Kynoch
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Quite true...Ares already did; but I'm not sure if they can compete on price and manufacturing capacity.
Quite true...Ares already did; but I'm not sure if they can compete on price and manufacturing capacity.
I wonder if over time they'll phase out their pricier offerings like the 77 and the No. 1.I agree that it was a very sound business move and it's a move that Ruger knows quite well.
Ruger has always been a second stringer when it comes to say bolt-action rifles with their M77 brand. The standards were long Winchester and then Remington and if you wanted to spend a bit less or were an accuracy purist you went with a Savage.
When Ruger introduced the low-priced American (with a Savage-inspired accuetrigger) I think they were sort of conceding the higher priced bolt market. They are doing very well with their American, it offers a great deal of bang for the buck (pun intended) and it's putting pressure on their aforementioned competitors to offer more for less.
Ruger is now doing the same thing with their new AR. I think they have concluded that the SR (like the M77) is sort of an also-ran and that other peoples' ARs are eating away at their Mini franchise so now they are jumping into the market.
I'm sure a Ruger American in .223 costs nearly the same to build and market as an AR-556. Bud's currently has Ruger Americans for $342.00. I hope that means we're headed for $349.00 or even $299.00 AR-556s...
I wonder if over time they'll phase out their pricier offerings like the 77 and the No. 1.
Good question. With the No. 1 they are one of the few games in town and they have been pretty aggressive about raising the price of it, so it will last as a low volume, high margin product.
I've read a good deal of complaints, here and elsewhere, concerning the quality of the American series.
They're still made...I long for the day that non-pistol gripped, center fire semi autos are made again...............
I didn't see where they said what the barrel was made from.
The need to put out the LCP in 22tcm, a super Blackhawk in .223, and make an LCR 6 shot 32acp. They then need to get their name on another new, good cartridge for medium game. They have .204 now, but something in the .338 bore size straight walled, long, and strong would be really nice for folks in states allowing only straight walled cases for deer hunters.
THIS!As disappointing as yet another AR is, I'll be the devil's advocate here: Manufacturers produce boring because the gun buying public buys boring. Doing something new and innovative is a huge risk for a company, especially given how resistant gun buyers actually are when it comes to new products.
In some ways, it's a no win situation for a manufacturer. If a manufacturer comes up with a new round or platform, the gun buying public bellyaches that said new product does nothing that existing products X, Y, and Z already do and that the new product is just a marketing gimmick to boost sales. On the other hand, if they go the boring route, doing nothing really new, we'll whine about how boring it is, but we will buy those boring products as long as we can get the, for a few dollars cheaper than the same product made by their competitors.
It's nice to see ruger doing what it needs to do to stay current, but would be much nicer to see them do something more innovative. The need to put out the LCP in 22tcm, a super Blackhawk in .223, and make an LCR 6 shot 32acp. They then need to get their name on another new, good cartridge for medium game. They have .204 now, but something in the .338 bore size straight walled, long, and strong would be really nice for folks in states allowing only straight walled cases for deer hunters. NEXT would be the American rifle with a smoke pole barrel. That gun is a hit in centerfire and rimfire, make it a muzzle loader and change the game with it. Put a .209 primer in the bolt and let that seat directly into the breech.
This AR though which we all know is the same parts assembled as those making other guns such as spikes or dpms. Whoopty-friggin-doo. They should have gone American AK and cornered the market.
I am still amazed that Ruger has not knocked-off the AK-74. That's right up their alley and now that AK prices have risen, they could make a buck at it.
It is cold hammer forged I see, which makes sense, since Ruger has the machines.
I would guess the black oxide finish indicates it is nitrocarburized.
I long for the day that non-pistol gripped, center fire semi autos are made again...............
ok ok ok....
When I said :
I didn't mean it so literal.
I don't want to derail the thread but what I meant was more in the sense of " What new non-pistol gripped, center fire semi autos have come out recently? "
To list the household names in the AR game we have Remington, Smith & Wesson, Colt, Mossberg, Ruger....maybe more I'm not thinking of at the moment.
To list the household names in the AK game we have....