Remington 870 Express HD

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I was browsing a local gun store today and they had an 870 HD (with the extended mag tube) on the rack. I noticed that this one had a different fore end than other HD's that I'd seen. This had a narrower, ribbed forend similar to some 870P's I've seen.

This was a newer production example, so I guess Remington is moving to a different forend on this series of 870. Was this done to standardize parts between the various versions?
 
The current HD model actually has a longer forearm that extends past the shell carrier when the bolt is open. They introduced this about 6 months ago. I'm not sure what you saw.
 
This is what I saw. Previous 870 HD's had a different configuration:



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Older HD models had a field type forearm (9" long). Apparently Big Green has shifted to the shorter (7") law enforcement type forearm on the HD now.

That's good for people who want to put on 6-shot Sidesaddles and admin unload by tripping the left shell latch with the action open, but will be hard on people who need the extra length of the field type forearm.

Be nice if they'd put a shorter stock on it IMHO, but some folks are never satisfied...

lpl
 
I'm looking at getting one of these, but I've been advised to go for the 870 Police model instead. I guess this is because of the overall higher quality of the 870P.

So is the 870 Express HD a decent buy or would one be better served by the 870P?
 
I've always been happy with 870 Express guns. Apparently my standards are not considered high enough by many shotgun shoppers, however.

Personally I think a good mechanical condition older model (pre-magazine tube dimples) Express gun, Wingmaster, or LE trade-in is apt to be the best buy in an 870. They aren't too hard to find in most places. In about 40 years of shooting them, I have yet to buy a new 870.

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Info from Remington.

REMINGTON ARMS COMPANY, LE DIVISION
Important differences between Remington 870 Police and 870 Express shotguns
The 870 Express has been an important part of Remington’s offering to the sporting market. It was designed to meet a price point in the commercial market while still providing classic 870 functionality. All of Remington’s 870’s have interchangeable parts, even if they have cosmetic differences. It is also important to note that many manufacturers use the 870 Express platform for their Police / Combat models. Without exception, every manufacturer who utilizes our 870 platform serves to upgrade their system to a more efficient, street worthy platform.
While the 870 Express is still an 870, the best pump shotgun on the market, there are some very important cosmetic and functional differences between it and the 870 Police. To our customers in Law Enforcement, Military, Corrections, and Security, whose lives depend upon the unfailing performance of Remington shotguns, the Police modifications are of paramount importance. Synopses of the variances are provided below.
• 870 Police shotguns go thru a special 23 station check list – ranging from visual inspection, functional testing, test firing, and final inspection.
• All Police shotguns are assembled in a “special build area” at the plant in Ilion, NY. This section is secured and serves only to build LE and Military shotguns, with the same factory personnel working at that assignment each shift.
• All parts that enter the “special build area” are visually inspected by hand to ensure top quality and functionality.
• Due to heavy recoil in buck and slug loads, all 870 Police guns have a longer magazine spring which ensures positive feed and function.
• A heavier sear spring is used to generate a reliable, positive trigger pull between 5 and 8 lbs.
• A heavier carrier dog spring is used to ensure when the carrier elevates the shell, it will be held there until the bolt can push it into the chamber. This ensures positive feeding when using heavier payload rounds.
• Police shotguns do not have an ISS (Integrated Safety System) which is a locking mechanism on the safety of commercial shotguns. This type of locking mechanism can cause delay to an officer who needs the weapon but does not have the appropriate key. LE shotguns have the standard, proven, cross bolt safety.
• The fore-end on the Express model is longer and not compatible with many police shotgun vehicle racks.
• The Police shotguns utilize the heavy duty SPEEDFEED Stocks and Fore-ends.
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• The Express model will not allow for the addition of an extension tube without physical modification to the tube and barrel, which can nullify the warranty.
• The Express model has a BEAD BLAST BLUE finish while the Police models utilize either High Luster bluing or Parkerization.
• The Express model utilizes a synthetic trigger housing while the Police models use a compressed metal housing.
• The Police shotgun barrel is locked down with a “ball detent” system in conjunction with the magazine cap vs. a lesser grade “synthetic magazine spring retainer” lock down as used on the Express system.
• The receivers used in Police guns are “vibra honed” to smooth out rough finishes and remove burrs before parkerization or bluing.
• Police shotguns use machined ejectors and extractors, as opposed to powdered metal cast which are utilized on the Express models.
 
hey slater,
i own two 870 express guns. one is the HD model, and the other is a laminated stocked one with 26" bbl.

same experience as ghidora. no rust, and no problems. i'm sure the 870 police is a fine shooter as well.
 
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