Ruger LCP .380 ACP

[julianamj7]

Just purchased this Model and put app. 150 rds. thru it.
Winchester, Indepedence (federal), and TulAmmo.
Having some ejection problems. The least of the ejection problems are with the TulAmmo which I thought would be the worst.

Anyway there isn't anything in the manual saying I should put 200 to 300 hundred rds. thru it to break it in, The pistol is pretty tight. Anyone having a problem with ejecting empty cases?

Thanks

 

[1KPerDay]

What exactly is happening? Stovepipe? Or failure to extract from the chamber?

I had ZERO malfunctions from round one in mine.

 

[barstoolguru]

you are limp wristing the gun! before you freek out on me watch the video and I think it will help and correct your problem.. good luck and happy shooting


just a little advice grip up higher to the slide so the flelhy part of you hand in against the back of the gun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysa50-plo48

 

[julianamj7]

As stated in my question, having intermiten EJECTION problems.

 

[JDGray]

My LCP never missed a beat, but ejection pattern was unpredictable. Brass everywhere, but the last one out always went over my head. Is yours not ejecting brass? Or throwing brass in all dirrections?

 

[julianamj7]

Fails to EJECT on occasions. Sent Ruger an email explanning the EJECTION problem and they sent me an email saying if I have JAMMING problems to send it back.
I sent them another email explanning it is an EJECTION problem NOT jamming unless they consider that the same problem.
Waiting to hear back from Ruger.
Thanks

 

[JDGray]

Not ejecting the brass will cause a jam, send it back Your gun is extracting the brass, then what? Is it falling on your feet? Hanging up in the ejection port?(Jam)

 

[heeler]

Julianamj7,Did you throughly clean and relube the pistol before taking it out and firing it??
Also after the intial cleaning and relube I like to rack the slide a couple of hundred times to loosen up the recoil spring and help mate sliding parts before taking the pistol to the range for the first time.
I did this very thing to my LCP and it has been 100% and it has more than 150 rounds through it.
Hope this might help.

 

[julianamj7]

Just got an email from ruger...told me to check the guide rod and spring make sure it's installed properly.
Shot the LCP right out of the box then cleaned and lubed the slide rails worked better.
The spent case was left in the barrel...NOT ejecting.
Pistol seems fairly tight so I will put another 100 or so rds. thru it if it still won't eject every rd. ruger will send me a label to return the pistol for observation.
The manual doesn't tell you to put x amount of rds. thru it for break in.

 

[JDGray]

The spent case was left in the barrel...NOT ejecting.

That would be not extracting, does it double feed? The exractor pulls the spent case out of the chamber, and when it hits the tip of the ejector, it flips it clear. If the case is not coming out, you have an extractor issue.

 

[julianamj7]

ejection problem
extracting problem

Sounds about the same to me.

 

[MICHAEL T]

ejection problem
extracting problem

Sounds about the same to me.

Not the same One trouble with extractor. Other is trouble with ejector 2 different parts

My self I wonder if your limpwristing now and then .

 

[76shuvlinoff]

I'm at around 300-350 rounds with my LCP, not a single issue yet.

And yes it may seem like semantics to you but extraction failures and ejection failures are two different issues.

Good luck with it

 

[Jackal1]

Ejection and extraction are two different events that occur after the bullet has left the barrel. Extraction occurs first, followed by ejection. What you have is an extractor issue.

Try to have an experienced shooter shoot your gun with some of the offending ammo and see if the problem pursists... if the problem still occurs contact Ruger about your extractor.

Good Luck!

 

[JDGray]

ejection problem
extracting problem

Sounds about the same to me.

Almost, but not quite... Tell Ruger its not extracting all the time, and have them e-mail you a shipping label. Then all you need to do is box it up, and take it to a UPS hub.

 

[CZguy]

Try to have an experienced shooter shoot your gun with some of the offending ammo and see if the problem pursists... if the problem still occurs contact Ruger about your extractor.

Beat me to it. Good advice.

 

[holdencm9]

Try manually racking a round out of the chamber. Do it with a snap cap, or if none are to be had, live rounds in a safe manner with finger very far from trigger. If the extractor pulls the cartridge right out and it ejects, then I would lean toward limp-wrist. If not, then maybe the extractor is the culprit.

 

[loadedround]

Not to rain on anyone's parade but if you return your pistol to Ruger expect a turn around time of at least 5 weeks. That was my experience with a SR1911 just received back from Ruger after a having a locked up slide with my first magazine of factory ammo.

 

[julianamj7]

Thanks for all the info. Will try everything you suggested!

 

[julianamj7]

The fired round case stays in the barrell, on occasions.

 

[Jackal1]

Call Ruger and ask them to pay the shipping both ways. Box up your gun and enclose a brief statement saying what's wrong. Drop the box off at fedex or ups (whoever ruger uses). When you get it back try it out and let us know if it works ok or not.

 

[dubya450]

I'd have another person shoot it before sending it in just to make sure you're not limp wristing. I had an lcp and know they are prone to limp wristing. If its still having extracting issues send it in. Ruger has very good customer service and they'll treat you right. Might not be fast, but they'll make it all good. Congratulations on the new LCP and welcome to THR by the way.

 

[rskent]

Extraction problems seem fairly common on LCPs. A few people at the range where I shoot have had problems with
them. I had to send mine to Ruger for the same problem. They polished the heck out of the chamber. I worked pretty
well after that.
Steve

 

[BADUNAME37]

Following the owner's manual, remove the barrel, making sure you place the guide rod and associated springs in a place where you can reassemble them in the same OEM orientation.

Drop the 'offending' cartridges into the chamber (rear of barrel) one at a time. All the cartridges should lay in the chamber and the base of the cartridges should be exactly flush with the rear of the chamber/barrel. If the cartridges are out a bit, try pushing it in with your finger until flush, then try to push the cartridge back out through the muzzle.

You should see markings on the bullet and/or on the case, where the case headspaces at the mouth. If the casings are a tad too long or not properly taper-crimped, it could be a problem with that batch of ammo.

If it is happening with more than one kind of ammo, do the same thing with any other that are a problem to see if those cases or bullets get stuck.

Thoroughly clean the barrel/chamber, then try the above "test" again with the same cartridges (and/or others from the same lot). Cleaning the barrel and chamber may resolve the cartridges not fully-seating or it may not have changed anything. Our hope is that it did, in fact change things so every cartridge freely drops into the chamber and every cartridge's base is flush with the rearward end of the barrel/chamber.

Since the gun fires, but then fails to extract-eject, my take on it is you will see that the case itself is hanging up within the chamber/barrel, most likely at the taper crimp (the mouth of the case where the bullet is seated). Too tight a taper and the cartridges may fall a bit deeper into the chamber (below flush with the rear of the chamber), too little taper and the cartridges may hang on the mouth of the case, where the tapered crimp should be. You DO NOT WANT THE CARTRIDGES to be inserted deeper than the headspace of the tapered crimp as a wedging effect is happening and when the gun is fired, that wedge effect increases pressure dramatically!

 

[fas111]

Ruger does not recommend the use of steel case ammo. Are most of your problems with the Tula ammo?