Right up there with Paris Hilton, You Tube and the Sopranos
Ron Paul, an internet phenomenon:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19258641/
Ron Paul, an internet phenomenon:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19258641/
He has never voted to raise taxes.
He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
He has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
He has never voted to raise congressional pay.
He has never taken a government-paid junket.
He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.
He voted against the Patriot Act.
He voted against regulating the Internet.
He voted against the Iraq war.
He does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program.
He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year.
I see your intriguing fact and raise you eleven:
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He has never voted to raise taxes.
He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
He has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
He has never voted to raise congressional pay.
He has never taken a government-paid junket.
He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.
He voted against the Patriot Act.
He voted against regulating the Internet.
He voted against the Iraq war.
He does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program.
He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year.
Source:
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/about/
Your idea of "self defense" is to shoot your attacker--and everyone else on the street, just for good measure. That's not just immoral; it's sociopathic.
Hey again Marshall. You're doing an admirable job here taking on all comers, but I'm afraid you're intentionally skewing the argument. There are a lot of people who are really fed up with the idea of America sending it's young men and women out to kill anyone who might someday try to hurt us.
To try to answer your question without going into 7 other avenues of discussion, it's not the fear of terrorists, at least for me. It's wanting to do what we can to lessen the odds of a major city or town experiencing a catastrophic event that could kill 10's of thousands, by people that would love to do, and are trying and planning to do just that, or something similar. Heck, even a shopping mall full of women and kids. Once one happens, many might start happening.
Not only would it be tragic as hell, but it would have far reaching consequences that go from economic, clear to more rights and freedoms that we all love, possibly becoming more compromised than anything you see today.
Your idea of "self defense" is to shoot your attacker--and everyone else on the street, just for good measure. That's not just immoral; it's sociopathic.
budney,
Come on man, Again. you're putting down,"what YOU believe our troops are doing in Iraq", and telling me that's my idea of self defense. First of all, I can't believe YOU think our troops are shooting "anyone else on the ground" not just our attacker, like we're rogue savages coming in to murder anyone in our way. If that was true this Iraq war would have been over for a long time now. You've stooped lower than low now.
However, I'm not really trying to argue anything here. I was just pointing out my opinion as to why a lot of people are "fearful" of terror attacks, which was a question asked. snip I think that's pretty descriptively accurate as to why a lot of folks don't want to see more terror attack on US soil. Do you not?
budney,
Come on man, Again. you're putting down,"what YOU believe our troops are doing in Iraq", and telling me that's my idea of self defense. First of all, I can't believe YOU think our troops are shooting "anyone else on the ground" not just our attacker, like we're rogue savages coming in to murder anyone in our way.
A lot of innocent people are getting caught in the crossfire over there, and it's easy for me to sit here and say "yeah, well that's the fault of those damn terrorists!" but the friends and family of those killed might just see it a different way. That's where the argument that "we're making things worse for ourselves" comes from, or at least that's my take on it.
Everyone? No. But you don't honestly believe that Iraq had 30,000 Al Qaeda members, do you? That's how many Bush admitted the war had killed. The current number is at least double that.First of all, I can't believe YOU think our troops are shooting "anyone else on the ground" not just our attacker, like we're rogue savages coming in to murder anyone in our way.
I would have thought it would be interesting to everyone.The Bill of Rights Spoken.
Hey guys I found this I thought you guys would appreciate it.
http://www.dailypaul.com/files/songs/bor.mp3
The practice of using earmarks -- federal grants for projects in congressional districts -- to secure support on certain bills never worked for Paul. His opposition to most federal funding was so uniform that he refused to use federal grants to help pay for the college educations of his five children. Despite representing one of the most hurricane-prone areas in the nation, Paul opposes the National Flood Insurance Program.
"It's amazing to me" that voters keep re-electing Paul, said Dude Payne, a Democratic county commissioner in Brazoria County, where Paul lives. Paul's biggest asset -- besides his slogan, "The Taxpayer's Best Friend" -- probably is his consistency, said Payne, who pointed out that even after the controversial 2003 Texas redistricting added more Democratic voters to Paul's district, he beat a Democrat with about 60 percent of the vote.
"I don't think anybody can beat him," Payne said. "He pretty much votes no on any kind of pork."
June 19, 2007
Iowans for Tax Relief and Iowa Christian Alliance will host a presidential candidates forum on Saturday, June 30th in Des Moines. Republican presidential candidates Mitt Romney, Sam Brownback, Jim Gilmore, Mike Huckabee, Tommy Thompson, and Tom Tancredo will participate.
Ron Paul, however, will not participate. Why? Because he wasn’t invited.
We heard about this forum from numerous supporters in Iowa who asked why Dr. Paul was not going to participate. Those supporters assumed that Dr. Paul was invited.
The campaign office had not received an invitation so we called this morning; thinking we might have misplaced the invitation or simply overlooked it. Lew Moore, our campaign manager, called Mr. Edward Failor, an officer of Iowans for Tax Relief, to ask about it. To our shock, Mr. Failor told us Dr. Paul was not invited; he was not going to be invited; and he would not be allowed to participate. And when asked why, Mr. Failor refused to explain. The call ended.
Lew then called Mr. Steve Sheffler, president of the Iowa Christian Alliance, to talk with him. Mr. Sheffler did not answer so Lew left a message. He has yet to respond.
Why are the Iowans for Tax Relief and the Iowa Christian Alliance excluding the one Republican candidate who scored at the top of every online poll taken after the MSNBC, Fox News, and CNN debates? Why are they denying Iowans the opportunity to hear from the Republican presidential candidate whose popularity is growing by the day?
We couldn’t get answers to these questions from Messrs. Failor and Sheffler. Maybe you’ll have better luck. Their contact information is below.
It's ironic that on the same day we learned the Iowans for Tax Relief and the Iowa Christian Alliance excluded Dr. Paul from their candidates forum, we received a call from ABC News confirming Dr. Paul’s participation in its nationally broadcast August 5th debate to be held in Des Moines.
Kent Snyder, Chairman
Ron Paul 2008
Contact Information
Edward Failor
Iowans for Tax Relief
2610 Park Avenue
Muscatine, Iowa 52761
Phone: 563-288-3600 or 877-913-3600
Fax: 563-264-2413
E-mail: [email protected]
Steve Sheffler, President
Iowa Christian Alliance
939 Office Park Road, Suite 115
West Des Moines, Iowa 50265
Phone: 515-225-1515
Fax: 515-225-1826
E-mail: [email protected]
Iowans for Tax Relief and the Iowa Christian Alliance
Ron Paul, as great as he is, is a fringe candidate who isn't going to get anywhere close to a nomination.
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May I ask why we do not have these debates in a completely public forum? And everyone should be involved not excluded, and do not think I am just for Ron Paul but I would be upset even if they excluded Rudy, the American people have the right to hear from all parties not just the ones the venue they will be at wants them to hear from. That is called censorship. ^ regarless of his ability or possibility of nomination what he has to say is something people need to be reminded of.