Retraining required for Idaho enhanced permit renewal?

[pintler]

I'm a WA resident, with a Utah non-resident permit (in addition to the WA one).

It's time to renew.

The Utah renewal is cheap and easy.

An Idaho Enhanced permit is another option. It requires a days training, to the tune of $150 or so. An Idaho Enhanced permit would cover a couple of additional states, but not ones that I visit all that often.

My googling didn't uncover whether the Idaho training is a one time thing, or if it is require every 5 years at renewal time (perhaps because the enhanced permits are new and so no one has had to renew yet).

I might take the course and switch to the ID permit if it's a one time thing; if it's a recurring thing I might just stick with Utah.

Does anyone know for sure whether the training requirement is recurring for renewals?

 

[Snyper]

http://legislature.idaho.gov/idstat/Title18/T18CH33SECT18-3302K.htm

http://www.ag.idaho.gov/concealedWeapons/concealedWeapons_index.html

http://www.idahosheriffs.org/ccw.htm

Someone at the last link can likely give you an answer if you don't find one at the others

 

[IdahoSkies]

I don't have the enhanced permit, but its my recollection that its one time training. I don't recall in the statue where it says the training "expires."

But if in doubt, read the code.

Here, found it for you.

http://www.legislature.idaho.gov/idstat/Title18/T18CH33SECT18-3302.htm

 

[pintler]

Thanks to the people who took the time to reply.

I had read the posted links, and many others, before posting initially. The code is (to my untrained eye) ambiguous.

The law (18-3302K (4)) says:

(4)The sheriff must deny an enhanced permit unless...
...
(c)Has successfully completed within the twelve (12) months immediately preceding filing an application (a suitable course)...


And for renewals:

(9) Every license that is not, as provided by law, suspended, revoked or disqualified in this state shall be renewable...The sheriff shall require the licensee applying for renewal to complete an application. The sheriff must submit the application to the Idaho state police. ... The sheriff shall not issue a renewal before receiving and reviewing the results of the records check and must deny a license if the applicant is disqualified under any of the criteria provided in this section.

So my question is, when the training requirement in 4c ('within the twelve months immediately preceding filing an application') talks about an application, does it mean the initial application, or does it also mean a renewal application in (9) ('sheriff shall require the licensee applying for renewal to complete an application.'). I.e. does 'has not completed a course in the preceding 12 months' count as 'is disqualified under any of the criteria provided in this section.'

 

[Snyper]

The only way to get a definitive answer is call a Sheriff in Idaho.

I would say more training isn't required for the renewal, but what I say is only worth what you paid to hear it.

 

[kitsapshooter]

Do not just talk to the sheriffs office. Talk to the person who does the permits. Ask, politely for the rule, regulation or cite that specifically addresses your questions.

 

[SHOOT1SAM]

As an Idaho resident, I can tell you that the reason we now offer the enhanced permit is because although our permit is a State-Issued permit, it is administered by the County Sheriff's Dept. and many other states would not accept it.

The enhanced permit is accepted by those states that did not accept out permit previously.

Keep in mind that if you have a permit from...ANYWHERE else, it is recognized by the State of Idaho.

But no, once you have gone through the training, you after not required to go through it again...just the background check for renewal.

Sam

 

[kitsapshooter]

Doesn't Idaho have a residency requirement?

 

[pintler]

"Doesn't Idaho have a residency requirement?"

Normal permits are available to non residents; I used to have one (before switching to a Utah non resident, for reasons of convenience at the time).

I think enhanced permits are also available to non-residents who have a permit from their home state. See, for example, 18-3302K (4)b:

"Has been a legal resident of the state of Idaho for at least six (6) consecutive months before filing an application under this section or holds a current license or permit to carry concealed weapons issued by his state of residence''



Idaho also has Constitutional Carry for residents only, from http://handgunlaw.us/states/idaho.pdf:

"Note: Anyone (Resident/Non-Resident) over 18 years of age can carry a concealed handgun outside the confines of any city. Only Residents of Idaho over 21 can carry without a permit/license inside the confines of a city. Idaho law use to just allow unlicensed concealed carry outside the confines of a city. All the law changed was allowing Idaho residents 21 and older to carry inside the confines of a city without a permit/license."