Ruger 77/44 or 357 rear sight ideas

[R.W.Dale]

Before I pull the trigger on a skinner bbl mounted sight for my 77/44 I would like to garner ideas from some of you guys as to alternatives. Personally I've never used a mid mount aperture sight so I'm skeptical about their effectiveness.

 

[Hookeye]

Burris Fastfire

 

[chicharrones]

Personally I've never used a mid mount aperture sight so I'm skeptical about their effectiveness.

I haven't tried the Skinner barrel mount, but I've tried a Williams and a Mojo barrel mount aperture. I did not like them better than a notch sight on the barrel and sold them both after trying them out.

I've heard good things about the NECG rear sights for Ruger 77 rifles, but I'm not sure if you have to change your front sight to match the height or not.

http://www.newenglandcustomgun.com/Gun_Services/item_info.asp?Brand_id=4197&ST=Ruger Peep Sight#.WEyLwX34YrU

http://www.newenglandcustomgun.com/Gun_Services/item_info.asp?Brand_id=6128&ST=Ruger Ghost Ring Peep Sight#.WEyLM334YrU

 

[NeuseRvrRat]

I've got a Mojo on a Swedish Mauser. It's actually their Snap Sight version, which replaces the front post with another aperture sight. Works for me. Much better than a notch and post, in my opinion. About to put another set on a K31.

I've got receiver-mount Skinners on a couple lever guns. I wouldn't hesitate to put a Skinner on a barrel if putting one on the receiver wasn't possible.

Both the NECG and the Skinner will require a taller front post.

 

[CoalTrain49]

I put a 1-4 Leuplod scope on mine.

If you want a ghost ring I would seriously consider the NECG peep sight. Very adjustable.

http://www.majorpandemic.com/2011/10/ruger-77357-7744-and-7722-sight-options.html

 

[R.W.Dale]

The rifle currently wears a zeiss 3x9x40 that serves no purpose whatsoever on a fairly inaccurate carbine.

No I want to completely optic and de battery this particular little woods gun. I've go a 2-7 Leupold on a particularly lightweight 300bo carbine that fits the role this 44 would were it scoped.

 

[JRadice45]

I had a skinner sight on a 77/357. Removing the aperture made it useable. I liked it much better than the stock sight, however i left the rifle scoped with a leupold 1-4 hog scope and never looked back.

 

[CoalTrain49]

I had a skinner sight on a 77/357. Removing the aperture made it useable. I liked it much better than the stock sight, however i left the rifle scoped with a leupold 1-4 hog scope and never looked back.

My feeling also. Accurate enough to take advantage of a 1-4X scope. The thing about some of those scopes is at 1X they have a nice 40' field of view. Nice brush gun and the scope is usable. Anything more powerful is a waste of glass and just makes a nice light little carbine too heavy.

 

[redbone]

"...on a fairly inaccurate carbine." Have you tried bolt shims?

 

[R.W.Dale]

"...on a fairly inaccurate carbine." Have you tried bolt shims?

It's on my to do list. Please share your experience with them.

I've had 4 rifles on this platform and all were on a pretty equal footing in terms of accuracy or the lack thereof. None were shimmed to my knowledge.

 

[HoosierQ]

I have Tech-Sights on my 10-22 and I love that set up. I conversed directly with the fella at Tech Sights and they have no plans to make similar for the 77/357. Can't really blame him given the relatively low number of these guns compared to 10-22 and Model 60s. A nice rear aperture would be nice on these. One company makes one that is designed for the Ruger Number 1 and it will fit but it does not get good reviews on a 77/357...at least it will fit although the front sight may have to be changed.

 

[redbone]

R.W.:

I have a 77/44 with a 3-9x40 ProStaff. I installed a Volquartsen 77/22 target sear when I first bought it several years ago, which changed the trigger from mediocre to very good. It was not a bad lightweight carbine like that, I've only ever shot it with Hornaday Leverevolution and WWB 240 grain SJSP factory ammo. It was about a 4", 100 yard rifle (in my old, shaky hands, anyway). I just recently installed a 0.004" shim and have only shot it enough to check the sights before deer season. My impression is that it's now a 2" or 3" rifle, but that's not really a very firm number as I have not shot it off a bench yet, just a few quick sitting shots on a somewhat windy day. A couple of 3 shot groups led me to think it might be a 1.5" rifle, but that needs to be verified. As expected, the shim did not change the POI. Once deer season is over, I'll do some more shooting and see what its really doing. For no more than what the set of shims cost, I think its worthwhile to give it a try and see what happens. And, if you like a lighter trigger, the target sear is a great investment.