Removing the Internal safety on the Springfield

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by The Dutchman, Aug 3, 2005.

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  1. The Dutchman

    The Dutchman Member

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    I have heard that the Internal Locking System on the Springfield 1911's causes more problems than they solve, how do you remove it to bring it back to a series 70 which is what Mr. Browning intended for the gun to be? Thanks

    P.S Is it true that it effects the trigger crispness of the design?
     
  2. tc300mag1

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    Just replace the mainspring housing need std series 70 guts .. the guts in the ils housing are different..

    No it doesnt effect the crispness of trigger only reason i replaced mine was i wanted magwells and my 2 loaded models didnt have them
     
  3. JERRY

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    springfield 1911s have a lock on them???!!!


    well, that settles it, when i buy my 1911, it will be a Thompson Auto-Ordnance.
     
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    yes they have them in the mainspring housing so as i said above its easyly removed if you wish to remove it
     
  5. Rangegod

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    No need to change MS housing, unless you want too for reasons other than just removing the ILS. The standard parts needed will set you back less than $5, a little more if you want to go with a reduced power Wolff MS.

    I replaced the following on my TRP:
    MS housing cap
    MS Housing cap retaining pin (Note: not used on ILS MS housing)
    MS (stock 1911 is 23#; I went 20#) The ILS MS is 28# and I noticed a major trigger improvement by removing 8# of MS pressure.

    Easy fix and less than 5 minutes work.

    JAC
     
  6. Jim Watson

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    Hey, Dutchman,

    Series 70 does not mean "original design" or "without firing pin safety or key lock." It is a Colt trademark for the Government Model mutated with a collet type barrel bushing without Mr Browning's knowledge or input (since he had died 44 years before that model came out.)

    I don't like superfluous action parts like firing pin blocks or key locks but anybody who wants a real JMB/Colt 1911 with hand-biting hammer/grip safety and teeny sights is welcome to it.
     
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    I removed the ILS from my Springer GI. Didn't make as much of a difference in trigger pull as when I replaced the ILS in my 9mm 1911. It's an easy job. I got my parts from CDNN investments. They were Colt parts. Takes you less than 10 minutes.
     
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    I take that so call hand biteing JMB/Colt any day over a Springfield or a Kimber.I have a box stock Combat Commander on my hip at present. I wish I had a couple of doz more.
     
  9. Old Fuff

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    > ...but anybody who wants a real JMB/Colt 1911 with hand-biting hammer/grip safety and teeny sights is welcome to it. <<

    The Old Fuff will be second in line ... :D
     
  10. meathammer

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    It never caused me any problems, but I also removed the ILS from my pistol. It's very easy to do. (I'm no more than a tinkerer) I think other manufacturers engineering locks into their firearms should take note. Don't let Springfield's lock be a deciding factor on a purchase.


    --meathammer
     
  11. RGO

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    Springfield's ILS is a great way to play both sides of gun politics. It lets them put on a lock to satisfy the lawyers and antis. For us, it is 100% removable for just a few $$ worth of parts. The parts are all in the mainspring housing.
     
  12. mattw

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    I have an older (1994) springfield, i'm not sure if the MSH originally had an ILS or not because i bought it used. I replaced the MSH on mine simply because i wanted a flat checkered one with a lanyard loop. I have zero gunsmithing ability and i did it in about 2 seconds with the help of my girlfriend (laugh if you want, you know its hard to get everything held in place and lined up and then drop in a pin with all that spring tension.) , I got everything lined up and in place and told her to drop the pins in. If you want a new MSH i recommend Smith & Alexander. That will set you back about $40-$60 but as mentioned above you don't need to get a new one.
     
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