From what I've read it seems most people prefer a decocker over a safety/decocker. Is there any reason other than not wanting a safety on your pistol? Could you replace the safety with a decocker in the newer 95s? Thanks for any answers.
Ruger p95 DC / safety
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In the P95 I prefer the "DC" model...
I just don't like "safties that go up"... Rugers, S&W 3rd Gen, Walther and all the clones... it's not a natural motion for my thumb and more times than not I will have to shift the gun in my hand to deactivate the safety.
It's not something I want to have to do on a draw stroke in the one second that my life depends on.
It's the reason I eventually sold my S&W 411, and got a SA XD-40 instead.
Decockers are fine with me. (Beretta, Sig, etc.) I'll keep my Bersa Thunder .380. It has a "safety notch" on the hammer and I use that instead of the safety.
I just don't like "safties that go up"... Rugers, S&W 3rd Gen, Walther and all the clones... it's not a natural motion for my thumb and more times than not I will have to shift the gun in my hand to deactivate the safety.
It's not something I want to have to do on a draw stroke in the one second that my life depends on.
It's the reason I eventually sold my S&W 411, and got a SA XD-40 instead.
Decockers are fine with me. (Beretta, Sig, etc.) I'll keep my Bersa Thunder .380. It has a "safety notch" on the hammer and I use that instead of the safety.
mgmorden
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Safeties on pistols - particularly double action guns where the trigger has a heavy first pull anyways - are often seen as redundant and just another thing that can go wrong in the heat of the moment.
The decocker-only option gives you the ability to safely decock the hammer but ensures that you can't inadvertently set the pistol to a state where it will not fire when you need it to.
I personally have one of the safety versions but I would trade it in a heartbeat for the decocker-only model if I had the chance.
As far as conversion - you can go from one to the other only by swapping slides.
The decocker-only option gives you the ability to safely decock the hammer but ensures that you can't inadvertently set the pistol to a state where it will not fire when you need it to.
I personally have one of the safety versions but I would trade it in a heartbeat for the decocker-only model if I had the chance.
As far as conversion - you can go from one to the other only by swapping slides.
easyg
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With a decocker-safety there is always the possibility that the user might decock but forget to place the weapon on "fire".
Such an incident could get the user killed in a self defense situation.
With a decocker only model this can't happen.
Such an incident could get the user killed in a self defense situation.
With a decocker only model this can't happen.
As far as I'm concerned the long and heavy inital DA trigger pull IS the "safety" on a DA/SA gun, so I really don't need a manual safety on top of that.
Frame mounted decocker/safeties don't really bother me so much, but slide mounted ones I hate. As others have mentioned, they can be accidentally left on safe if you have to rack the slide to clear a malf, they're not as natural to disengage as most frame mounted safeties, and it's just plain in the way when I'm manipulating the slide. It actually hurt a little when using the overhand method to reload my Stoeger Cougar.
Frame mounted decocker/safeties don't really bother me so much, but slide mounted ones I hate. As others have mentioned, they can be accidentally left on safe if you have to rack the slide to clear a malf, they're not as natural to disengage as most frame mounted safeties, and it's just plain in the way when I'm manipulating the slide. It actually hurt a little when using the overhand method to reload my Stoeger Cougar.
I have guns that decock only, those that are a safety/decock and those without manual safety. It makes no difference to me as DA pistols are carried chamber loaded without the safety on. Same draw aim squeeze action to use when needed. If I get to the point mentally where I don't know what the condition of my handgun is and accidentally leave safeties on (or off) then its time to stop carrying.
Omaha-BeenGlockin
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No issues with my P95 safety model----get used to your gun and it doesn't really matter.
railroader
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I have a p95 that I converted from decock/safety to decocker. It is my home defense gun and my wife might have to use it. I want a gun that is completely reliable with a pull of a trigger. I don't want a safety that can be bumped on. To convert it, the slide, trigger bar and ejector needed to be changed. This gun use to be an all blue safety model.
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