Repeal the second amendment

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The Bills of Rights does not give me any rights

It only writes down some of the (natural or God-give) rights I have. Repealing the Bill of Rights will not remove my rights, it will only make the government unfit to rule over me. A tyrannical government always wants to silence and disarm it's populace.
 
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Harvard guys are really tough

They know how to knit and stuff

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The upside of the situation is that these Ivy League squirts see that the Second Amendment is a valid limit on the incursions of the Government. They need to have it out of the way to bring about their New World Order. But if they were convinced that it really did mean a "national guard" they'd be all in favor of locking up all the guns in the local armory. But see, they KNOW in their hearts it's a right accorded to individuals and they simply don't like that.
 
It occurs to me that 14000 homicides is really not that many. I don't care how that number compares with other countries. In the grand scheme of things, it is not a big number. Something tells me that even if it were 10% of that, the antis would still try and call it a huge crisis.

Liberty and freedom come with risks. They either forget that or don't care. They definitely won't acknowledge what the true purpose of RKBA is and will label a kook anyone who does have the audacity to state it. Nevermind the fact that men like Jefferson stated the very same thing. He mentioned something about a tree, liberty, tyrants, and blood. He damn sure wasn't talking about al qaeda.

The socialist drive of these people is barely concealed anymore. It makes it easier to expose them for the statists that they are. Problem is, a growing percentage of the population wants to be sheep. Damn shame if you ask me. Even if you didn't ask, it's still a damn shame.
 
Here's a number I once calculated from real-world data. Annually, approx only .12% of the population will use a gun to commit a crime. Now, what is so reasonable about trying to infringe an inalienable right of the other 99.88% of us???
 
if a handgun is purchased at a gun show, there is no background check required.

If a handgun is purchased at a gun show from a licensed dealer, the background check is required same as if the purchase was made at
the dealer's store.

If a handgun is purchased at a gun show from a private citizen, there is no background check required, same as if the purchase was made from a private citizen at a yard sale, or from an ad in the newspaper For Sale classifieds.

Purchase from a private citizen at a gun show quire frankly is less likely to go to just any Tom, Dick or Harry: most folks I encounter at gun shows are hunters, sportsmen or collectors.

ATF traces of crime guns have consistently shown that gun shows are not a significant source of crime guns.

Just one of the really skewed statements in that piece. These are the "best and brightest" who know how the rest of us should live and are willing to use the power of the federal government in service of their agenda.
 
"he should move to europe" i can take his place in the US....

I will pay for his ticket out of the country so long as he signs the paper that he can never come back. Not just in 5 or 10 years,but until death doth take him to his final rest.
 
As I have been reading many things related to the history of this country I understand that back in the day Militia service was compulsory.
 
As I have been reading many things related to the history of this country I understand that back in the day Militia service was compulsory.

It still is. Under United States law for the unorganized militia it is from age 17 to age 45. Under the appropriate Oklahoma Statute, the state unorganized militia is from age 17 to 70.

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This is the most honest

anti-gun editorial I've seen in a long time.

They actually said that the 2nd Amendment should be repealed. Which, technically, it can be. So far as I know, the only thing in the Constitution that can't be changed is equal representation in the Senate, and even that could be changed at a Constitutional Convention that placed the entire document up for review. At that point, we could scrap the whole thing and start over. But there's nothing in the Articles that exempts Amendments x through y from change via the Amendment process. This includes the Bill of Rights.

What the editorial says is that the writers believe that society would be improved by the strict regulation (prohibition, actually) of private firearms ownership, but the 2nd Amendment prevents this, so it should be repealed. The basic assumption is probably wrong (I say probably, because social policy isn't physics), but the method they advocate for implementing that assumption is absolutely correct. If you want to eliminate private gun ownership, you must start by repealing the 2nd Amendment.

Would that the Brady folks were that honest.

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I was going to say pretty much the same thing as the previous poster. I think these kids are morons for believing in the "solution" to violent crime that they do, but I can't fault them for laying out the proper and legal way to accomplish their goals. I have no problem with anyone publishing a countering opinion to mine, as long as they don't try to impose those opinions on me through illegal, unconstitutional laws that make exercising their rights superior to mine, and the way I read this article, they refrained from calling for such laws. I say good for them for recognizing the truth of the matter, that the 2A is an individual right which precludes the kinds of laws they *wish* could be brought to bear against us. They're still blithering idiots, but at least not so far gone that they can't understand a simple and glaring truth.

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This is what happens when you grow up in gated communities with your every need met in multiple ways.
Probably the worst thing these guys have ever had to confront is a heated volley during debate club, maybe a WTO protest where they got a tiny whiff of tear gas, or a bully classmate in prep school. And, maybe an argument with a cop at spring break.

The would likely change their tune if they had to face the idea that every time they printed/published something inflammatory that the Police or even armed warlords would come and beat, torture, or imprison them. Some people live this reality in a courageous way. These people at Harvard do not.

I would have taken a "swift kick in the nuts" scholarship to attend Harvard when I was younger. But, the older I get, the more grateful I am for the way I grew up in the real world, and for the education I had to (and still do) work so hard to obtain.
 
Dang, I wish I was smart like those folks at Harvard.

Written in an age in which minutemen rose to dress and fight at a moment’s notice, the Second Amendment was no doubt motivated by a young nation’s concern for its own safety and stability.

No Doubt! Except for all those letters those guys wrote about it they just forgot to put that part in there. I think they were called the founding fathers people like James Madison and Patrick Henry and John Adams. They just forgot, or maybe their files got deleted off of their computers.

But now, when the United States is protected by the most powerful security forces on the globe, the Second Amendment is neither relevant nor useful.

Sure! if the first statement is true then this one must be also. Oh wait... well anyways even if it wasn't it isn't like any government would ever use the military to suppress it's own populace. That would never happen, not here.

Rather, it has become an impediment to vital public policy,

It sure is! Socialism is most certainly public policy and the 2A stands clearly stands in it's way. Also facisim and a general repeal of the constitution as has been tried in the last few years.

and it should be repealed and replaced with nuanced federal legislation.

Like a gun ban. This is a great idea! It will help change this country like nobody's business.

Despite the controversy surrounding the Second Amendment, arguments about its relevancy have not surfaced in the Supreme Court since 1939, when the justices merely touched upon the issue in United States v. Miller.

If you say so.

But early this month, the Supreme Court agreed to take on the case of District of Columbia v. Heller, in which the central consideration is the right of an individual to own a firearm as protected under the Second Amendment. The case specifically addresses private handgun ownership in the District of Columbia. But while legalistic arguments—the phrasing of the amendment itself and the framers’ intent—will be at the center of the debate, no matter what the justices ultimately decide, we believe that a constitutional protection of an individual right to bear arms is detrimental to the country.

Wow, why don't you tell us how you really feel? This is great! honesty is so refreshing! But what is interesting is that you believe that there is a right. You Harvard boys sure are smart.

Instead, the Second Amendment should be replaced with federal statues designed to tightly regulate gun ownership.

Because the government is running this country, not us. We do as we are told.

The high level of violence in the United States as compared to other developed countries, if not directly related to the culture of gun ownership and distribution, is at least a strong argument that the Second Amendment is preventing aggressive federal gun regulation.

I understand completely. Get rid of guns and you get rid of the cause of violence. The gun culture is just a collateral casualty. But is it not worth to live in a violence free society like Great Britain?

According to the Centers for Disease Control, in 2005, 68 percent of the 14,860 homicides in the United States were gun-related. Given the pervasiveness of gun violence that occurs in this country every year, this sort of uneven gun control is unacceptable, especially when it comes to handguns. Unlike rifles and shotguns, a handgun has little use in hunting: It is a military and police weapon, built expressly to kill another human being. Yet little is done to prevent its distribution: In Virginia, any person over the age of 18 can buy a handgun, and if a handgun is purchased at a gun show, there is no background check required.

I understand. Rifles and shotguns don't kill people, hand guns do. Get rid of the hand guns and we are GTG. Rifles and shotguns are not built for the purpose of killing people. They are good guns and used to break clays and kill fox in a sublime non-threatening way.

Supporters of a constitutionally enshrined individual right to bear arms argue that state gun control laws have “reinterpreted” the right to gun ownership. These limitations on gun ownership, they say, demonstrate that gun ownership itself is not linked to increased violence.

Yes, but this "evidence" although logical does not support your position. Therefore it needs to be gotten rid of.

But in the wake of the expiration of the Federal Assault Weapon Ban in 2004, gun control remains relatively lax in many states, especially when it comes to handguns, which are responsible for many, if not most, gun-related murders.

"Many if not most?" don't be shy how about 80%+ on average depending upon where you live, with shotguns taking up a good 15%. Hand guns are just absolutely crazed criminals that kill people every day. I don't know why banning rifles did not work to reduce crime....

Gun advocates claim the need for handguns in self-defense, but such considerations are moot when weighed against the number of lives that might be saved by making the weapons illegal.

Just look at the number of lives saved in DC and Chicago! Much fewer people have been murdered with handguns since they were banned. Next we can get rid of knives and shotguns, also psychopaths as well!

In the context of today’s society, the Second Amendment is outdated. Constitutional debates over its interpretation stand in the way of the implementation of pressing public policy.

Socialism, facism, one world government, whatever the government wants, it is for your own good.

Instead of wasting time attempting to fix this anachronism, we should repeal this amendment and focus our efforts on legislation that will actually protect the “security of a free state”—a charge explicit in the Second Amendment.

Absolutely. That is brilliant! The best idea I have yet heard of. We repeal the second ammendment and restrict the Federal government from passing any laws in order to protect the security of free states. We let the non-gun states pass their own laws and ban all firearms. The smart Harvard grads can all move to the non-gun states (or stay there in most cases) and the dumb people get what they deserve in the gun states.

If only I had gone to Harvard, I could have come up with that idea all on my own.
 
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