Reward Offered For Information On 39 Full Auto MAC-10 Submachine Guns. In England!

[Zoogster]

http://www.thisislocallondon.co.uk/...c_10_was_one_of_arsenal_of_converted_weapons/

Drug dealer's Mac-10 machine gun was one of arsenal of converted weapons
6:00am Thursday 12th February 2009

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Details of a deadly Mac-10 submachine gun which was used to murder a music producer can now be revealed after the conviction of the drug dealer who hid it under his kitchen cupboards.

Mac-10 fact file
Deadly Mac 10 machine gun used in murder
David Swaby, 27, was jailed for seven years last Friday for possession of the gun that killed Richard Holmes, 21, four years ago in a row over “disrespectful” rap lyrics.

The gun was one of 90 blank-firing replica weapons converted by gunsmith Grant Wilkinson in his garden shed in Berkshire.


Watch police test fire the Mac 10






Wilkinson’s Mac-10s are linked to more than 50 shootings and were used in nine London murders, including the shooting in 2007 of Michael Dosunmu, 15 Favoured by drug gangs for its devastating firepower, the military-style weapons became known among inner-city gangs as the “spray and pray” gun.

One of them was fired in Bradford during the robbery in which PC Sharon Beshenivsky was killed in 2005.

Wilkinson, 34, was convicted at Reading Crown Court in August last year of nine firearm offences and faces a minimum of 11 years in jail.

Using the name Grant Wilson, Wilkinson bought 90 blank-firing replica guns in July 2004, which he told the registered dealer in Northolt, Middlesex, were props for a James Bond film.

Inside his workshop police found computer-operated lathes, workbenches, firearms and weapon components in one building and what appeared to be a test-firing range in another.

Wilkinson lived a lavish lifestyle with the profits, driving a Porsche and entertaining his girlfriend in five-star hotels.

Police are still searching for 39 of Wilkinson's Mac-10s and has offered a £10,000 reward for information leading to their recovery.

The gun in Swaby’s possession was found after an observant police community support officer noticed him acting suspiciously near a Mini Cooper car parked in New Road, Mitcham.

Police searched the car, which turned out to be stolen, and discovered 163 grams of pure class A drug MDMA – the pure form of rave drug ecstasy.

Officers then stopped Swaby as he drove a Peugeot 207 in Beddington Corner, Sutton, on June 2 last year, and found £15,000 cash with him.

At the time Swaby had been on the run for two and a half years after being convicted of other drug charges.

During a subsequent search of his flat in Mitcham, officers found several shotgun cartridges and rounds of 9mm ammunition lying on the kitchen worktop.

The Mac-10 loaded with 10 rounds of 9mm ammunition in the magazine was hidden behind a plinth under kitchen cupboards.

At Croydon Crown Court on Friday, Swaby, who pleaded guilty, was handed seven years for possessing a prohibited weapon, three years for possessing ammunition without certificate and 18 months for possessing criminal property.

He was also given six months for driving while disqualified, 12 months for possessing a prohibited weapon and two years for possessing class A drug with intent to supply with all charges to run concurrently.

A police spokesman said Swaby gave Sutton police the false name Vincent Burrows and then swapped to Marcus Burrows.

But fingerprint checks revealed his real identity and that he was wanted by Kingston Crown Court for sentencing on charge of possession with intent to supply class A and C drugs.

Investigations showed he had used the name Marcus Burrows to evade capture from police and even managed to obtain a genuine driving licence with his photo.

The spokesman said Swaby was not connected to any specific gang.

It is not known whether Swaby has used the gun in any other incident.

 

[camslam]

Wilkinson’s Mac-10s are linked to more than 50 shootings and were used in nine London murders, including the shooting in 2007 of Michael Dosunmu, 15 Favoured by drug gangs for its devastating firepower, the military-style weapons became known among inner-city gangs as the “spray and pray” gun.

First to say, this story must be a fake, they don't allow guns like this in England. They are against the law, they have been for some time, and there is no way that criminals can get these guns, because it is against the law.

Wouldn't you love it if just once, the dummies that push for gun control would answer the question:

HOW DO YOU PLAN TO KEEP CRIMINALS FROM OBTAINING GUNS?

Never once have I heard a plan, realistic or not, on what they would do to achieve this impossible fantasy.

Pathetic.

 

[Gamera]

camslam I thought you were being serious at first, then I read your second paragraph *phew*.

But yeah, where there's a will there's a way... (I think that's how that goes)

 

[camslam]

Gamera: I should have put in some rolling eyes, my bad. I just get fed up with the irrational, illogical, indefensible, crap, that people allow to govern them.

I'll never get it, and I am yet to debate, discuss, or argue with an anti, that can answer that question.

Not a fan of the gun laws in England, several states in our own country, and I pray that people keep buying guns, taking responsibility for their safety, and help keep the anti's at bay.

 

[Gamera]

Sadly I fear instead of addressing the issue (that is, that criminals will get guns if criminals want guns), the antis will go on about how "it's easy to convert replica guns to real guns" so we should ban those too

 

[Odd Job]

That's exactly what they did.
They are going after blank firing and replica weapons.
IIRC the guy who made these MAC10s operable originally bought a consignment of 80 blank firing or replica guns from a company that provides movie props. He then converted them to fire live ammo.

 

[Zoogster]

Sadly I fear instead of addressing the issue (that is, that criminals will get guns if criminals want guns), the antis will go on about how "it's easy to convert replica guns to real guns" so we should ban those too

Been doing it since guns became "banned".

They are restricted heavily there already, that is why the guy had to convince them they were being used for a movie. Airguns and even airsoft are also restricted, kids join theatre classes just to play airsoft.
Here in the US someone could use real full auto machineguns for movies with as much hassle as the guy in the story.

Searching for replica, fake, and air gun stories demanding enacting and calling for bans in England I got literaly tens of thousands of different news stories (not exaggerating) calling for more restrictions and bans, far too many to post dating back into the 90's (they banned thier guns in the 90s).
Here is examples:

Call for replica guns ban after shock find; COMMUNITY LEADERS HORRIFIED BY BOYS' DISCOVERY OF WEAPON IN STREET DEMAND ACTION.(News)
Coventry Evening Telegraph (England); Jan 7, 2004; 700+ Words ...calling for a ban on replica weapons after...found a loaded gun in a Coventry...good to have replica guns circulating...like to see a ban on all guns...pick up a gun off the street...owners of replica guns to consider...said: I would ban guns. I don...any type of ... Government vows to ban replica firearms; Move could make toy guns illegal.
Birmingham Evening Mail (England); Mar 8, 2001; 369 Words ...committed to a ban on replica firearms, which...staged by the Gun Control Network...Government aimed to ban replica firearms but...types of toy gun falling under the ban. The GCN exhibition...handle realistic replica and imitation...for a proposed ban on the ... Replica gun ban is long overdue; our views.(Features)
Coventry Evening Telegraph (England); Jun 8, 2005; 183 Words ONLY a year ago, a ban on replica firearms was ruled out by the government...has fuelled a 10 per cent rise in all gun crime. As the Evening Telegraph pointed out in a recent series of articles, replica guns are amazingly easy to get hold...toys which will be excluded from the ban. ... MPs call for a total ban on replica guns.
The Evening Standard (London, England); Nov 5, 2003; 194 Words ...Government today to implement a full-scale ban on replica guns. A group of MPs made the call...which revealed the ease with which replica weapons can be converted into deadly firearms. The Group on Gun Crime called for urgent new laws to...face of mounting calls for a complete ban, the ... British government to ban carrying of replica guns
AP Worldstream; Jan 8, 2003; JILL LAWLESS, Associated Press Writer ; 404 Words ...will outlaw the carrying of replica firearms and air guns in...of efforts to stem rising gun crime, the government said...banning anyone carrying a replica or air weapon in a public place without a good reason. Replica guns are often used in crime...Minister Bob Ainsworth. A ban on carrying ... Ban on replica guns proposed; NATIONAL & INTERNATIONAL NEWS ROUND-UP.(News)
Coventry Evening Telegraph (England); Jun 8, 2005; 114 Words A BAN on the sale of replica guns is expected to be...Parliament, including a ban on all sales to under...manufacture and import of replica guns should be made illegal...station, Coventry, with two replica guns. A ban on the sale of the firearms... Britain to ban carrying replica or air guns in public
Xinhua News Agency; Jan 8, 2003; 204 Words Britain to ban carrying replica or air guns in public LONDON...Wednesday that the carrying of replica guns and air weapons in public...banned in the country. These replica weapons are said easy to...are determined to tackle gun crimes," said Blunkett...effectively with anyone misusing ... Birmingham Post Comment: Replica gun ban.(Comment)
The Birmingham Post (England); Mar 11, 2005; 252 Words ...consider a complete ban on replica guns in a third term...problem exists. Most gun crime does not involve...committed using a replica weapon just as easily as with a real gun capable of firing...allowed to carry a replica when they would not...some adults who keep replica ... STOP THIS TRADE IN DEATH; MPs demand replica gun ban -two years after us.(News)
Birmingham Evening Mail (England); Nov 6, 2003; 319 Words ...called for a ban on replica pistols -two...Parliamentary Group on Gun Crime said the...importation of replica weapons should...framed around replica guns.' Since...from makeshift gun factories in...WEAPON: This is a replica gun, but could you... Ban replica guns plea.(News)
The Birmingham Post (England); May 13, 2004; 206 Words ...urged to impose a complete ban on replica guns as they pledged to reform...Birmingham MP Steve McCabe said: 'Replica guns are a real threat and...But Ministers warned such a ban was unlikely, even though the...of measures to cut down on gun crime after the killing of...Ms Flint said: ... As armed raids soar, a ban on the replica guns.
The Daily Mail (London, England); Mar 8, 2001; Clarke, Michael ; 374 Words Byline: MICHAEL CLARKE REPLICA guns are likely to be banned amid police...are looking to be in a position where replica weapons are outlawed.' Many are sold by mail order to gun enthusiasts. Existing collections are likely to avoid any ban because seizing them would be impractical...to every incident ... Police praise proposed ban on replica guns.(News)
Coventry Evening Telegraph (England); Jun 8, 2005; 342 Words ...Coventry today welcomed a proposed ban on replica guns. The government today outlined...which includes an outright ban on the sale of replica guns. The lookalike weapons...the Evening Telegraph revealed replica guns were also available for... Government to ban replica guns; In brief.
The Evening Standard (London, England); Jun 6, 2005; 249 Words ...Government will this week push ahead with its ban on replica guns - a year after the Home Office said a blanket ban would be unworkable. The new Bill would...manufacture, import and sale of realistic replica guns and make it illegal for anyone under... Ban on replica guns is flawed.
The Evening Standard (London, England); Nov 13, 2003; 308 Words ...three or four a day. Gun crime reached its post-w...to the first serious gun-control legislation...control armed crime. A ban on legally held handguns...misinformed talk about replica guns. It has been wrongly...liberties apart, would a ban on replicas (and try defining one...number? ... Replica gun ban.(News)
Birmingham Evening Mail (England); Jun 8, 2005; 39 Words A BAN on the sale of replica guns was proposed today as the Government set out a new crackdown on firearms in the Violent Crime Reduction Bill. Home Office minister Hazel Blears was proposing stringent restrictions on look-a-like weapons to Parliament Under-18s face knife and replica gun ban.
The Evening Standard (London, England); Mar 10, 2005; 268 Words ...banned from buying knives and replica guns in a new campaign against...enacted within weeks. The sales ban is in Labour's fivepoint mini-manifes...of offences committed using replica guns rose 48 per cent between...headteachers to search pupils for replica guns, and bring in new ... AHERN'S BAN ON REPLICA WEAPON; EXCLUSIVE Pellet gun fans demand laws.(News)
Sunday Mirror (London, England); Dec 14, 2008; 514 Words ...AIRSOFT guns - replica firearms which...like. We want a ban on supplying Airsoft...own an airsoft gun. If there was a...with a complete ban on using them in...use an airsoft gun in public they...include having the gun on view in public...also announced a ban on the issuing... New law is set to ban yobs ( and replica guns.(News)
The Journal (Newcastle, England); Jun 9, 2005; 334 Words ...Government launched its long-awaited assault on violent crime and binge drinking last night with plans to outlaw replica guns and ban drunken yobs from town centres for up to two years. Banning orders will bar louts from specific pubs and clubs with... Big Boys show to ban sales of replica guns.
The Daily Mail (London, England); Nov 13, 2007; 265 Words ...were appalled atthe open sale of lifelike replica guns to minors. Complaints were made to...shotguns, and automatic weapons. The replica guns that were being used were exceptionally...close to a Kalashnikovand some of the replicas on the wall in the RDS were indistinguishable... Blunkett to ban replicas in public as crime soars.
The Evening Standard (London, England); Dec 4, 2002; Taylor, David ; 605 Words ...allowed to buy replica guns. The new law...of an outright ban on replica guns, because a...definition of a replica and how it can...differentiated from a toy gun. Compensation is...arrangements are made for replicas to be handed in...collections. A ban would devastate the ... MENACE OF JAMES BOND TOY GUNS; On sale at pounds 17.99 ... deadly-looking replica police mistake for real thing.(News)
Sunday Mercury (Birmingham, England); Dec 1, 2002; 472 Words ...calling for a ban on a James Bond replica gun - which Midland...calls from the Gun Control Network to ban imitation firearms...more expensive replicas. On making the...owner that the gun should not be...incident involving a replica gun. Research by...public with ... Tough new campaign to outlaw gun replicas.(News)
The Birmingham Post (England); Nov 21, 2002; 405 Words ...can make exact replicas under licence. 'The Gun Control Network is calling for a ban on the sale...our city for replica weapons which...bringing about a ban on the manufacture...direction.' The Gun Control Network...weapons and how a replica gun can be converted... MPs back a ban on replicas.
The Daily Mail (London, England); Nov 6, 2003; 220 Words ...mounting on the Government to ban replica handguns. Action has to be taken to halt a surge in gun crime, warned a cross-party...the 'serious problem' of replica guns and called for a total ban on their manufacture, sale...short of demanding a total ban on ownership, however, ... Ban them!; Alarm at 600,000 replicas in Britain.
Birmingham Evening Mail (England); Aug 10, 2001; 242 Words ...currently examining possible ways to ban replica guns in Britain and have been supported...sell, manufacture and import metal replica firearms and plastic airguns designed...Owners of the estimated 600,000 replicas in private hands in Britain might...moment any adult can buy a copy of a gun ... New law set to ban replicas.
The Evening Standard (London, England); Jul 18, 2001; Taylor, David ; 302 Words ...DAVID TAYLOR A BAN on carrying replica guns in public...of carrying a replica gun in circumstances...massacre to keep gun laws under review...someone with a replica or to possess...with a fake gun could face prosecution...of realistic replica guns after a... AMs call for ban on replica firearms.(News)
Daily Post (Liverpool, England); Jun 29, 2005; 162 Words ...Sandy Mewies have spoken out against replica firearms. They are calling on all other Assembly members to support a ban on imitation guns. Gun crime figures for last year show a 66...crime victims. It is illegal to carry replica firearms in public without reasonable cause and to sell replica ... Government announces ban on carrying replicas.(News)
The Birmingham Post (England); Jan 9, 2003; 399 Words ...Jonathan Walker Political Correspondent A ban on the carrying of replica guns and air weapons was announced...It will make it illegal to carry a replica or air weapon 'in a public place without...limit for acquiring and using an air gun unsupervised will be increased from...who has campaigned for ... Woman's plea for ban on replica weapons on steam railway.
Whitby Gazette (Whitby, England); Feb 27, 2008; 220 Words A WOMAN is calling for a ban on the carrying of replica guns at the North Yorkshire Moors...although the guns may be de-activated or replicas, no-one can tell the difference. Miss...councillors in Pickering to bring in a ban during the annual event which attracts...the difference between a real and ... MP's plea to ban replica firearms; Fears that they may be converted to real weapons in Midlands.
Birmingham Evening Mail (England); Nov 1, 2001; 314 Words ...the Government to ban replica guns as fears grow...drawn up for all replica gun-owners. Mr Mahmood...you could get a replica gun converted. Increased...restrict are exact replicas, many made under...issued by the major gun manufacturers... Replica guns to be banned in new law.(News)
The Birmingham Post (England); Jun 9, 2005; 495 Words ...Walker Political Editor Replica guns are to be banned...of a crackdown on gun crime and binge drinking...campaigning for a ban. They were included...to tackle a growing gun and gang culture since...Mr Mahmood said: 'A ban is something I wholeheartedly...looks like a real gun, even ... Replica guns to be banned.
The Evening Standard (London, England); Jun 6, 2005; 62 Words ...Government will this week push ahead with its ban on replica guns - a year after the Home Office said a blanket ban would be unworkable. The Bill will ban the manufacture, import and sale of realistic replica guns and make it illegal for anyone under... Move on replica guns.(News)
Coventry Evening Telegraph (England); Apr 22, 2005; 117 Words ...indicated new moves towards a possible ban on imitation guns - less than a year...Last May, a government paper said a ban on replica firearms would be impractical. But as...planned a new consultation on a possible ban. He said: We will introduce a flagship...will tackle the ownership and use of ... "Fashion Accessory" Replica Guns to be Taken off London Streets
Xinhua News Agency; Mar 8, 2001; 181 Words ...expected to legislate for a ban on the sale and public display of replica weapons, which are currently...increase of crimes involving replica guns throughout Britain...firearms control would include a ban on certain types of toy guns...resolved is how to define a replica gun in ... Replica guns blitz.(News)
Evening Chronicle (Newcastle, England); Nov 5, 2003; 94 Words ...MPs was today expected to call for a ban on the sale and importation of replica firearms. The all-party Parliamentary Group on Gun Crime was issuing its final report...by the Home Office last month showed gun crime in Britain has doubled since... Call to ban replica handguns.
The Evening Standard (London, England); Mar 7, 2001; Nettleton, Philip ; 181 Words ...CAMPAIGNERS are today lobbying for a ban on imitation guns following...years and is fuelling a growing gun culture. The Gun Control Network, set up after...massacre in 1996, says the trade in replica weapons has rocketed since handguns...robberies are carried out with replica firearms, ... BACKING IN GUN FIGHT; Bid to restrict replicas.(News)
Birmingham Evening Mail (England); Dec 26, 2002; 302 Words ...restrict the sales of replica guns. Coun Mike Leddy...tighter controls on replica firearms and air rifles...raise the age limit on replicas, air rifles and ballbearing...favours an all out ban on replica guns. Following hiscampaign...working on their own replica gun policy to ... Lethally real, the replica gun we bought for just [pounds sterling]100; STANDARD INVESTIGATION REVEALS HOW SIMPLE IT IS TO GET HOLD OF IMITATION WEAPON.
The Evening Standard (London, England); Jun 10, 2005; 452 Words ...easy it is to buy a gun on the streets of...Government plans to ban the manufacture...sale of realistic replica and imitation guns...allowed to handle a gun over it. Selecting...UK crime involving replica guns leapt by 66...In London, total gun crime was down eight...as wide-ranging ... Action call on replica guns.(News)
Coventry Evening Telegraph (England); Nov 5, 2003; 52 Words A REPORT by MPs was today expected to call for a ban on the sale and importation of replica firearms. The all-party Parliamentary Group on Gun Crime was issuing its final report after a summer dominated by high- profile... Replica guns to be banned in America's most dangerous city.
The Evening Standard (London, England); Aug 14, 2006; 77 Words ...banned in Dallas after it was named the most dangerous city in America by the FBI. Councillors have developed a plan to ban replica firearms but others see the measure as a step too far in a city where guns and popular culture are inextricably linked... Traders warned in replica gun blitz.
Peterborough Evening Telegraph (Peterborough, England); Mar 27, 2007; 345 Words ...warnings about selling ball-bearing (BB) and replica guns are being issued to city traders...aiding and abetting if they sell a BB gun to a child or unsuitable person , the...range. At a distance, both BB guns and replica weapons can be indistinguishable from...completely agreed with legislation to ... Met calls for tougher laws on replica guns.(News)
The Birmingham Post (England); Jul 11, 2003; 200 Words ...yesterday. The force called for a ban on all imitation firearms and...said: 'The obvious problem with replica firearms is that of identification...officer, they appear very real.' Replica weapons were also much easier...shootings, involved a converted replica firearm, said a Met spokesman... Blunkett is told: Ban on fake guns is impossible.
The Daily Mail (London, England); Jul 30, 2001; Clarke, Michael ; 403 Words ...is powerless to ban replica guns despite growing...fears concerning replicas were highlighted...lighter shaped like a gun. Derek Bennett...to have only a replica or air gun. Four died. But...was determined to ban replica weapons, Whitehall...definition of a ... Politics & Parliament: Fake gun `fashion accessories' face ban
The Independent - London; Mar 8, 2001; Jason Bennetto Crime Correspondent ; 580 Words REPLICA WEAPONS, the...crimes involving replica guns. Imitation...committed to a ban of some replica weapons. He...position where replica firearms are...of what is a replica firearm is a...under such a ban, and what about...of imitation [gun] that is used...advertisement ... Call to ban fake guns; EXCLUSIVE.(News)
The Mirror (London, England); Feb 7, 2005; 261 Words ...Political Editor A TOTAL ban on replica firearms is being planned...after a dramatic rise in gun crime. The Government...firearms offences involving replica weapons in the 12 months...seized by police include replicas of an Uzi machine pistol...promised an outright ban after seeing a ... Call to ban fake guns.(News)
The Mirror (London, England); Feb 7, 2005; 271 Words ...Political Editor A TOTAL ban on replica firearms is being planned...after a dramatic rise in gun crime. The Government...firearms offences involving replica weapons in the 12 months...seized by police include replicas of an Uzi machine pistol...promised an outright ban after seeing a ... TRAVEL: Bus ban for pupil who fired toy gun. WAR WEEKEND GUN BAN CALL.
Malton & Pickering Mercury (Malton, England); Feb 21, 2008; 359 Words ...PICKERING woman is demanding a ban on guns being carried by...they may be de-activated or replicas but asks who can tell the...council calling on members to ban weapons during the annual...difference between a real and replica gun it should not be allowed and the council should ban ... MP's joy at gun ban in Labour manifesto.(News)

It never ends, tens of thousands...from hundreds of different papers.

 

[Zoogster]

Oh just in case you think England might not be tough enough on crime, they are really tough on guns, here is just some penalties for airguns including some airsoft, nevermind firearms:
http://www.practicalairsoft.co.uk/uk-law.asp

Carrying a loaded air weapon in a public place
6 months imprisonment and/or £5,000 fine

Trespassing with an air weapon
3 months imprisonment and/or £2,500 fine

Trespassing on private land with an air weapon
3 months imprisonment and/or £2,500 fine

Possessing or using air weapon if sentenced to 3 months or more in custody:

In addition:

- if original sentence up to three years

- if sentence of three years or more
3 months imprisonment and/or £2,500 fine



5 year ban on use or posession of firearms.
Life ban on use or posession of firearms.

Killing or injuring any bird or protected animal unless authorised
£5,000 fine

Firing air weapon within 15m/50ft of a road or street
£1,000

Selling or hiring air weapon or ammunition to person under 17
6 months imprisonment and/or £5,000 fine

Making a gift of air weapon or ammunition to person under 14
£1,000 fine

Having air weapon or ammunition with intent to damage property
10 years imprisonment

Having air weapon with intent to endanger life
life imprisonment and/or appropriate fine

Using air weapon to resist or prevent arrest
life imprisonment and/or appropriate fine

Threatening others with an air weapon (even if unloaded) to cause them to fear unlawful violence
10 years imprisonment and/or appropriate fine

Oh check out these suggestions for carrying airsoft guns, you know the ones that shoot plastic bbs. It is about like suggestions here for real firearms:

The Legal Status of Airsoft, and some sensible precautions
Therefore, with the above in mind, and under present legislation, the hobby sport is perfectly legal, provided that you take the proper and common sense precautions.

Ensure that the Airsoft model in your possession does not exceed the power limits for this type of model.
This can be accomplished with ease. Your regular Airsoft gaming site will have a device designed to measure the muzzle velocity of your Airsoft model (a chronograph) to hand.
Using a 0.2 gram 6mm Airsoft BB pellet, measure the muzzle velocity by firing a series of three to five single shots.
If any of the shots exceed the limit for the class of Airsoft model you possess, do not use it, and have an Airsoft model technician (the site should be able to recommend one) reduce the power level to a more appropriate level.
Do NOT show any form of Airsoft model in a public place (other than the shop where you bought it).
When transporting your Airsoft model, put it in a container that can be secured (such as a gun case), in an unloaded condition, safety switch (if fitted) on, and with the battery, if an AEG, or the gas supply, if a gas operated model, removed.
Keep the model, and any ammunition/power source, separate whilst in transit from your home, to the legitimate gaming site where you'll be playing.

 

[Shung]

When transporting your Airsoft model, put it in a container that can be secured (such as a gun case), in an unloaded condition, safety switch (if fitted) on, and with the battery, if an AEG, or the gas supply, if a gas operated model, removed.
Keep the model, and any ammunition/power source, separate whilst in transit from your home, to the legitimate gaming site where you'll be playing.

****... they are talking about TOYS.....

 

[feedthehogs]

****... they are talking about TOYS.....

Awright geeezzaa! Its fer da lizards...... Any idea what an airsoft can do ter a lizard? Devistatin' I tell you, just devistating. Sorted mate.

 

[Gamera]

That is ridiculous, pretty soon people won't be allowed to mention guns...

 

[woodybrighton]

that look like real guns hence police call outs etc
the guy was an out and out crim with a lathe you could make sten guns from scratch. The number of murders with firearms is less than a 100 each year so this guys actions actually affected the national crime stats.
don't think one criminal could really make a dent in US crime stats.

 

[damien]

"Richard Holmes, 21" at a young age already a "music producer" but chooses to publish "disrespectful rap lyrics".

 

[CWL]

Seven years for murdering someone? No enhancements for using a firearm, or all the drugs possession/dealing?

 

[Zoogster]

Seven years for murdering someone? No enhancements for using a firearm, or all the drugs possession/dealing?

He isn't charge with murdering anyone, he is charged with having a gun that was used to murder someone.
In drug and criminal circles guns often change hands many times. This guy was a drug dealer, and people wanting to purchase drugs often trade valuable items for drugs, items including illegal firearms.
Drug dealers are ripe for home invasions and robberies because it is believed they will not go to the police, and they often like to have firearms for defense.


Here is the charges:

At Croydon Crown Court on Friday, Swaby, who pleaded guilty, was handed seven years for possessing a prohibited weapon, three years for possessing ammunition without certificate and 18 months for possessing criminal property.

He was also given six months for driving while disqualified, 12 months for possessing a prohibited weapon and two years for possessing class A drug with intent to supply with all charges to run concurrently.

He is never said to have killed anyone. The gun he owned which was found in his home was once used in a murder according to the detectives.
His charge is just for possessing it not using it.

 

[Pulse]

so it is a fact that in the last 3 years, there where more crimes commited with fully automatic firearms (50 shootings overall, 9 of wich where deadly) in the UK, then in the past 20 years in the USA?

gun control works!

 

[rbernie]

with all charges to run concurrently.

Which means that our intrepid hero gets out in seven?