Russian Mosin 91-30 Accuracy

[rondog]

Just remember they're "minute-of-man" rifles, not target rifles. They'll do the accuracy they were built for.

 

[lionking]

Been so long since I shot them and I never did finish testing them with different ammo and grain but based on my pics looking at them My 1939 Tula does decent with light ball.

I also have a Tula hex beautiful rifle laminated with a nice shiny bore but my test firing of it was so bad that I didn't even want to post results the groupings were the size of the whole paper target not even the size of the ring.

Just never know with a surplus 91/30. The crap shoot of buying one was ok when they were $100 but now that they are running 3 times that much I wouldn't want to drop $300 or more on one before test firing it.

For that kind of money now I would tell someone go get a Finish Mosin or Swiss K31 instead or pay some more and get a nice Swedish Mauser with those choices you are more certain to get a nice shooting rifle.

 

[Vern Humphrey]

The first thing I would do is slug the barrel to find out the diameter of the bore...they vary alot...most surplus is between .310 and .311

The ammo quality counts for more than the rifle when it comes to accuracy.

Those two posts give you your answer -- shoot quality ammo with bullets that match your bore -- your bullet diameter should equal the GROOVE diameter of the bore. So for best results, you may have to handload.

 

[razorback2003]

Yeah I kind of thought a group in a 2 inch square at 50 yards was decent for the kind of open sights that are on the rifle and the heavy trigger, especially with that cheaper Monarch steel case 180 grain ammo. I'll have to go out and shoot 100 yards to see what happens. I think the Enfield rifles and old WW2 Springfields had better sights than this rifle, better safety, and smoother actions, but this Russian Mosin Nagant is a functional rifle.

 

[Ash]

The best 91/30 you can get are the Finnish versions. They have an outstanding trigger (many captured Soviet rifles will have this) and the barrels are Tikka made. As to safety, once you are used to it, it works well and very quiet.

 

[Holescreek]

How does a Finnish Mosin trigger differ from a Russian Mosin trigger?

 

[farmerboy78]

The trigger weight is less, the geometry of the oposing surfaces are different, and no where near the travel... it makes it a better trigger all the way around...the trigger is the best upgrade you can do to a mosin...

 

[Vern Humphrey]

I think the Enfield rifles and old WW2 Springfields had better sights than this rifle, better safety, and smoother actions, but this Russian Mosin Nagant is a functional rifle.

The Enfield MK IV No. 1 (the WWII version) with its peep sight, and the M1903A3 Springfield, also with a peep sight, are best-in-class when it comes to military bolt actions.

 

[Holescreek]

The trigger weight is less, the geometry of the oposing surfaces are different, and no where near the travel... it makes it a better trigger all the way around...the trigger is the best upgrade you can do to a mosin...

Thanks, I'm in the process of building a target Mosin from parts, am looking for changes/mods to fix the original before I have to spring for the Timney (but the side safety would be nice).

 

[farmerboy78]

If you can find one, look for a Finnish m 27 or a m28/76 trigger, but make sure it's complete with the sear/spring... it is a target trigger

 

[Ash]

Every Finn I have owned had a nice two-stage trigger.

 

[Holescreek]

I found some good pics of the Finn triggers here on the site in an old thread from 2008/11 in case anyone is interested.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=334979&page=43

 

[Ohio Gun Guy]

They can hit a cold german at 300 yards....

Historically proven.


Seriously, I own several and 3-4-5 inches good at 100 yard (Ive only ever shot the surplus ammo in them, as they come, no modifications) The front sight is a limiting factor. At 100yds it's wider than the impact area, so it will hit what you line up and can see with the sight, it's just hard to group. They will often shoot High at 100 yds too, fyi.

 

[TimboKhan]

Vern, I disagree somewhat. I think the Swedish Mauser is the best bolt action military rifle. Enfield and the Springfield are great, but the Mauser is more accurate and simpler.