Remington vs Howa

[Slater]

I know that comparisons can be misleading and at times contentious, but I was curious about a comparison between these two rifles. Essentially, both are bolt guns with 20 inch heavy barrels and Hogue stocks. I believe the Howa has a hammer-forged barrel, though. Pricing is also similar.

Regarding overall quality and durability/reliability, is it a wash or does one have the edge over the other?


https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog...ts_id/42070/Remington+700+SPS+Tactical+308win



https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog...+308win+20"+Threaded+Heavy+Barrel+Hogue+Stock

 

[jmr40]

The 2 rifles are similar in quality and with similar designs. While I've never owned either of those exact rifles I have owned several Remington and Howa rifles. It is a close call and mostly personal preference but I'd pick the Remington between those 2 even with some quality issues Remington has had over the years.

Both rifles are screaming for customization and there are simply many more options for Remington. That is a big part of my reasoning.

 

[Glockula]

I have a Weatherby and have a hot several Remington 700s. The comb on the stock reduces recoil much better with the Howa /Weatherby rifle than the 700. My Weatherby in .270 win drives nails but 700's have a ton more after market support. Thing is with my Weatherby I haven't needed any after market pieces or support. So I may be biased

 

[viking499]

With the quality I have seen out of Remington lately, I would choose the Howa all day long.

 

[bikemutt]

^^^ this

 

[JO JO]

I will not buy a Remington after they sold out and I have been told that the newer Remington is not of the same quality as before when they were an American company. Now they are owned by a global stock market company
of investors, :banghead: I to would pick the Howa

 

[Gtscotty]

I like the Howa design better overall, one piece bolt, forged receiver, M-16 style extractor and 3 position safety. All a step up from the 700 design in my book, the only downside is Howas tend to be chunky monkeys.

 

[rcmodel]

At one time, you couldn't buy a better rifle then the Remington 700 for the money.

Such has not been the case now for several years.

Lately, Remington would be at about the bottom of my list for a affordable bolt gun.

The Howas I have looked at have been top notch, although I have never owned one.

But I probably would if I were looking in that price range.

rc

 

[Bula]

I have a Howa in .308, and love it. Not sure about the recent Rem rifles. When I bought the Howa, it was quite a bit less $ than a comparable Rem. Good trigger, really smooth action and the price was right. Shoots under 1 moa and I'm a lousy rifle shot. I vote Howa.

 

[Aragon]

I know that comparisons can be misleading and at times contentious, but I was curious about a comparison between these two rifles. Essentially, both are bolt guns with 20 inch heavy barrels and Hogue stocks. I believe the Howa has a hammer-forged barrel, though. Pricing is also similar.

Regarding overall quality and durability/reliability, is it a wash or does one have the edge over the other?


https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog...ts_id/42070/Remington+700+SPS+Tactical+308win



https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog...+308win+20"+Threaded+Heavy+Barrel+Hogue+Stock

Both beat the comparable Ruger or Savage offerings. Not too long ago many were decrying the decades old problem with the 700 that was going to bankrupt Remington. It never amounted to much other than emotion.

 

[Aragon]

I will not buy a Remington after they sold out and I have been told that the newer Remington is not of the same quality as before when they were an American company. Now they are owned by a global stock market company
of investors, I to would pick the Howa

Hmmmm... Just where exactly do you think the Remington is manufactured today?

Also, just where do you think the Howa is manufactured?

 

[jdduffy]

I think both rifles are decent,but the hogue stocks are junk.I have a couple and when shooting off a bipod they are not stiff enough.with very little effort you can twist the cross hairs right off the paper.ended up switching them out to laminates.

 

[JO JO]

I know where they are assembled , but that has no impact on quality of product !!

 

[CB900F]

Fella's;

As a direct answer to the question posed; Howa, with no second thoughts. However, if a little leeway were allowed, I'd be lookin' at other guns also. Mainly Tikka and CZ.

900F

 

[VoodooMountain]

I want a Remington 700 but always talk myself out of it. I do have a Howa though in 25-06. My buddy liked it so much he got one himself. He bought the first box of ammo he came across which was hornady 117 and his rifle apparently likes this ammo. 1 hole groups at 80ish yards.

My example only had one lug making contact and has so far proved to be a 2 moa shooter with 100 gr game kings and ballistic tips. I haven't tried any heavier pills yet.

I think I will find a good load for it but one thing I do not like is the balance of the rifle. Maybe it's just me but the hogue stock doesn't make it too heavy it just makes it clunky. I have held versions in laminate and they pointed better for me. The Remington just feels more natural to me but I always worry about the quality. I have actually seen some adl 's rusting just sitting at Academy on the shelf. Then do I replace the trigger? How much for a decent stock? Is the barrel a good example?,Etc. And then they cost 30-50% more than the competition. I would really like to know if Remington has gotten any better lately.

 

[sawcut]

Both are decent rifles, but I think the Howa has several better features, as noted in other posts.

But I have one big issue with the Howa...

Howa, what are you thinking? How many sales do you make in the USA versus Europe? The rifle barrel has metric threads, making it a little bit more difficult for gunsmiths here to re-barrel, and limiting aftermarket options.

If the Howa action was threaded to accept either Remington or Savage barrels, it would be a fantastic option. Instead, they remain a merely reasonable option due to these issues. If the action was threaded for Savage barrels, even if they did not use a barrel nut from the factory, there would be so many aftermarket options for the rifle to upgrade and change barrels. The rest of the receiver, bolt and action are very good.

I'd be nice if Howa introduced this as the "Howa American" action.

 

[cdb1]

Howa all the way for me.

 

[mshootnit]

I have both with the Howa being a Vanguard. The Howa action I have is closer in quality to a SAKO than it is to the Remington. Vanguard accuracy on mine is sub moa.

 

[Poper]

I have both with the Howa being a Vanguard. The Howa action I have is closer in quality to a SAKO than it is to the Remington. Vanguard accuracy on mine is sub moa.

^^^^
Yes. What he said.
My Vanguard is a .30-06 and is as accurate as my custom Rem. 700 in 6.5-.300WSM.
And a lot less money, too.

 

[Aragon]

I know where they are assembled , but that has no impact on quality of product !!

It certainly could. In any event your earlier comment "I will not buy a Remington after they sold out and I have been told that the newer Remington is not of the same quality as before when they were an American company. Now they are owned by a global stock market company of investors, I to would pick the Howa" isn't about product quality. It's about your personal beef with Remington.