Remington Model 870 Tac-2

[Mr. Designer]

Exactly my point. These tacti-cool guns are "used" for defense. In reality, it's not used for anything. Not used for clays or hunting. IMO, all that stuff on the side/front/stock is an overgrown kids' fantasy. Sure, you can take it out to the woods and blast some watermelons with it, but that fun is short-lived and it will never be used for anything else. That "recoil reducing" stock isn't reducing anything when it sits in the closet for 99.99999% of it's life. People can spend their money however they want. That's the beauty of being free. I only wish if they wanted to throw their money away, they'd throw it my way and I'd spend it on something worthwhile.

What about a "tactical" light or laser? Would they not be of use if the shotgun would be used for self defense in the middle of the night?

 

[Avenger29]

What about a "tactical" light or laser? Would they not be of use if the shotgun would be used for self defense in the middle of the night?

Or a set of ghost ring sights? They kind of preclude using a shotgun for trap.

Yes, some people go overboard with equiping their shotguns or rifles. But not everything black, plastic, and equipped with rails is a useless toy.

 

[sparkyguy]

What about a "tactical" light or laser? Would they not be of use if the shotgun would be used for self defense in the middle of the night?

I believe that falls into the ".000001% of the time" category. Plus, for me, I'd rather wait in the dark at a tactically advantageous position where the home invader doesn't know exactly where I am with a beacon giving away my position..but that's me.

Yes, some people go overboard with equiping their shotguns or rifles. But not everything black, plastic, and equipped with rails is a useless toy.

Well, my question put to you has yet to be answered. What and where are these "tacti-cool" guns being fired at? You say you try to fire it every week..at what? If not clay pidgeons, which is what 99% of shotgunners shoot at, then what? If you actually do shoot it as much as you say, then you are definitely the exception to the rule. These guns don't get used and are mainly purchased/pimped out by males in the 18-24yr old group living the fantasy of movies.

 

[fatguynlittlecoat]

One thing should be mentioned...the TAC models are based on the Express line...they aren't as heavy duty as the Police models and they don't have the same fit and finish as the Police or WM 870's...Still good guns.

 

[Mr. Designer]

What about a "tactical" light or laser? Would they not be of use if the shotgun would be used for self defense in the middle of the night?

I believe that falls into the ".000001% of the time" category. Plus, for me, I'd rather wait in the dark at a tactically advantageous position where the home invader doesn't know exactly where I am with a beacon giving away my position..but that's me.

They make momentary pressure switches so you can control the light remotely with a press of a switch.

 

[Avenger29]

I believe that falls into the ".000001% of the time" category. Plus, for me, I'd rather wait in the dark at a tactically advantageous position where the home invader doesn't know exactly where I am with a beacon giving away my position..but that's me.

It's really, really nice to be able to positively ID your target before pulling the trigger that sends a payload that you cannot call back. Momentary pressure switches allow proper control of the light- and it can be used to blind/disorient a home invader. A surefire is pretty darn bright.

Well, my question put to you has yet to be answered. What and where are these "tacti-cool" guns being fired at? You say you try to fire it every week..at what? If not clay pidgeons, which is what 99% of shotgunners shoot at, then what? If you actually do shoot it as much as you say, then you are definitely the exception to the rule. These guns don't get used and are mainly purchased/pimped out by males in the 18-24yr old group living the fantasy of movies.

I shoot mine at paper targets, reactive targets of various types, etc. And I shoot it quite a bit. Of course, one of the things that works in my favor is that I can shoot off my back deck, so I don't have to make time for range practice. I cannot speak for other shooters, but I have seen shotguns "tacced out" at the range that I sometimes go to. You need to realize that not every shooter or shotgunner has a desire to shoot trap, and there may not be a trap range where some shooters (like me) live. A surefire forend, sidesaddle, magazine extension, and stock w/ pistol grip are all useful additions to a shotgun if a person likes to use them. So don't get upset with us for spending money on what we view as enhancements for our shotguns.

 

[Jorg Nysgerrig]

Plus, for me, I'd rather wait in the dark at a tactically advantageous position where the home invader doesn't know exactly where I am with a beacon giving away my position..but that's me.

It's funny how the people who are against lights on guns seem to be completely oblivious to the actual use of them.

Well, my question put to you has yet to be answered. What and where are these "tacti-cool" guns being fired at? You say you try to fire it every week..at what? If not clay pidgeons, which is what 99% of shotgunners shoot at, then what?

Apparently someone has never heard of 3-gun competitions. I'd imagine those SASS guys might also take offense at the idea one must shoot at clays as well.

There's a whole wide world of shooting out there if you just look around.

 

[sparkyguy]

Jorg wrote:
It's funny how the people who are against lights on guns seem to be completely oblivious to the actual use of them.

It's even funnier how some ppl chime in like they know what they're talking about when they themselves don't even read thoroughly. I never said I was against tactical lights. I also know how they work, and still would rather sit in a tactical advantageous position. I've also been to many shooting competitions involving shotguns(have you?) and never, NEVER seen a tacti-cool shotgun there. Most ppl know serious shooters would laugh too hard at them if they did. There's a whole world of reading comprehension books out there, pick one up, Jorg.

Avenger29 wrote:
It's really, really nice to be able to positively ID your target before pulling the trigger that sends a payload that you cannot call back. Momentary pressure switches allow proper control of the light- and it can be used to blind/disorient a home invader. A surefire is pretty darn bright.

Have you ever used this light? This is assuming you are shining it in this persons' eyes, suppose he is not directly in front of you and now not only isn't he blind/disoriented, he knows exactly where you are and what you have in your hand. As far as positively ID'n my target, if I haven't turned on any lights, my eyes are already adjusted to the darkness and I can see in my house who is and who shouldn't be there. And if I call out for that person to freeze, my light isn't giving away my position. I would only fire if I felt threatened. As far as me gettting mad, I'm not at all. I already stated if you wanted to toss your money away, please..send it to me and I'll make alot better use of it. I think I've made my point, but if it makes you feel better...
You are totally right. These tacti-cool guns are da-sheet. They have so much use and are so practical, I can't believe ppl have gotten around w/o them for so many years. I'm sure you will have many, many opportunities to use these features over the years and it won't collect dust, ever. Money well spent. Done.