Ryan Frederick REVISITED

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Did Police Shoot At Ryan Frederick? His Family Thinks SoThe hands of six Chesapeake detectives present at the botched marijuana raid on Ryan Frederick's house have tested positive for "primer residue," meaning they had traces of chemicals on their hands sometimes left behind when a person fires a gun, according to a lab report filed in court.

The lab report also said the residue can be left if a person is near weapon as it fires, or if a person handles a weapon with primer residue already on it. Police have insisted no officers fired during the Jan. 17 raid where police went looking for marijuana. Police contend Frederick alone opened fire, with one bullet killing narcotics detective Jarrod Shivers.

Frederick also had primer residue on both hands, according to the report.

Police refused to comment on the lab report Tuesday.

Meanwhile, Frederick's family revealed a bullet hole inside the home they say was caused by police fire. The hole passes through a corner by Frederick's back bedroom. Family members said, and Frederick's attorney confirmed, that police went to the home days after the shooting and plugged the hole with some kind of putty or filler. Defense investigators have pictures of the hole before and after the filler was added, according to attorney James Broccoletti. Police would not comment on that, nor answer any other questions for this story.

A second lab report shows Frederick's Bersa Firestorm .380 pistol is the gun that fired the fatal bullet, as well as a second bullet found by police. There is no indication in the court file where police found the second bullet. The state crime lab also did some testing on a .223 Remington cartridge found in Frederick's home. However, the lab did not do DNA testing on the cartridge nor is there any indication what kind of weapon fired the round, according to the paperwork. Police search warrants do not show officers located any weapon in Frederick's home capable of firing a .223 round.

Chesapeake police spokeswoman Christina Golden confirmed some officers are issued Bushmaster M4 Patrol Rifles, which shoot .223-caliber ammunition.

Frederick is charged with capital murder. Police say he shot Shivers moments after narcotics detectives used a battering ram to knock a hole in Frederick's front door. Police have testified Shivers was standing at the bottom of the home's front steps when the bullet hit him.

Frederick says he was awakened by a commotion at his front door. He says he believed it was burglars breaking in and he fired to protect himself.

Police were at Frederick's house looking for what an informant described as a complex marijuana-growing operation in the shed behind his home. Police found only enough marijuana to charge Frederick with a misdemeanor. However, prosecutors later upped the charge to a felony, saying Frederick intended to grow and distribute marijuana.

Prosecutors have until Friday to decide if they will pursue the death penalty.
it is only with great reluctance I bring this up since the last thread got so heated. So lets keep the basis for the search warent and the pot plants out of this and focus on the shooting. So what if the cops did shoot back. It does not change the fact that Frederick shot Shivers through the front door. The bullet hole they speak of could not have been fired from the front door area it was down the hall well around the corner from the front door. I see the events after Frederick shot Shivers to be null and void in his murder charge. It is obvious that this would have happened after shivers was killed.

Oh yeah nomex suit on behind a sheild made of dragon scales.........FLAME ON!!!
 
wow 3 hours and no one has anything to say? tough crowd tonight...............
 
Police were at Frederick's house looking for what an informant described as a complex marijuana-growing operation in the shed behind his home. Police found only enough marijuana to charge Frederick with a misdemeanor. However, prosecutors later upped the charge to a felony, saying Frederick intended to grow and distribute marijuana.

[sincerity] Only the police and military can be trusted with guns. [/sincerity]
 
Nice of the police to redecorate the inside of the house. I wonder if they replaced the front door?
 
June 13th.

http://www.reason.com/blog/show/126939.html

The raid was conducted based solely on the word of a confidential informant. Police made no attempt to buy drugs from Frederick. A couple of weeks ago, local TV station WTKR identified the police informant in the case, a 20-year-old man named Steven who had several charges pending against him at the time of the raid, was dating the sister of Frederick's fiance, and had a standing grudge with Frederick. The station reported that Frederick and his friends and family believe Steven was the one who broke into Frederick's home the same week of the raid.

Last week I received a tip that there may have been a second man involved in the break-in at Ryan Frederick's house. My source has spoken to the man a few times over the last few months, and says the man has confirmed not only that he and Steven together broke into Frederick's house at the behest of the police, but that the two had been working as paid police informants for months—and had actually broken into several houses around Chesapeake, all with the blessing of Chesapeake police officers.
 
first of all please post a link to the original quoted story...

secondly... if someone is forcefully entering your house while yelling "police" how are you to know that they are actually cops? i dont know about SD laws in his state, but here in NC you are totally allowed to shoot to stop someone from breaking in to your house, and that includes firing through the door while people are attempting to kick it down...


in addition, if what is stated in the story
The lab report also said the residue can be left if a person is near weapon as it fires, or if a person handles a weapon with primer residue already on it. Police have insisted no officers fired during the Jan. 17 raid where police went looking for marijuana. Police contend Frederick alone opened fire, with one bullet killing narcotics detective Jarrod Shivers.

turns out that the cops are lying... then it calls into question their other statements including weather they really had an 'informant' (anyone remember the grandmother in atlanta)... or if they identified themselves before entering...
 
I dont see why its really relevant but here you go http://www.wtkr.com/global/story.asp?s=8513927

as far as the shot maybe the 223 round was not fired by the cops and the wall was already damaged before this incident happened. Also so what if they have before and after pics dosnt prove anythign at all. They could have fixed the hole themselves. No real evidence or proof either way.

Then again like I said even if the cops did shoot back Shivers was already dead it really has no effect on the murder charge.
 
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