smooth pits/depressions in the bore. Looking down from the muzzle, I can count at least 15 of these in the first few inches of the barrel (as far as I can see down it).
I contacted Remington and complained. The first thing they said when I gave them the S/N is "This rifle was made in 2007, are you sure it's new?" YES, it absolutely was. They seemed hesitant to believe me. Anyway, they took down my complaints of "accuracy" and "barrel pitting" and sent me a shipping label.
They had it just over a week. They lapped the barrel, shot it and sent it back to me. The target they provided showed a 1.1" 3-shot group. Not bad, but not great, as one was a flier.
Anyway, I look down the barrel and the pitting is still there (I'm guessing some of them are a couple thousandths of an inch in depth.) At this point, I'm very unhappy about the barrel. I think this is a poor quality piece and either should be rebarreled or the entire gun replaced.
Here is the email I sent Remington on Monday and the pictures I sent them. I'd like to get you guys' opinion on if I'm right that this is a bad piece, or if I'm just being too picky.
Hello,
My name is Scott and I need to speak with somebody about my Remington 700.
I purchased this brand new gun on 8-16-2012 from a dealer in Minnesota. After an initial cleaning and a trip to the range, I noticed an accuracy issue with this gun.
Upon cleaning and inspecting the bore, I noticed several pits in the bore surface in the first few inches of the barrel. I sent this gun back under a warranty claim for accuracy and bore pitting issues (Repair # RE00282714) during which the barrel was lapped and returned to me.
Nothing was done to address the bore pitting. After lapping, the pits are actually more evident than they were prior to lapping.
I am attaching 4 small pictures that I was able to take with my digital camera of some of the pits closest to the muzzle. See the attached pictures to understand what I’m talking about. These pictures depict a cluster of 5 or 6 pits that are approximately 1” from the muzzle of the bore. As you can tell (even in these poor quality photos), these pits are rather sizable, have significant depth and occur both on the lands and the grooves. With the naked eye, I can count at least 15 of these imperfections in the first 6” or so of the barrel.
I am very unsatisfied with the quality of the barrel on this gun. I would like someone from Remington to contact me to discuss this issue and our options for a solution before I ship the rifle back under the subject service request.
I can be reached any time of the day on my cell, 908-XXX-XXXX, or at this email address. Please have someone contact me within the next 24 hours to discuss this matter.
Sincerely,
I'm having an issue with a recent Remington 700 XCR that I purchased. I got the gun from GunBroker.com....kindof. I found the listing there and it claimed that it was a NIB rifle. I called the shop (Little Crow Shooting Sports in MN) and the guy told me that he had stocked up on these and still had quite a few in the 7mm-08 in stock....8 I believe. He said it was brand new, and he sold me the gun over the phone to avoid the GunBroker charges (saved me $25).
I cleaned it, mounted my new Nikon Monarch 22.5x10-42 scope on it and headed to the range. It was late, so I was only able to get it sighted in at 50 yards. Looked pretty good.
A few days later, I went out to 100 yards...and it was terrible. That day I don't think I did better than a 3-4" group. I tried the 140g Rem. Core-lokts, the 139g Hornady SST's and the 150g Federals. Nothing would group. Now, the sun was in my eyes and it was hot....so I came back another day.
This time I was able to keep the groups down to about 2-3"...but none of the ammo would group. Occasionally, I'd get 2 shots about 3/8" apart, but then it would throw one bad like 4" off (I'm 90% sure it wasn't me). The Hornady SST's would put 2 touching and then drop one as low as 5".
Needless to say, I took it home and started really looking at it closely. I noticed there were a LOT of smooth pits/depressions in the bore. Looking down from the muzzle, I can count at least 15 of these in the first few inches of the barrel (as far as I can see down it).
I contacted Remington and complained. The first thing they said when I gave them the S/N is "This rifle was made in 2007, are you sure it's new?" YES, it absolutely was. They seemed hesitant to believe me. Anyway, they took down my complaints of "accuracy" and "barrel pitting" and sent me a shipping label.
They had it just over a week. They lapped the barrel, shot it and sent it back to me. The target they provided showed a 1.1" 3-shot group. Not bad, but not great, as one was a flier.
Anyway, I look down the barrel and the pitting is still there (I'm guessing some of them are a couple thousandths of an inch in depth.) At this point, I'm very unhappy about the barrel. I think this is a poor quality piece and either should be rebarreled or the entire gun replaced.
Here is the email I sent Remington on Monday and the pictures I sent them. I'd like to get you guys' opinion on if I'm right that this is a bad piece, or if I'm just being too picky.
Hello,
My name is Scott and I need to speak with somebody about my Remington 700.
I purchased this brand new gun on 8-16-2012 from a dealer in Minnesota. After an initial cleaning and a trip to the range, I noticed an accuracy issue with this gun.
Upon cleaning and inspecting the bore, I noticed several pits in the bore surface in the first few inches of the barrel. I sent this gun back under a warranty claim for accuracy and bore pitting issues (Repair # RE00282714) during which the barrel was lapped and returned to me.
Nothing was done to address the bore pitting. After lapping, the pits are actually more evident than they were prior to lapping.
I am attaching 4 small pictures that I was able to take with my digital camera of some of the pits closest to the muzzle. See the attached pictures to understand what I’m talking about. These pictures depict a cluster of 5 or 6 pits that are approximately 1” from the muzzle of the bore. As you can tell (even in these poor quality photos), these pits are rather sizable, have significant depth and occur both on the lands and the grooves. With the naked eye, I can count at least 15 of these imperfections in the first 6” or so of the barrel.
I am very unsatisfied with the quality of the barrel on this gun. I would like someone from Remington to contact me to discuss this issue and our options for a solution before I ship the rifle back under the subject service request.
I can be reached any time of the day on my cell, 908-XXX-XXXX, or at this email address. Please have someone contact me within the next 24 hours to discuss this matter.
Sincerely,
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