Apocalypse-Now
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you would think so, but i've seen ruger, beretta, and glock send brand new replacement guns with different serial numbers straight to people's homes. kinda surprised me too.
Ruger P97DC Frame Crack!
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you would think so, but i've seen ruger, beretta, and glock send brand new replacement guns with different serial numbers straight to people's homes. kinda surprised me too.
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outcome?
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They are replacing the frame and I am still waiting for it to arrive. Seem weird that it is taking so long but I will wait for something if it is done right.
JTQ
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Like many other folks I'm fascinated by this issue. I do hope it works out to your satisfaction.
I think it is really pretty neat they are giving you a new frame for a long out of production pistol. I would have expected them to send you one of their new models. I would have been disappointed with that, but I would have understood.
A big thumbs up to Ruger.
Since the P97 has been out of production for so long, Ruger probably has some guy scouring a warehouse looking for a dusty box of P97 frames. Possibly even trying to find the old form to pour some new polymer for a single frame.
I think it is really pretty neat they are giving you a new frame for a long out of production pistol. I would have expected them to send you one of their new models. I would have been disappointed with that, but I would have understood.
A big thumbs up to Ruger.
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Reasons why i love Ruger and do not mind buying fresh on the market guns from them. If it breaks send it back and get a new one with the issues fixed.
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Update! They have now decided to send a new p345? I guess I'm ok with it, I will really miss that p97. One question do p345's have a decocker?
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Decocker with a safety I think. Mark
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Alright, I have My brand spanking new P345! A few initial observations.
The good
1. The new P345 is stiff and very, very, very tight. I tried to rack the slide the first time and it took my english mastiff and three circus monkeys to move it. Ok, not that tight but damn it was tight. A few more pulls on the slide and it started to get better. This pistol will need to be broke-in.
2. The grip is far more ergonomic. At least as good as my 1911. I know blasphemy but I'm serious, it is pretty great!
3. My 5 extra mags fit the P345 from my P97! WOO-HOO! That means no paying extra to restock mags. It also came with two mags.
4. The P345 is much thinner than the old P97. For some reason it also feels lighter?
5. Single action trigger pull feels about three pounds or less. Not as light as my Super Blackhawk .44 mag( it is borderline dangerous maybe) trigger. Not far from hair but not combat either. It is about perfect.
6. Regular, +P, or +P+ it can take anything. At least that is what the manual says.
The Bad
1. You have to have the magazine in the P345 for it to fire or to practice dry fire drills. Kind of lame. The manual says you can dry fire it but only with the magazine in the gun.
2. Double action trigger is 10 pounds or so, and quite a long pull too. I do have hope it will get better with break-in being that the P345 is so stiff and tight.
I know, not alot of bad! I can get used to everything. All in all I'm a happy camper!
The good
1. The new P345 is stiff and very, very, very tight. I tried to rack the slide the first time and it took my english mastiff and three circus monkeys to move it. Ok, not that tight but damn it was tight. A few more pulls on the slide and it started to get better. This pistol will need to be broke-in.
2. The grip is far more ergonomic. At least as good as my 1911. I know blasphemy but I'm serious, it is pretty great!
3. My 5 extra mags fit the P345 from my P97! WOO-HOO! That means no paying extra to restock mags. It also came with two mags.
4. The P345 is much thinner than the old P97. For some reason it also feels lighter?
5. Single action trigger pull feels about three pounds or less. Not as light as my Super Blackhawk .44 mag( it is borderline dangerous maybe) trigger. Not far from hair but not combat either. It is about perfect.
6. Regular, +P, or +P+ it can take anything. At least that is what the manual says.
The Bad
1. You have to have the magazine in the P345 for it to fire or to practice dry fire drills. Kind of lame. The manual says you can dry fire it but only with the magazine in the gun.
2. Double action trigger is 10 pounds or so, and quite a long pull too. I do have hope it will get better with break-in being that the P345 is so stiff and tight.
I know, not alot of bad! I can get used to everything. All in all I'm a happy camper!
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That reminds me, I need to send in my sr-556 bolt.
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I have a buddy who owns an older 345, his doesn't need the mag in to fire and when he puts the mag in it will release the slide on its own. He likes his because of the two "features", where his old man's is like yours, needing the magazine in to fire. It's not too bad of a weapon, my only complaint is it flips higher than I am used to.
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7 Rugers at present and 2 more got away. I traded my Security Six for a 6.5" Blackhawk (good trade for me, much better shooting gun) and had a SP101 for a while, kinda want another. Only thing that ever broke on any of mine was the mag release spring on my KP90DC broke. It's a pretty flimsy spring. Ruger had one in my mailbox in 3 days. 
Sounds like they done you right, new gun. Congrats.
Sounds like they done you right, new gun. Congrats.
JTQ
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I'm glad it worked out for you.
I have handled the P345 on many occasions and agree, it does have a similar grip feel to my 1911. Similar width and trigger reach.
Congratulations on your new pistol, and thumbs up to Ruger for standing behind their product.
I have handled the P345 on many occasions and agree, it does have a similar grip feel to my 1911. Similar width and trigger reach.
Congratulations on your new pistol, and thumbs up to Ruger for standing behind their product.
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I do love my Rugers. About the only problems that you have with them are if they are older models stuff starts to break. If they are brand new released models they seem to have problems. One thing on that, my dad always told me to never buy the first new mocel or remodel of a car( mustang redisigns for instance). The thing is Ruger will fix anything old or new. I wish car manufacturers were this great.
Ruger must have redesigned the recoil system on the P345, if you say it is that hard to rack the slide. I had one 6yrs ago, and the slide was very easy to rack, and it threw brass at least 25' on ejection. It had a very light recoil spring, with a very heavy damper spring to cushion the slide at the end of its travel. Mine was a laser to shoot, hope yours serves you well!
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I really like my P345. I've fired about 400+ rounds through it so far in the couple weeks I've owned it. It's swallowed several different brands of ammo and several varieties of my reloads with nary a hiccup. I had to lower the rear sight about three clicks to get on target at 25yds so it was very close to on the mark right out of the box. I've fires some pretty hot handloads through this pistol and some much weaker indoor range loads with no malfunctions at all. The DA trigger pull has gotten a little bit lighter but was always smooth and linear feeling with a clean break. SA is very good. The ergonomics are great for me. I hate to say it but I prefer it to my old Colt 1911. I know, I know, that's heresy but there it is. Anyone would be hard put to do better for the money.
BTW - my pistol is a very easy two finger rack, lighter than my SR9 which is pretty easy. You might want to look at the recoil spring and make sure it's not hung up on something.
BTW - my pistol is a very easy two finger rack, lighter than my SR9 which is pretty easy. You might want to look at the recoil spring and make sure it's not hung up on something.
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I have since hand racked it a few times and it is getting better. I will say it feels great in the hand.
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About six years ago I had a problem P97 which the factory agreed to take back (and destroy). The new one had of course a different serial number and had to go to an FFL. I promptly put the new one on consignment and that was that.
About 25 years ago I had a WWII GI Remington Rand .45 frame crack at the slide stop hole. Colt not only agreed to sell me a frame if I sent the original in, but sold a Gold Cup frame to boot. They stamped the original RR serial number on it. I keep a .22 conversion unit on it, and it looks just like a Gold Cup until you see the muzzle. If anyone ever ran the serial number and it came back as a RR GI pistol it would cause some real puzzlement...
About 25 years ago I had a WWII GI Remington Rand .45 frame crack at the slide stop hole. Colt not only agreed to sell me a frame if I sent the original in, but sold a Gold Cup frame to boot. They stamped the original RR serial number on it. I keep a .22 conversion unit on it, and it looks just like a Gold Cup until you see the muzzle. If anyone ever ran the serial number and it came back as a RR GI pistol it would cause some real puzzlement...
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I need to buy more Rugers.
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Today is ..45 weather. It's one of the rare days in South Texas, after a good front, that I can wear an added vest for a cover garment over a loose shirt. Most of the year I carry a pocket gun, Kel Tec P11 usually. Today, I have my KP90DC in my Sparks Summer Special. When I get home, it'll come off for the KT, but it's nice to actually carry it once in a while because I shoot it so well. I think it's the absolute best P gun Ruger ever produced, a good trigger with easy DA/SA transition, match grade accuracy, built to take 10mm (the original intent of the model), a Hogue grip makes it feel OH so nice in the hand and indexes rapidly on the draw, and flawless function. Its only down side is its bulk, but with high temps in the 60s, a vest covers that bulk nicely. It only weighs 33 ounces unloaded, so weight on a belt is not a problem.
Unfortunately the P90 is no longer in production. I don't really like the P345 nearly as well. It's a good gun, a bit less bulk, but I'll keep my KP90DC.
When I get home, it'll come off for the KT, but it's nice to actually carry it once in a while because I shoot it so well. I think it's the absolute best P gun Ruger ever produced, a good trigger with easy DA/SA transition, match grade accuracy, built to take 10mm (the original intent of the model), a Hogue grip makes it feel OH so nice in the hand and indexes rapidly on the draw, and flawless function. Its only down side is its bulk, but with high temps in the 60s, a vest covers that bulk nicely. It only weighs 33 ounces unloaded, so weight on a belt is not a problem. Unfortunately the P90 is no longer in production. I don't really like the P345 nearly as well. It's a good gun, a bit less bulk, but I'll keep my KP90DC.
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