Rumsfeld caught lying yet again...

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Which seems extremely unlikely since it was he who was demanding publicly that the white house declassify the entire text of his testimony so it can be made public.

Sorry, I think he's bluffing. The only people who have said that he wasn't guilty of perjury are a few died-in-the-wool Democrats already in on the bait-and-switch, and they're only relaying the impressions of their "staffers." In other words they've taken no responsibility for what they've said, meaning that it's basically meaningless. At first blush it appears that Clarke lies to the public, but is much more conscious of legal ramifications when he's actually testifying.

I sincerely hope they catch him though. It'd be fitting. And they very well might.
 
"I find it outrageous that the president is running for re-election on the grounds that he's done such great things about terrorism. He ignored it. He ignored terrorism for months, when maybe we could have done something to stop 9/11. Maybe. We'll never know."

In the testimony he said they were working on it an that it was ready to be implemented when 9/11 happened and that nothing he had proposed would have changed 9/11.

Clarke, under oath, said it would not have stopped 9/11.

Under oath, he said the Bush folks worked on it but he did not think they saw it as urgent. In public he says they "ignored terrorism for months".

So his prior public statement was a lie.

I think I will go with the sworn testimony, thank you.


I don't believe anyone did all that should/could have been done but Clarke has contradicted himself so much that he is not a credible source to prove anyone lied...except himself.
 
The only people who have said that he wasn't guilty of perjury are a few died-in-the-wool Democrats already in on the bait-and-switch
If that is true, then Clarke would have been brought up on charges. He hasn't. The White House has not brought Clarke up on perjury charges. The Republican Senate and House have not brought Clarke up on perjury charges. They haven't done so, because they know darn well that they *can't* because he hasn't lied under oath.

Remember, Clarke spoke under oath. Rice refuses to speak under oath. Who is the liar? It's clear which side is lying. Bush is lying through his spokesperson, Rice. The Republican Party is a failure on terrorism. They ignored Islamic fundamentalist terrorism for the first 9 months of the Bush "presidency". They were (and still are) fixated on Iraq instead of Islamic fundamentalist terrorism.

Shifts from bin Laden hunt evoke questions
By Dave Moniz and Steven Komarow, USA TODAY

WASHINGTON — In 2002, troops from the 5th Special Forces Group who specialize in the Middle East were pulled out of the hunt for Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan to prepare for their next assignment: Iraq. Their replacements were troops with expertise in Spanish cultures.

The CIA, meanwhile, was stretched badly in its capacity to collect, translate and analyze information coming from Afghanistan. When the White House raised a new priority, it took specialists away from the Afghanistan effort to ensure Iraq was covered.

Those were just two of the tradeoffs required because of what the Pentagon and CIA acknowledge is a shortage of key personnel to fight the war on terrorism. The question of how much those shifts prevented progress against al-Qaeda and other terrorists is putting the Bush administration on the defensive.

Even before the invasion, the wisdom of shifting resources from the bin Laden hunt to the war in Iraq was raised privately by top military officials and publicly by Sen. Bob Graham, D-Fla., and others. Now it's being hotly debated again following an election-year critique of the Bush administration by its former counterterrorism adviser, Richard Clarke.

"If we catch him (bin Laden) this summer, which I expect, it's two years too late," Clarke said Sunday on NBC's Meet the Press. "Because during those two years when forces were diverted to Iraq ... al-Qaeda has metamorphosized into a hydra-headed organization with cells that are operating autonomously, like the cells that operated in Madrid recently."
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http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2004-03-28-troop-shifts_x.htm?csp=24
 
If that is true, then Clarke would have been brought up on charges.

I imagine because there's a small issue of building a case. There is also the matter of whether he told an outright factually verifiable lie, but I'm rather amazed at the lax standards you apply to Clarke (who has clearly been telling two completely different versions of the same story for a long time, and who has demonstrably lied to the public, although possibly not actually under oath) and the standards you apply to Bush and the people in his administration. Ferinstance:

Remember, Clarke spoke under oath. Rice refuses to speak under oath. Who is the liar?

Update: I originally thought that Rice was testifying under oath, but apparently that's not the case. I guess that's the whole point of executive privilege, which is an essential component of the President's capacity as Commander in Chief. The legal theory is that by waiving that restriction she'd be establishing a precedent that upsets the balance of powers between the executive and congress. Too bad, because she could probably settle these wild allegation Clarke is making.

"If we catch him (bin Laden) this summer, which I expect, it's two years too late," Clarke said Sunday on NBC's Meet the Press. "Because during those two years when forces were diverted to Iraq ... al-Qaeda has metamorphosized into a hydra-headed organization with cells that are operating autonomously, like the cells that operated in Madrid recently."

Which is precisely what Shays criticized him for. He thinks the "war on terror" is a hunt for Bin Laden. It never has been. In fact, the monumental foolishness of concluding that we could have quelled terrorism by simply tracking down Bin Laden is almost breathtaking. It is precisely what people have been calling the "criminal justice paradigm" that had failed utterly under Clinton, and that Bush has turned around. Man I really hope Clarke slipped up and lied, because I'd really love to see him spend a few years in prison for this grossly self-serving distortion and undermining of a genuinely inspired anti-terrorism strategy.
 
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If we catch him (bin Laden) this summer, which I expect, it's two years too late," Clarke said Sunday on NBC's Meet the Press. "Because during those two years when forces were diverted to Iraq ... al-Qaeda has metamorphosized into a hydra-headed organization with cells that are operating autonomously, like the cells that operated in Madrid recently.

I expect it would be 10 years too late since Clarke failed to get "actionable intelligence" under two presidents in 2 1/2 terms.

He wants no responsibility for failing the country. Oh, I know he did his little meek apology act for the public but then he runs around pointing fingers at everyone else. What a loser. The lapdog press following him around are even worse since they are supposed to be unbiased.:scrutiny:
 
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I expect it would be 10 years too late since Clarke failed to get "actionable intelligence" under two presidents in 2 1/2 terms

Good point. I really can't believe they actually think they can pin 9/11 on Bush, especially by making the lame argument that Clinton responded to the Y2K threat. Anyone recall what the hysterical buildup to Y2K was like? The notion that there might be a terrorist attack in the midst of all that isn't all that far-fetched, compared to some obscure day at the end of summer.

The problem is that Bush is not responding with enough conviction, and as preposterous as it is some of these allegations might stick. I have often wondered why Bush never invested much energy into justification of the Iraq War, but left the argument largely up to proxies. My impression is that the proxies are getting a little tired of carrying the load in the absence of a President not quite willing to fight for himself.

Anyway, this fellow Clarke is the epitome of the political runt, and my guess is that his overconfidence led him, at some point, to step over the line between spin and perjury. I just have a hunch.
 
I really can't believe they actually think they can pin 9/11 on Bush

He has enough of his own problems without them trying to spin new ones.

I'm not giving him a free pass by any means. I think both parties need to do some house cleaning. I don't like losing my privacy rights for possible safety benefits. But I do understand that if he didn't tighten up our security and we had another attack then the hounds of he-- would descend on him with the Clarkies of the world cheering them on.
 
I really can't believe they actually think they can pin 9/11 on Bush,

That's not the argument. Straw man.

I have often wondered why Bush never invested much energy into justification of the Iraq War,

Aside from Bush's repeated lies - er, I mean, "misstatements" that he made during primetime, in his state of the union speech, every chance he got, etc.

my guess is that [Clarke's] overconfidence led him, at some point, to step over the line between spin and perjury. I just have a hunch.

Guesswork and hunches are no substitute for doing homework.

Perjury? You haven't even seen his classified testimony before Congress. How can you possibly make that determination?

(Don't bother answering; it's a rhetorical question. You've read as much of Clarke's classified testimony before Congress as you have his book.)

I expect it would be 10 years too late since Clarke failed to get "actionable intelligence" under two presidents in 2 1/2 terms.

Wrong. He and US intelligence agencies developed actionable intel about Osama bin Laden at his compound Tarnac Farm. Both Clarke and CIA field officers handling the Afghan theatre advocated a strike using CIA Afghan assets against OBL. Others in the US gov voiced doubt and opposition for various reasons*, so there was a not a consensus, and the US gov decided to execute the plan.

*Doubts about the reliability of the intel, doubts about the dependability of the CIA's assets, questions about the possibility of collateral damages, political fallout in the event of mission failure.

Rice can probably testify, but according to the legal interpretation they're utilizing doing so would set a precident that would undermine the executive in time of war..

Precedent already established.

Too bad, because she could probably settle these wild allegation Clarke is making.

Lol. Sure she will! She made the rounds of the talkshows to state the case and talk about why she couldn't talk about it. She opens her mouth and a press release comes pouring out.

when 9/11 happened and that nothing he had proposed would have changed 9/11.

What would've happened if the Bush people had focused more on AL Qaeda and less on Iraq? Would they have prevented 9/11? Only God knows.

In fact, the monumental foolishness of concluding that we could have quelled terrorism by simply tracking down Bin Laden is almost breathtaking. It is precisely what people have been calling the "criminal justice paradigm" that had failed utterly under Clinton, and that Bush has turned around.

Paradigm, smearadime. Targeting the enemy's command and control is a tried and tested method of reducing his ability to wage war.

In public he says they "ignored terrorism for months".

He does? Please identify the date and place where he said that Bush "ignored terrorism for months." If he stated this in his book, please identify the page number.

The only people who have said that he wasn't guilty of perjury

Oh please. He isn't guilty of anything until a court finds him guilty.

Condoleezza Rice Says She's Constitutionally Barred From Testifying Publicly Before 9/11 Panel (03-28-2004, AP)

Flip.

Condoleezza Rice to testify on 9/11 (03-30-2004, Reuters)

Flop.

Check this out. Two more former national security employees are talking.

Flynt Leverett, from February 2002 to March 2003 Leverett was Senior Director for Middle East Affairs on President Bush's National Security Council He is a former CIA analyst and Middle East specialist. He is now a visiting fellow at the Saban Center for Middle East studies at the Brookings Institution.

Col. Patrick Lang, retired Army officer who served as head of Middle East and terrorism intelligence for the Department of Defense during the late 1980s and early 1990s.

How long will it take Karl Rove to start up smear campaigns against these two?
 
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What would've happened if the Bush people had focused more on AL Qaeda and less on Iraq? Would they have prevented 9/11? Only God knows.

Of course the real question is would the 9/11 attacks have still proceeded if Bubba Klintoon had agreed to the Sudanese offer to hand Bin Laden over to US authorities. Makes one wonder where Clarke was when this offer occurred.

And whether any serious action against Al-Queda might have stopped the attacks had Klintoon and Clarke ever ordered such during Klintoon's eight years in office, instead of their focusing on feeble half steps designed to distract attention from Klintoon's impeachment.
 
Of course the real question is would the 9/11 attacks have still proceeded if Bubba Klintoon had agreed to the Sudanese offer to hand Bin Laden over to US authorities. Makes one wonder where Clarke was when this offer occurred.

When and when exactly did the Sudanese government allegedly make this offer? Which Sudanese government officials made the offer? To whom did they make it? Was it a written offer or an oral offer? If it was oral, which American official heard the offer? If it was an offer in writing, who has a copy of the Sudanese offer?

Take your time.
 
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Take your time

Not necessary, despite Albright and Berger's parsing before the 9-11 commission of the meaning of the word "offer," the story is well documented.

This first story below is confirmed in a January 2002 Vanity Fair article by former US Ambassador to the Sudan: Timothy Carney, and is a first hand account:


Clinton Let Bin Laden Slip Away and Metastasize
Sudan offered up the terrorist and data on his network. The then-president and his advisors didn't respond.


By MANSOOR IJAZ
President Clinton and his national security team ignored several opportunities to capture Osama bin Laden and his terrorist associates, including one as late as last year.

I know because I negotiated more than one of the opportunities.

From 1996 to 1998, I opened unofficial channels between Sudan and the Clinton administration. I met with officials in both countries, including Clinton, U.S. National Security Advisor Samuel R. "Sandy" Berger and Sudan's president and intelligence chief. President Omar Hassan Ahmed Bashir, who wanted terrorism sanctions against Sudan lifted, offered the arrest and extradition of Bin Laden and detailed intelligence data about the global networks constructed by Egypt's Islamic Jihad, Iran's Hezbollah and the Palestinian Hamas.

Among those in the networks were the two hijackers who piloted commercial airliners into the World Trade Center.

The silence of the Clinton administration in responding to these offers was deafening.

As an American Muslim and a political supporter of Clinton, I feel now, as I argued with Clinton and Berger then, that their counter-terrorism policies fueled the rise of Bin Laden from an ordinary man to a Hydra-like monster.

Realizing the growing problem with Bin Laden, Bashir sent key intelligence officials to the U.S. in February 1996.

The Sudanese offered to arrest Bin Laden and extradite him to Saudi Arabia or, barring that, to "baby-sit" him--monitoring all his activities and associates.

But Saudi officials didn't want their home-grown terrorist back where he might plot to overthrow them.

In May 1996, the Sudanese capitulated to U.S. pressure and asked Bin Laden to leave, despite their feeling that he could be monitored better in Sudan than elsewhere.

Bin Laden left for Afghanistan, taking with him Ayman Zawahiri, considered by the U.S. to be the chief planner of the Sept. 11 attacks; Mamdouh Mahmud Salim, who traveled frequently to Germany to obtain electronic equipment for Al Qaeda; Wadih El-Hage, Bin Laden's personal secretary and roving emissary, now serving a life sentence in the U.S. for his role in the 1998 U.S. embassy bombings in Tanzania and Kenya; and Fazul Abdullah Mohammed and Saif Adel, also accused of carrying out the embassy attacks.

Some of these men are now among the FBI's 22 most-wanted terrorists.

The two men who allegedly piloted the planes into the twin towers, Mohamed Atta and Marwan Al-Shehhi, prayed in the same Hamburg mosque as did Salim and Mamoun Darkazanli, a Syrian trader who managed Salim's bank accounts and whose assets are frozen.

Important data on each had been compiled by the Sudanese.

But U.S. authorities repeatedly turned the data away, first in February 1996; then again that August, when at my suggestion Sudan's religious ideologue, Hassan Turabi, wrote directly to Clinton; then again in April 1997, when I persuaded Bashir to invite the FBI to come to Sudan and view the data; and finally in February 1998, when Sudan's intelligence chief, Gutbi al-Mahdi, wrote directly to the FBI.

Gutbi had shown me some of Sudan's data during a three-hour meeting in Khartoum in October 1996. When I returned to Washington, I told Berger and his specialist for East Africa, Susan Rice, about the data available. They said they'd get back to me. They never did. Neither did they respond when Bashir made the offer directly. I believe they never had any intention to engage Muslim countries--ally or not. Radical Islam, for the administration, was a convenient national security threat.

And that was not the end of it. In July 2000--three months before the deadly attack on the destroyer Cole in Yemen--I brought the White House another plausible offer to deal with Bin Laden, by then known to be involved in the embassy bombings. A senior counter-terrorism official from one of the United States' closest Arab allies--an ally whose name I am not free to divulge--approached me with the proposal after telling me he was fed up with the antics and arrogance of U.S. counter-terrorism officials.

The offer, which would have brought Bin Laden to the Arab country as the first step of an extradition process that would eventually deliver him to the U.S., required only that Clinton make a state visit there to personally request Bin Laden's extradition. But senior Clinton officials sabotaged the offer, letting it get caught up in internal politics within the ruling family--Clintonian diplomacy at its best.

Clinton's failure to grasp the opportunity to unravel increasingly organized extremists, coupled with Berger's assessments of their potential to directly threaten the U.S., represents one of the most serious foreign policy failures in American history.

Mansoor Ijaz, a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, is chairman of a New York-based investment company.

http://www.infowars.com/saved pages/Prior_Knowledge/Clinton_let_bin_laden.htm

Some additional sources:

"Resentful West Spurned Sudan's Key Terror Files", 'The Observer' (London), 30 September 2001,

"US Rejected Sudanese Files on al-Qaeda", 'The Financial Times'
(London), 30 November 2001.

US Missed Three Chances to Seize Bin Laden", 'The Sunday
Times', (London), 6 January 2002


The attempts by Albright et al. to deny the story are rebutted very well here in this second story:

Miniter responds

By Richard Miniter

Denial is more than a river in Egypt. It runs through the Clinton administration's Sudan policy.
As the media attention on my book "Losing bin Laden" grows and it climbs the New York Times bestseller list, some former Clinton officials have emerged to deny the undeniable. (See Op-Ed at left.) They deny that Sudan ever offered to arrest bin Laden and turn him over to American justice, they deny that Sudan ever offered to share its intelligence files on bin Laden's terror network, and they offer excuses for President Clinton's failure to retaliate following bin Laden's attack on the USS Cole (which killed 17 sailors). Since the facts and the on-the-record accounts of senior Clinton officials are against them, they are reduced to parsing words and obfuscatory statements. That's unfortunate. The point of examining Mr. Clinton's flawed war on terror is not to condemn the former president, but to learn from his successes and his setbacks and apply those lessons to the current phase of America's war on terror.
In that spirit, let's examine the record and see how well those denials hold up.
mArresting bin Laden. They write nearby that "no offer was ever conveyed to any senior official in Washington." Does Sandy Berger, the former National Security Advisor, count as a senior official in Washington? Here is what Mr. Berger told the Washington Post's Barton Gellman: "The FBI did not believe we had enough evidence to indict bin Laden at that time and therefore opposed bringing him to the United States." If there was no offer, just what offer was the FBI evaluating and opposing? Or is Mr. Berger telling tall tales?
Other senior Clinton officials are on the record debating the merits of taking bin Laden into custody from Sudan. Susan Rice, an assistant secretary of state under Mr. Clinton, told the Village Voice: "They [the Sudanese] calculated that we didn't have the means to successfully prosecute bin Laden. That's why I question the sincerity of the offer."
You can't doubt the sincerity of an offer that doesn't exist. Perhaps the Clinton administration overlooked that Sudan had handed over the infamous terrorist, Carlos the Jackal, to the French. He now sits in a French prison, while bin Laden is free. As Ambassador Timothy Carney argued in 1996, even if the offer wasn't serious, why not call Sudan's bluff? If Sudan failed to deliver, then the skeptics are proven right. If Sudan did hand bin Laden over, then Mr. Clinton would strike a blow against international terrorism.
And, of course, Sudan did make good on its word to expel bin Laden from that country in May 1996 — at the Clinton administration's request. If Sudan could expel bin Laden, why couldn't it arrest him?
mSudan's intelligence files. Some Clinton administration officials deny that Sudan offered to provide its intelligence files on bin Laden. In my research, I've uncovered letters by senior Sudanese officials, including one from that nation's president, addressed to President Clinton, top Clinton officials and senior members of Congress expressly offering those files. Besides, Secretary of State Madeleine Albright announced in September 1997 that she was sending a team to Sudan to re-engage Sudan on terrorism issues. They planned to examine those files. That promising initiative was overturned by the White House six days later. Whose fault was that?
mThe USS Cole. They admit that "al Qaeda was a prime suspect," but say more investigation was needed to prove bin Laden guilty. They ignore that the CIA had traced phone calls from the attackers to a house in Yemen and from that house to bin Laden's satellite phone, and traced $5,000 sent to the terrorists from bin Laden. Yes, the investigation was ongoing, but that should have been enough. They forget that America's enemies are not in a court of law, but are waging war on us. And, even if they weren't sure that bin Laden was behind the attack, there was blood on his hands. Bin Laden's network killed 59 Americans in the Clinton years. The retaliation plan developed by the Clinton administration would have smashed all of his terrorist infrastructure in Afghanistan — less than a year before September 11.
After September 11, some Clinton officials admitted their mistakes. Jamie Gorelick, a deputy attorney general in the Clinton Justice Department, told the Boston Globe: "Clearly, not enough was done. We should have caught this. Why this happened, I don't know . . . We should have prevented this." Nancy Soderberg, a member of Clinton's National Security Council, added: "In hindsight, it wasn't enough, and anyone involved in policy would have to admit that."
Madeleine Albright recently told Bill O'Reilly, "?do you think we're so stupid that, if somebody had offered us Osama bin Laden, we would haven't taken it?"
Madam Secretary, that is now for the American people to judge.

Richard Miniter is the author of the New York Times bestseller "Losing bin Laden: How Bill Clinton's Failures Unleashed Global Terror" (Regnery, Sept. 2003) and a senior fellow at the Centre for the New Europe in Brussels

http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/20030922-090028-4916r.htm


And the offer has been confirmed by Klintoon himself, the NewsMax story below has a link to an audio recording of him admitting the offer was made.

In a Feb. 15, 2002, speech to the Long Island Association, Mr. Clinton revealed:

"We'd been hearing that the Sudanese wanted America to start dealing with them again. They released him.

"At the time, 1996, he had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here because we had no basis on which to hold him, though we knew he wanted to commit crimes against America.

"So I pleaded with the Saudis to take him, 'cause they could have. But they thought it was a hot potato and they didn't and that's how he wound up in Afghanistan." [End of Excerpt]

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/3/23/102636.shtml

And finally, here's the Audio Clip of Klintoon admitting the offer was made and was genuine:

http://www.newsmax.com/clinton2.mp3


Do you have any evidence that Klintoon was lying when he made this admission? Take your time.
 
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You ask us to go read a book (that you don't even quote from) and then don't even look at the links that are provided for you on the thread you are reading.

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In public he says they "ignored terrorism for months".
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He does? Please identify the date and place where he said that Bush "ignored terrorism for months." If he stated this in his book, please identify the page number.

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Taurus, thanks for the link to the CBS story about Clarke. "I find it outrageous that the President is running for re-election on the grounds that he's done such great things about terrorism. He ignored it." --Richard Clarke.

Have you looked in the mirror lately...Or better yet your posts?

Taurus"CIA", I see you're in touch with your anger.

Luke, thanks for the cite to the articles. That's what I was looking for. There should be enough of a papertrail for us to determine the validity of the claims so that we don't have to rely on the word of Mansoor Ijaz.

But U.S. authorities repeatedly turned the data away, first in February 1996; then again that August, when at my suggestion Sudan's religious ideologue, Hassan Turabi, wrote directly to Clinton; then again in April 1997, when I persuaded Bashir to invite the FBI to come to Sudan and view the data; and finally in February 1998, when Sudan's intelligence chief, Gutbi al-Mahdi, wrote directly to the FBI.

I wonder if those docs have been declassified yet.

Looks like Richard Miniter's Losing Bin Laden: How Bill Clinton's Failures Unleashed Global Terror might have the details on the story of the Sudanese offer. (Miniter reviewed his own book on Amazom.com. Kinda wierd if you ask me.)

In a Feb. 15, 2002, speech to the Long Island Association, Mr. Clinton revealed:

Interesting, but not an admission that the Sudanese gov. made a firm offer to arrest OBL and turn him over to the feds. We know that the Sudanese gov and the feds were talking in '96 about the possibility of improving relations. This was before OBL had been indicted in the US.

DCI Tenet testified 17 October 2001 before Congress that the CIA "has no knowledge of such an offer." Did Tenet lie before Congress? If so, why does Bush keep him on as DCI? HHmm...might be interesting if a US Attorney convened a grand jury.
 
There should be enough of a papertrail for us to determine the validity of the claims so that we don't have to rely on the word of Mansoor Ijaz.

Yet your MORE than willing to rely on the words of Richard Clarke when they support your "I hate Bush" views, no matter how many contradictory statements he's made and the fact that he's making estimates of 1 million dollars on his book and is trying to get a movie deal.

DCI Tenet testified 17 October 2001 before Congress that the CIA "has no knowledge of such an offer." Did Tenet lie before Congress? If so, why does Bush keep him on as DCI? HHmm...might be interesting if a US Attorney convened a grand jury.

Since, according to the articles, the offer was made directly to Clinton and NSA Sandy Berger, the CIA may very well have no knowledge of any offer.

Your gonna' have to do a better job of spinning than that in trying to make the Bush Administration the bad guy on this one!
 
Taurus"CIA", I see you're in touch with your anger.

Unfortunately we are all in touch with your bias against the current administration.

You make an accusation either directly or via a link posted to support your position. Then when it is determined that there is a lot of theory but no facts you decide that you were not implying the position was true in the first place.

Just say, "Hey, I read this and this is what I think about."

Don't try to state something as factually true when you don't have any proof and then spin around for days proving nothing.
 
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In fact, the monumental foolishness of concluding that we could have quelled terrorism by simply tracking down Bin Laden is almost breathtaking. It is precisely what people have been calling the "criminal justice paradigm" that had failed utterly under Clinton, and that Bush has turned around.


Paradigm, smearadime. Targeting the enemy's command and control is a tried and tested method of reducing his ability to wage war.

Two points. Command/control for the Al Qaeda network isn't exactly the same as command/control for the historical enemies you must be referencing, and the fact that you don't perceive the distinction continues to take my breath away. In addition, the strategy, so constructed, defines "the enemy" far too narrowly to be ultimately effective. I'm not sure why this isn't obvious, to tell the truth. Indeed, it now appears that a strategic alliance has started to form between the "New Left" and totalitarian Islamism. As Wretchard, at The Belmont Club elegantly puts it:

There remains a third answer. That the existence of these two great religious totalitarianisms -- one secular only in name and the other religious only in dissimulation -- is required for their mutual defeat. It relies on the observation that both the Left and Islamism react together to produce an extremely toxic combination which neither could have achieved alone. It takes some reflection to remember just how far both the notions of Islamism and Leftism have moved since September 11. The former was an unknown towards which the man in the street would have been indifferent while the latter was a kind of eccentricity, rough yet without danger. Neither will be again. Both have mutated in interaction or perhaps have become that which they really were.

Both are struggling for the space in which conservatism can never go and for the prize which no sane man ever covets: the dominion of souls. Without their mutual presence either could have occupied a kind of cultural sanctuary in which they would brood, proof against interference from people with simple day jobs. Together they guarantee that their places of safety, every media outlet, every school and every place of worship will be transformed into arenas of unparalleled ferocity -- to the possible benefit of the world. Is the Global War on Terror necessarily against the Left? We shall see. We shall see.
 
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