Rohrbaugh R9s versus Ruger LCP
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MachIVshooter
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OK, and?
swright101
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How's that Rohrbaugh shoot? I've been wanting a pocket-size 9mm and have been looking hard at these. Pricey, but I figure it's a one time purchase for something that might just save my life someday. I've handled the Kahr's, Kel-Tec's, and I have a little NAA 22lr. But NObody has a Rohrbaugh in stock so I can't fondle one, let alone shoot one.
JohnBT
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Thanks for the photos, they answered a couple of questions I had. I've never seen an LCP, but have an R9.
The R9 is a handful. Similar in a lot of ways to shooting a 16-ounce Airweight loaded with 158-grain .38 Spec. or +P LSWCHP.
John
The R9 is a handful. Similar in a lot of ways to shooting a 16-ounce Airweight loaded with 158-grain .38 Spec. or +P LSWCHP.
John
1KPerDay
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Thanks for the pics... I'm always interested in size comparisions between different pocket guns.
45crittergitter
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The R9 is a 9mm which costs somewhat less than what my life is worth. The LCP is a .380 which costs even less. Therefore, there is no comparison.
RUT
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Ummm, how about "day vs. night"??
The Kahr PM9 and PM40 are scarcely larger than the R9 and STILL a fraction of the cost. I love my P40 for carry- it's a pocket cannon! But the LCP and the P3AT are far lighter guns than the R9- and thinner- which makes them much more "pocketable" IMO. If I owned a R9, I think I'd keep it in a safe, lol.
Vid of the R9
Vid of the R9
coyotehitman
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Nice picture, is that the new Keltec?
Kahrs really are bigger. Kahr pulls the same trick that Glock does, telling you the slide length instead of the overall length. My MK40's actual dimensions are...
5.6" long
4.3" high (including sights and magazine)
1.08" wide across the slide release
0.98" wide across the grips and the slide (same width)
Personally, though, I'm happy with it as a pocket carry gun. Yes, it's heavy. So is a belt gun. After a few days, you get used to it. After a few months, you walk crooked without it.
I am really thinking of saving up for a Seecamp .380, though, as an "always" gun. Backup if I've got another one on me, primary only if I really can't manage to hide anything else.
5.6" long
4.3" high (including sights and magazine)
1.08" wide across the slide release
0.98" wide across the grips and the slide (same width)
Personally, though, I'm happy with it as a pocket carry gun. Yes, it's heavy. So is a belt gun. After a few days, you get used to it. After a few months, you walk crooked without it.
I am really thinking of saving up for a Seecamp .380, though, as an "always" gun. Backup if I've got another one on me, primary only if I really can't manage to hide anything else.
1KPerDay
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I handled the PM9 back to back with a P3-AT and the PM9 still seemed extremely small. The 380 is friggin' tiny but the PM9 seemed amazingly small. I'm seriously thinking about one.
rohrbaugh 9mm
I bought the Rohrbaugh R9s new a year or
so ago...it was a jam-o-matic...
and when it jammed it was not a tap-rack and bang fix either
I mean it was JAMMED...had to hold slide open
and TRY and wiggle the magazine out and free the hung
up round...it was ALL STOP... I would not recommend the
Rohrbaugh for any defensive application...it may be
a fun thing to own and show your buddies..
but if you need to protect yourself or others pass it and
get the other...at least that is what I have done...
I sold my Rohrbaugh and do not miss the thing
at ALL!
I have no experience with the new rohrbaugh 380 and suspect
that is the more approriate caliber for its size and weight and
may work fine...but the 9mm I owned was rejected by me
for, of all things, a kel-tec RF9 which has thus far functioned flawlessly!
go figure.
I bought the Rohrbaugh R9s new a year or
so ago...it was a jam-o-matic...
and when it jammed it was not a tap-rack and bang fix either
I mean it was JAMMED...had to hold slide open
and TRY and wiggle the magazine out and free the hung
up round...it was ALL STOP... I would not recommend the
Rohrbaugh for any defensive application...it may be
a fun thing to own and show your buddies..
but if you need to protect yourself or others pass it and
get the other...at least that is what I have done...
I sold my Rohrbaugh and do not miss the thing
at ALL!
I have no experience with the new rohrbaugh 380 and suspect
that is the more approriate caliber for its size and weight and
may work fine...but the 9mm I owned was rejected by me
for, of all things, a kel-tec RF9 which has thus far functioned flawlessly!
go figure.
Different experience.
Well, I've had a much different experience with the Rohrbaugh than has gringolet.
Had mine for about three years. Put probably 300 rounds through it. Which is a *lot* for such a small gun. Requires a recoil spring change every 100 rounds, but they're cheap (like $5). Had some problems with jamming at first, but it was me - the thing is so small, so closely machined, that you have to really hold onto it for it to cycle properly. Once I understood this, I had no problems. YMMV.
It is amazingly small. And full 9mm (not +P). Whenever I really need something I can slip into a small pocket, it goes along. I trust it implicitly.
That said, I carry a 642 about 90% of the time as my pocket gun. I just shoot it better at distance - comfortable making cans jump to about 25 yards. The R9 in my hands is good for the same thing to about 10 yards - what it is designed for. But the 642 is substantially bigger.
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Well, I've had a much different experience with the Rohrbaugh than has gringolet.
Had mine for about three years. Put probably 300 rounds through it. Which is a *lot* for such a small gun. Requires a recoil spring change every 100 rounds, but they're cheap (like $5). Had some problems with jamming at first, but it was me - the thing is so small, so closely machined, that you have to really hold onto it for it to cycle properly. Once I understood this, I had no problems. YMMV.
It is amazingly small. And full 9mm (not +P). Whenever I really need something I can slip into a small pocket, it goes along. I trust it implicitly.
That said, I carry a 642 about 90% of the time as my pocket gun. I just shoot it better at distance - comfortable making cans jump to about 25 yards. The R9 in my hands is good for the same thing to about 10 yards - what it is designed for. But the 642 is substantially bigger.
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DAdams
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Rohrbaugh
Here is a 17 page thread regarding the R9 on the Seecamp Forum.
http://www.seecamp.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1127653791
Then when you get finished you can go to the Rohrbaugh Forum for comparison with Seecamps.
Here is a size weight comparison from the Seecamp site with many pistols.
bobo's is still a better refererence. The Ruger is not on this yet.
http://seecamp.com/SizeWeight.pdf
My choices.
PM 9 and Seecamp .380. If I didn't have the Seecamp I would probably give the Ruger a shot.
I mostly carry a M&P 340 J frame at 13 ounces or the Seecamp at 11.5 ounces (no load weights, mag in the Seecamp).
Here is a 17 page thread regarding the R9 on the Seecamp Forum.
http://www.seecamp.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1127653791
Then when you get finished you can go to the Rohrbaugh Forum for comparison with Seecamps.
Here is a size weight comparison from the Seecamp site with many pistols.
bobo's is still a better refererence. The Ruger is not on this yet.
http://seecamp.com/SizeWeight.pdf
My choices.
PM 9 and Seecamp .380. If I didn't have the Seecamp I would probably give the Ruger a shot.
I mostly carry a M&P 340 J frame at 13 ounces or the Seecamp at 11.5 ounces (no load weights, mag in the Seecamp).
DAdams
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Comparison Shots
are useful and enlightening.
Rohrbaugh R9 and a Seecamp. 32/380s are the same size.
Seecamp and a J Frame
Seecamp 380 and M&P 340 J Frame both in DeSantis Nemesis Holsters.
340 shown with Hogue Monogrips.
R9 and Kahr MK40 Which is the same size as the PM9.
Kahr PM 9 and a PM .380
PM9, Walther PPS, KelTec PF-9 all 9s.
Seecamp and Walther PPK
NAA Derringer and Seecamp
Ghost Shots credit goes to Playboy Penguin.
are useful and enlightening.
Rohrbaugh R9 and a Seecamp. 32/380s are the same size.
Seecamp and a J Frame
Seecamp 380 and M&P 340 J Frame both in DeSantis Nemesis Holsters.
340 shown with Hogue Monogrips.
R9 and Kahr MK40 Which is the same size as the PM9.
Kahr PM 9 and a PM .380
PM9, Walther PPS, KelTec PF-9 all 9s.
Seecamp and Walther PPK
NAA Derringer and Seecamp
Ghost Shots credit goes to Playboy Penguin.
45crittergitter
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As was previously mentioned, you do have to hang on to the R9. If you have a grip that's just a bit weak, you will have function problems. That is why I have the R9 instead of my arthritic wife having it. You have to hold it HARD. Also, someone mentioned keeping it in the safe. For a self defense weapon, that would be a sad place for your next-of-kin to find it after your .380 didn't work fast enough, and even an R9 is a very minor expense compared to everything else if you get in that situation. The ambulance, doctor, and lawyer will each cost far more. I pay more every year for conventional life insurance policies than I paid once for an R9.
tinygnat219
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I for one want a small 9MM pistol where the recoil spring won't have to be changed every 100 rounds, and doesn't cost 1100 dollars.
I would take the LCP over that overpriced boutique gun 10 times out of 10.
I would take the LCP over that overpriced boutique gun 10 times out of 10.
krs
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Any itty-bitty pansy gun that you have to fret about your grip with is a lousy self defense weapon.
To me R9's look suspiciously similar to Keltecs. They're made in the same state aren't they? Might be interesting to read the respective SEC filings to see what names appear.
I don't carry my most valuable Colts because I'd hate it when they impound it should I ever have to use it, which will happen whether you're right or wrong and can sometimes take several months to maybe never before the gun is returned to the owner.
To me R9's look suspiciously similar to Keltecs. They're made in the same state aren't they? Might be interesting to read the respective SEC filings to see what names appear.
I don't carry my most valuable Colts because I'd hate it when they impound it should I ever have to use it, which will happen whether you're right or wrong and can sometimes take several months to maybe never before the gun is returned to the owner.
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