Renewed Terrorist Threat - What Are You Doing to Prepare (if anything)?
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WonderNine
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No, nobody would ever blow up a federal building in OK would they...
DonNikmare
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Number 1, I'm too lazy. Number 2, I'm too busy. I could go on and on but I doubt I will discover a good excuse.
I have a hard time understanding the open borders deal. Just don't get it no matter what way I look at it. The economy argument - well, what could be worse for it than another terrorist attack. The political power explanation - well, if open borders are identified as a major reason for another terrosist attack no amount of illegal or legalized immigrants would be able to keep a group of poloticians or anyone politician in power and so on and so forth.
I grew up in a closed border country. Very few people got out and very few people got in without the goverment's knowldge and permission. Imagine several lines of barbwire fence with freshly tilled ground inbetween each (to show tracks and slow down runners). One of the fences would have an electric current running through it, touching it would set off an alarm in one of many border patrol army unit bases spread along the border every few miles. An army border unit would be qucikly dispatched to run down anyone getting across. German shepards are/were part of every patrol unit.
In third or forth grade, we were taken on a field trip and allowed to see a german shepard chase and take down a trainer. We were told that would happen to us if we ever tried to cross. Mountains or not it was all fenced and guarded 24/7.
Granted the US is a lot bigger than Bulgaria (about the size of TN) but you gotta start somewhere. Given the current level of threat it is beyond me that borders are not better guarded and protected in the way they should be and no real effort is made to get a start on it. I watched a special on PBS a while back and most border potrol officers interviewed seem to say that they often arrest and deport folks trying to get across over and over again.
PC crap, internationally of intranationally focused, is another pitfall in my opinion. Random checks seem like a gimmick to me. Old grandma's are being searched and bothered, while others ignored 'cause the puter didn't pull them up. I say search everyone or intelligently profile. I think profiling has more to do with common sense than any type of discrimination. Bush is trying to bring terrorist to "justice" but when a palestinian terrorist leader is brought to "justice" the White House finds it "very disturbing."
I'm not happy to live with any chance of a terrorist attack affecting me no matter how small it may be. The fact that it could and will affect some innocent citizens is enough.
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Wolfy
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Can someone translate what TEOTWAWKI means.
Sportcat
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The End Of The World As We Know It
TEOTWAWKI
TEOTWAWKI
TerryBob
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My wife is going to college and has a couple of Army officers in her class. One of these guys was injured in the Pentagon on 9 11. They said that they are expecting female suicide bombers to hit the malls around the country. They are supposed to look as though they are pregnant. This may or not be true but this is what they told the class.
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stevelyn
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I plan on doing what I always do out here.........try and stay in outa the wind and rain.
RevDisk
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Whoopsy, didn't mean to incorporate the two together, civil liberties and SS.
On the other hand, I get a little honked off that a chunk of my paycheck is taken from me and I might never see it again. And I of course have no alternate as I'm not allowed to opt out. Dang it, that's money I can spend on firearms!
ctdonath
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It's that "out" part that is the problem, as in "very few people got out ... without the government's ... permission."
Fences stop people on both sides of it. The gatekeepers controlling who gets in can, on a whim, decide to prevent anyone from leaving - a power which those in control can very easily enslave a free people. Recall your example of being a youth being shown "if you try to leave, you will die." A very bad situation indeed, as demonstrated by most closed border countries.
I frequently drive to Canada. Only once was I stopped & questioned while leaving the USA - it was one of the most disturbing moments of my life: whaddayamean I can only leave if an armed bureaucrat lets me? Fortunately it was a fluke.
Part of living in a free country is the freedom to leave. Fences wreck that.
Lagadelphia
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As we are talking about Islamic terrorists in this thread, I'm not worried about them hitting here.
Master Blaster
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This has made me realize I'm out of Yeungling black and tan Beer.
Probably need some Cuervo Gold and Triple Sec too, for the guests I'm having over for a BBQ this Holiday weekend. I also need some suntan lotion for the pool party on Saturday.
Makes me real glad I dont live in some socialist hellhole like NYC, LA or Chicago.
Probably need some Cuervo Gold and Triple Sec too, for the guests I'm having over for a BBQ this Holiday weekend. I also need some suntan lotion for the pool party on Saturday.
Makes me real glad I dont live in some socialist hellhole like NYC, LA or Chicago.
Master Blaster
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Actually the Isrealis who only came into existance as such 4 years after the war ended, had no need to invade Germany since the Americans, Brits and Russians had already completely destroyed the country.
If you want to know what happened to German civilians in WWII do a search on Dresden and Firebombing. What we did no Iraq and Afghanistan is nothing compared to what we did to Japanese and German civilians in a real war.
Highland Ranger
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Its time for either a ceremonial gun or ammo purchase.
Since I bought two guns last week (and as such it doesn't count), I'll go with ammo.
Since I bought two guns last week (and as such it doesn't count), I'll go with ammo.
Baba Louie
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I have a hard time equating them with cowardice. On the contrary, they are brave enough to die for a belief. The question is, will we remain cohesive and remain brave enough to carry the fight to them, no matter the consequences? Here we are doing the equivilent of marching in rank wearing redcoats fighting by rules they shun but still we feel we MUST comply with said rules of engagement or be derided for sinking to their level of terror.
Sometimes "Tit for Tat" is right and proper.
As long as we are a $$ friend to Israel, as long as we feel the need for OPEC oil and have any troops stationed in the mid-east, as long as young men and women in the mid-east are taught to hate the US with a fury we can't begin to imagine... they will come.
They have come. I think they are here, now. They learned Pre-Election eruption works to their advantage. Get ready. Let's see if we roll over with a tucked tail and a whimper or get all kinds of fired up when it comes.
Somewhere, several someones must be laughing their heads off as we chastise our administration over failure to find WMD, point fingers at each other over 9-11, cringe in embarrassment over Abu Ghirab, force liberties to be ground into shambles while they continue to kill innocents, hide in Mosques, hospitals and schools, behead non-combatants, hang charred bodies after dragging them through the streets... different sets of rules certainly makes for an interesting war. We've faced similar situations in the past.
Gotta go out and keep watch for any pregnant middle eastern women with adams' apples and 5 O'Clock shadows while Uncle Sugar keeps fingernail clippers off of ticketed airline passengers. Holiday weekend coming up doncha know?
P95Carry
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One of the (THE perhaps) main success ... if you can use the word about terrorism .. is that they have since 9/11 been able to instill fear and apprehension ... without doing anything.
We assume there will another episode ... very likely but ... even if not ... they have managed to produce an atmosphere of unease .... and they can heighten and maintain that for a long time .. still with no actual action per se. Plus .. to counter this we are now under greater restrictions of freedom .. which could worsen further .... another ''victory'' if you will, that they have achieved.
I had this thru an email source today ...... About suspects about whom I imagine info is being sought.
We assume there will another episode ... very likely but ... even if not ... they have managed to produce an atmosphere of unease .... and they can heighten and maintain that for a long time .. still with no actual action per se. Plus .. to counter this we are now under greater restrictions of freedom .. which could worsen further .... another ''victory'' if you will, that they have achieved.
I had this thru an email source today ...... About suspects about whom I imagine info is being sought.
We'd be happy to oblige, except that they wear masks when they cut the throat of bound victims, they shoot from behind women and children, they strap bombs on themselves and blow up eating establishments with no intention except to cause fear.
They are COWARDS.
WhiteKnight
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Sounds like a problem a single round of 00 buck would solve instantaneously.
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WonderNine
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You mean like the ones that helped TM blow up the Murrah Federal buidling?
If you're all ate up with political correctness you best not read further. YOU'VE BEEN WARNED!
Why is WhiteKnight out of line?
WhiteKnight's solution to keep folks from illegally crossing our borders is highly pragmatic and if implemented with extreme diligence would solve the problem of folks sneaking in to the US fairly quickly.
Otherwise just open the borders up and we can play educator, physician, and general all around provider to every Francois, Hans, Pedro, Igor and Lili Lee that wants a free ride courtesy of Uncle Sugar.
The US' historical "come on in" attitude towards immigration had it's roots in pragmatism. The US is a huge country. It needed people to build it and make it work. Well now we've got all the people we need. We don't need anymore and the "come on in" attitude has got to go. We don't need anyone else's "huddled masses" - we've got plenty of our own to take care of now.
Unlike 100 years ago when immigrants came here and learned English and adopted the contemporary culture now a days they tend, because of the Politicaly Correct notion of Multiculturalism, to retain both their language and culture thus becoming groups within a group. If things keep up the way they're going there won't be a United States in 100 years just a 100 different cultures/languages all struggling to retain their individual identities instead of a blended group all working together to keep the US great.
The liberals like to use the hackneyed phrase "melting pot" to forward their multiculturalism agenda. Well they don't have a clue about that. A melting pot melted and allowed the alloying of weak metals into one stronger one. The individual metals did not retain their characteristics but became as one. That was true of immigration in the US in past days. It isn't now. The days of the melting pot have been gone since the early 70's.
The alerts are meaningless. There is little one can do IMHO. I have to fly for business. I have to go to work. If I don't work I lose my house and live under a bridge with my family.
My job allows no armed preparedness. We have no plans for evacuation, response to shooters, etc. that will save me in real time.
Truly draconian measures to take out all potential Islamic terrorist are probably antithetical to our liberties. It might come to that if we were truly pushed with repeated suicide bombings, for example.
To answer the original question, I am doing nothing beyond my already normal preparations for trouble.
I have little trust in these warnings anyway. I'm cynical about their validity and the motivation behind them (from some parties at least).
My job allows no armed preparedness. We have no plans for evacuation, response to shooters, etc. that will save me in real time.
Truly draconian measures to take out all potential Islamic terrorist are probably antithetical to our liberties. It might come to that if we were truly pushed with repeated suicide bombings, for example.
To answer the original question, I am doing nothing beyond my already normal preparations for trouble.
I have little trust in these warnings anyway. I'm cynical about their validity and the motivation behind them (from some parties at least).
Gordon Fink
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Yes, it might solve part of the problem or at least stem the tide a little bit, but at what cost?
Killing migrants, who mostly seek nothing but better opportunities, would be straight-up murder. Anyone who participated in such an activity, under the color of authority or not, would be a far greater criminal than the “illegal†immigrants themselves. It’s that simple.
Let’s shut off the welfare spigot that allegedly makes “illegal†immigrants such a burden on our society. That solution would be both pragmatic and morally just.
~G. Fink
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