Rifle Ranges/Shooting Leases in Central Texas (Austin area)?

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Well, another range in Central Texas bit the dust. Austin Skeet and Rifle Range outside of Manor, TX closed its doors a couple weeks ago. This wasn't my favorite range by any means, but it does limit my options even more.

Hill Country Rifle Range (aka Crazy Richard's for the locals), the only range anywhere near Austin that allows NFA firearms, rapid fire, steel targets, .50 BMG, etc. might be going out of business soon as well. Richard has been claiming he's about to close down for the past year or so to run off to West Texas to wait out the End Times. This leaves us Austin area/Central Texas folk with a quandary as to that to do about a decent place to shoot. All the other outdoor ranges in the area have too many unreasonable restrictions on firearm types, ammunition, target composition and rapid fire.

Here are my options:

Eagle Peak in Jonestown: Anti-FMJ, Anti-EBR. Lots of pointless range rules. Must be boycotted at all cost.

Austin Rifle Club: No NFA firearms allowed, no rapid fire, no steel targets. Very much a Bubba/Elmer Fudd/Hunters only sort of group. You have to be "sponsored" to join.

Red's Indoor Range in Pflugerville and Oak Hill: Indoor only, no NFA, overpriced ($13/hour/head), paper targets only.

Stan's Outdoor Range in Seward Junction: very small, only 100yds, no rapid fire/NFA, no steel targets. Very Bubbafied.

Cedar Ridge in Bulverde: Very small, no rapid fire or NFA, no steel targets, too far from Austin.

Tiger Valley/LT Dillon in Waco: Too far from Austin, hardly any public range time as there are always classes going on.

Fayette County Gun Club near La Grange: I don't know much about this range, but it appears their rifle range is kind of an afterthought and its mostly a skeet range... anyone know more? Their website isn't all that informative.

Am I missing any others? Are there other range options I don't know about?

I'd absolutely love to be able to buy a piece of land out in the boonies to turn into a private range for myself and my close shooting friends, but I simply don't have the available income to make that happen with land prices the way they are. We've talked about the possibility of forming some kind of club and raising money to buy land collectively, but its really bloody hard to herd enough cats to get that kind of thing done. I know I sure don't have the knowledge and resources to make that kind of thing happen.

So what we've considered is the relatively rare practice of leasing land for the express purpose of having a place to shoot (as opposed to hunting or cattle grazing, etc). Anyone know one can go about getting information about this kind of thing or how to find landowners interested in leasing their land to shooters? What are the usual market rates for this kind of agreement? Are there generally paperwork/insurance/liability concerns involved (I assume itd be about the same kind of deal as leasing land for hunting, though i hope a lot cheaper)?

Does anyone around here know any landowners who have appropriately sized and located parcels of land within 75 miles of Austin who are willing to lease their property to a group of safe, responsible and respectful shooters? This landowner would have to be willing to have few if any restrictions on the weapons employed and would need to allow things like NFA firearms, steel targets, ideally explosive targets (such as tannerite), 50 BMG rifles, rapid fire, FMJ bullets, etc. In exchange for this leniency, we would be contractually obligated to keep the range safe, clean and build the necessary infrastructure (berms, tables, etc if needed) to ensure liability concerns, that projectiles would not leave the property and that the property would not suffer unreasonable damage. Said parcel of land would also have the ability to support unobstructed (or clearable) firing lanes up to at least 300 meters and optimally up to 1000 meters.
 
One range you didn't mention is Dietz's range in New Braunfels. It's at the limits of the distances you're willing to consider (about as far as Bulverde). Unfortunately for your needs, it also has some restrictions that won't work for you - no rapid fire, paper targets only are the two I can think of off-hand. On the other hand, they have rifle berms at 25, 50, 100, and 200 yards. Also, they're set up mainly for benchrest shooting, with concrete benches at each firing position. Makes it difficult to practice prone, kneeling, or seated shooting positions.
 
The full auto night at Red's is only at the south location and its for subguns only. No full auto rifles allowed.
 
Austin Rifle Club: No NFA firearms allowed, no rapid fire, no steel targets. Very much a Bubba/Elmer Fudd/Hunters only sort of group. You have to be "sponsored" to join.

I believe they allow cans/SBR/SBS, just no FA.

They have a specific Silhouette Range, not quite sure where your "no steel targets" thing comes in. They don't allow steel at close distances (ricochet) but do allow it at certain berms.

Not sure what their rapid-fire policy is.

Definitely not a Bubba range, maybe somewhat a Fudd range. However, I see plenty of folks shooting EBRs there. The "membership" process is slightly annoying, but at least I don't have to deal with idiots much there.

Not an absolutely ideal range, as most of their rules are based around having housing/MSRs in the downrange zone. No combat-type competitions, etc. However, price and location are great, and most folks there are pretty cool.

-MV
 
They have a specific Silhouette Range, not quite sure where your "no steel targets" thing comes in. They don't allow steel at close distances (ricochet) but do allow it at certain berms.

Hmm, I was told that there was no steel targets on the rifle range, only on the pistol. I was also told that theres only one 300yd bay and that it shoots over the range so noone else can be on the range if you want to shoot at 300 or somesuch silliness.

I'd prefer to be able to shoot from any field position (not just the bench) I want at steel human torso targets (not the silly animal shapes) out to at LEAST 300m and to shoot them as fast or as slow as I want.
 
Not sure what their rapid-fire policy is.

The RO told me rapid fire is when you shoot so fast you can't line up the sights to the target before squeezing another round (meaning there's leniency on the rule if you can shot you can control it) . However full auto is not an option even if you can control it. (I thought the manor range had the same policy)

I liked the manor range, the guys even helped me "unstuck" a stuck rifle, but there truly are idiots who go there. They have the rules up and in big bold letters it says NO ALCHOHOL CONSUMPTION, NO RAPID FIRE, DO NOT CROSS THE FIRING LINE and etc. My first time there, these guys come up with a shoe box and pulls out a tech-9 looking thing, a set of wine coolers and proceeds to rapid fire 20 round mags. You can imagine their targets looked like crap after 10 minutes of drinking and rapid firing so they yell out "ceasefire" every 10 minutes or so and run down range to replace the targets themselves.

The last time I went there, a group of 10 people came with 2 rifles. They got bored of shooting the paper targets so they decided to shoot at the wooden posts holding up the target board. It was no accident since after 40 minutes I look over and one whole section of the target board at the 25 yard range FELL OFF. They were literally trying to shoot the target post in half and had done so much damage to it already that the target board became lose.

It sucks to see stuff like that especially to nice people, but it's an accident waiting to happen when guys like that go to the range.
 
If you want to head south there is
Bexar Community Shooting Range
15391 Bexar Bowling Rd.
Marion, Texas
(830) 914-2182

The range is about an hour South of Austin just off IH-10 at the Trainer Hale exit. Membership is cheap but not required, with membership you do get good range discounts. The place is mostly shotgunners but the do get quite a few handgunners and rifle shooters too. During the week I find I have the rifle range to myself a lot which is nice.
They have 2 nice Skeet fields, 2 nice Trap fields and a Country doubles field for shotguns.
For handguns the have a 35 yard range, rapid fire is ok, no ammo restrictions.
For rifles they have 25, 50, 100 and 200 yard range and also have some steel targets at 100 and 200 yards. Rapid fire has never been a problem there either as long as you don't get too carried away and they have tolerated a few burst from my 1919 Browning but have asked me to keep it down after some pretty heavy fired because of neighbor complaints from the noise. I don't think they are too keen on full auto.
 
I hated going to the Manor range myself, for that exact reason: too many idiots. However, its still a damn shame it went out of business. It was a decent place to shoot pistols, but I had no desire to shoot my rifles at generic paper targets.

Hill Country Rifle Range out between Bee Caves and Dripping Springs is still the best range in the area. Richard's "eccentricities" have generally kept most of the idiots scared off but I theres just no way to know when he'll decide that its time for the aliens to land and for him to close up the range for good. I need a more secure place to shoot and one that doesn't inundate me with needless rules. I'm willing to pay a premium for that, but that premium can't (yet) be buying my own rural land.
 
Austin Rifle Club: No NFA firearms allowed, no rapid fire, no steel targets. Very much a Bubba/Elmer Fudd/Hunters only sort of group. You have to be "sponsored" to join.

The board of ARC considered FA a few months ago but ruled against it. Two things come to mind for me. The berms face towards housing and they are very concerned about stray bullets. Also, they have had issues with people tearing up target holders and are probably thinking about the issues with FA fire. Remember, ARC is dedicated to conventional shooting sports, and their mission statement is to educate young shooters. It is a club and they take a lot of pride in maintaining a positive image for the purposes of serving their mission statement. They have decided not to allow FA because it doesn't serve their mission. So be it.

I joined without sponsors, it isn't hard. You need to provide a CHL or background check and once you attend the range orientation, members will sponsor you if they feel you are a safe and responsible shooter. There has been talk of a shooting setup geared towards action shooting, but it is a club and the $$$ aren't just rolling in.

I have never had an issue with rapid fire at the close pistol range or shooting any of my NFA stuff there (SBR, SBS, supressor). You can put up things other than paper, like bottles, cans, and clays, but you have to clean up. When the range is empty you can move up to do close practice, kneeling, holster draws, double taps, etc. There are no rules against multiple target shooting, their main tenants are saftey no matter what. They treat you like an adult, so don't dismiss them baed on what you have heard of Elmer Fudd profiling.

Also, the 300 yard lane cuts across the property (it isn't long enough) thus their rule about shooting when nobody is there. They have a devoted time slot for this shooting that takes precedence over all other range members. Like everything else, you can go and ask the board to vote on it.

Seriously, you do realize that you are asking for the moon without considering the issues involved. You say you are a bunch of responsible shooters, but guess what, for every one of you guys, there are 10 idiots who, even at a club like ARC, tear up the range. Everything that is "public" or deals with the community won't fit you 100%. I think ARC is a good compromise until I can afford my own property.
 
I make it a point to go here at least once a month. It has everything..most importantly, good people. At most, an hour from Austin. "Hill Country Shooting Sports Center." Check out their sight:

There is very little information about their rifle and pistol ranges on their website. They seem to be primarily dedicated to trap/skeet.

How big is the rifle range? What ranges and targets are available? What are the rifle/pistol range rules? What types of firearms and ammunition are not allowed?
 
I don’t care for Eagle Creek same reasons stated by the OP. The couple of times I met Red he was an ass so he doesn’t get my money either.

Hill Country had a nice set up. I think Richard pulled the 425m ringers and the range is limited to 250 now. I heard he sold the place and I also heard he didn't, so who knows. Call ahead before you take the drive.

Austin Rifle Club has a beautiful range however no full auto allowed.

The Austin Skeet/rifle range east of manor is ok. I've see a lot of unsafe behavior there. Pretty much zero range control. They used to allow class3 but I don’t know if they still do. I think the range is absolutely not set up for it but they're kind of loose with safety imo.
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I would like to ad, that Richard can be eccentric but he's a good guy and knows a lot about guns and shooting. I would rather pay to shoot at his range then shoot at Red's or Eagle Creek for free.
 
Hill Country had a nice set up. I think Richard pulled the 425m ringers and the range is limited to 250 now. I heard he sold the place and I also heard he didn't, so who knows. Call ahead before you take the drive.

As of a couple weeks ago, Hill Country Rifle Range is still in operation. And yes, He did pull the steel targets down off the 400m berm and put them on the 200m berm since apparently he was having a dispute with one of his neighbors as to who actually owns the top of that hill. This is quite a shame as shooting steel from field positions with iron sights at 400m is a helluva lot of fun and damn good practice.

However, Richard still claims he's sold the place and he will be leaving "soon", now whether that is dependent on real events or something he's, um, "discovered" through his unique interpretation of scripture and world events remains to be seen. HCRR is my regular range and still my favorite range, and I get along very well with Richard, however it is still an insecure place to shoot and I need to have a place to go once he finally does close up. Civilization is creeping at a very rapid pace down Hamilton Pool Rd. and its fairly obvious that no matter what Richard decides that range's days are numbered.

Its looking more and more like Im going to have to get a second job so that I can take on another mortgage for a piece of land where I can shoot the way I want to without getting hassled by benchrest bubbas and range nazis.
 
Anyone have any options or suggestions for shooting leases? Or is this sort of thing simply not done?
 
Where are all you Austin/Central Texas guy shooting these days? Hill Country Rifle Range is still in business as of a couple weeks ago, but I'm still looking for someplace better since I know HCRRs days must be numbered.

I've already started saving and investing some money to come up with a down payment on my own rural land, but I'm wondering what other options there are for pro-FMJ, pro-NFA, pro-50cal, pro-steel targets outdoor ranges near Austin. Austin Rifle Club is not really an option for me and I desperately hate shooting at Red's. The scumbags at Eagle Peak don't even warrant my mentioning them.
 
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I fully agree with the OP. God I wish someone who was a gun person would open a gun range around here.
 
How can you join the Austin Rifle Club?

I think the Austin Rifle Club would be a good option for me. I just can't seem to get a reply to my email inquiries. So, how do you become a member of the Austin Rifle Club?
-peabody304
 
I think the Austin Rifle Club would be a good option for me. I just can't seem to get a reply to my email inquiries. So, how do you become a member of the Austin Rifle Club?
-peabody304

Please be patient with the membership committee. This is the time of year when membership renewals are going on, so they are basically doing paperwork on every single member right now. Also, the "committee" consists of like 3-4 volunteers (all club members), so they're swamped. They'll get back to you.

Mac
 
Please be patient with the membership committee. This is the time of year when membership renewals are going on, so they are basically doing paperwork on every single member right now.

That makes sense. Thanks for the info.

-peabody
 
You could just go to the General meeting the 3rd Thursday of the month (you just missed it) and introduce yourself to a few friendly faces. Ask about how you get sponsored and someone will most likely be happy to vouch for ya....don't act crazy and you're in.
 
I went down to Hill Country Rifle Range this past Sunday. They were indeed still open, but its pretty obvious its days are definitely numbered. Theres a new housing development going up right across the back fence, in fact theres a new model home being built right next to the dirt road going down to the range from Hamilton Pool Rd.

Richard also informed me that he has doubled his range fees and no longer allows NFA rifles out on the rifle range due to some problems with another neighbor who apparently found rifle bullets in his yard. Apparently submachineguns are still permitted on the pistol range however.

The situation is getting steadily worse. There are fewer places for me to shoot with reasonable rules and the price of land is getting insanely high. Are there really no more good places to shoot in and around Austin?

Barring that, anyone know of any decent very rural land for sale within a tolerable drive (2 hours or less) of Austin thats under $3000/acre?
 
Minor hijack: check out THR's "Rallying Point" subforum for the next Austin Area THR Shoot. We're aiming to have a big social get-together and shoot sometime this March.

-MV
 
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