Shadow 7D
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if you want to get into 10mm, this is the gun for it.
S&W 1006 info?
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if you want to get into 10mm, this is the gun for it.
meanmrmustard
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I'd argue that the G20 SF is probably a better choice.
Bush Pilot
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Why? I've got both and prefer the 1006 over my Glock. Better accuracy and more comfortable to shoot with comparable loads.
ZeSpectre
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Yes.
I HATE YOU! <just kidding>.
Seriously though, keep it clean and lightly lubed and you'll have it forever regardless of the rounds you run through it.
DO replace the recoil springs at a fairly regular interval (say every 2k rounds) because that is a lot of energy being handled (and springs are dirt cheap)
jerkface11
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I already have a G20.
Shadow 7D
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Haven't handled a 20SF, but I did molest a G20, and well.
I think bricks have better ergo's than that thing
and the 1006 I handled, it's got the feel to it.
I think bricks have better ergo's than that thing
and the 1006 I handled, it's got the feel to it.
meanmrmustard
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That's where the SF trumps the standard frame. There's a better grip for smaller hands, and the handling is better overall.
Plus, the higher capacity makes one grin.
jerkface11
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The 1006 weighs more empty than the G20 does fully loaded.
MachIVshooter
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Maybe if you're a Glockophile. I have both, and if I had to choose, it would be an easy decision. Only one of my five 10mm handguns has never jammed, and it ain't the Glock.
As long as you're only shooting moderate loads and not re-using any brass, maybe.
meanmrmustard
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I guess with me, I prefer having a higher cap gun in that chambering on hand. The 20, to me, is softer shooting and sits low in the hand.
I haven't jammed a Glock yet. I don't beat them up, but nothing I throw at them makes them quit. If I hadn't had to sell my last G20, I'd still be enjoying it.
I also disagree about accuracy: one guy shoots one more accurate than the other, doesn't really prove a whole lot to me.
I think, though I may be wrong; these days there are more parts available for the Glock AND they're cheaper AND still being made.
Edit to add: You can get a MechTech upper for the Glock. Instant carbine.
I haven't jammed a Glock yet. I don't beat them up, but nothing I throw at them makes them quit. If I hadn't had to sell my last G20, I'd still be enjoying it.
I also disagree about accuracy: one guy shoots one more accurate than the other, doesn't really prove a whole lot to me.
I think, though I may be wrong; these days there are more parts available for the Glock AND they're cheaper AND still being made.
Edit to add: You can get a MechTech upper for the Glock. Instant carbine.
meanmrmustard
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Heavier recoil spring.
Nice gun. Second toughest 10mm auto made. Star Megastar is the toughest, strongest.
Seems like the biggest problem with the 1006 is the same problem with all 10mm pistols.
That problem would be finding actual 10mm ammo. Not that .40 Long ammo so often encountered now. Real, honest to God, rip-snorting, full power 10mm ammo.
Of course, the 610 revolver is one helluva tough 10mm, too. It just doesn't fit into the category of autopistol.
Seems like the biggest problem with the 1006 is the same problem with all 10mm pistols.
That problem would be finding actual 10mm ammo. Not that .40 Long ammo so often encountered now. Real, honest to God, rip-snorting, full power 10mm ammo.
Of course, the 610 revolver is one helluva tough 10mm, too. It just doesn't fit into the category of autopistol.
Bush Pilot
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Problem finding 10mm ammo? Buy yourself a magic blue machine, it'll crank out ammo faster than you can shoot. I don't understand people who won't reload because they think it's too "difficult" or "don't have the time". I guess you'll have the time when ammo is either too expensive or unavailable. Nevermind, we're there now.
Does nothing about case support. A replacement barrel is the usual prescription.
I'm not saying the Glock isn't good. It's just not the tank that the 1006 is. If what you want to do is run 10mm rounds that approach the original Norma loads, then the 1006 is hard to beat.
Elkins45
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Have a case failure in a S&W and you might have to replace the grips and maybe the magazine. Do the same in the Glock and you'll likely have to buy a new frame. I did.
The Glock is a good choice if you're only shooting factory ammo or shooting downloaded to 40 S&W speeds. If you wish to resuse your brass or load to original 10mm levels then it's not the best choice.
The Glock is a good choice if you're only shooting factory ammo or shooting downloaded to 40 S&W speeds. If you wish to resuse your brass or load to original 10mm levels then it's not the best choice.
meanmrmustard
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Lone Wolf is a quick fix.
meanmrmustard
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That's your fault though. It's no mystery that the chamber isn't fully supported in the stock barrel.
meanmrmustard
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Unless you want a ported, threaded, or extended barrel to begin with.
I bought an extended, threaded Lone Wolf with a brake right off the bat, sold the OEM which helped quite a bit...so I was only out a weeks time, $65, and I was "ready to rock" with a pretty nice setup. That was still cheaper than a used 1006 at the time. Plus, I had warranty, after market support, and parts available in nearly any gun shop around to fire full fledged 10 Auto.
SharpsDressedMan
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Downside? If you damage parts on the 1006, particularly the barrel and/or bushing, those and other parts are getting harder to find, and may go the way of the dodo bird in the next 5-8 years.
jerkface11
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Barrel bushing??
MachIVshooter
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It's the heaviest and bulkiest, but not the strongest. Softer metal (typical spanish gun) and, IIRC, thinner chamber walls.
I still want a megastar, but the 1006 is far and away a superior firearm.
Acually 3rd Gens do have a seprate, replaceable barrel bushing. They are not supposed to be user serviceable but can/could be factory replaced.
I think there were/are a company or two that sold and installed aftermarket replacements.
Briley comes to mind.
I think there were/are a company or two that sold and installed aftermarket replacements.
Briley comes to mind.
Elkins45
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It didn't happen with a stock barrel. This particular case failed so far back that no barrel would have supported it. Swapping parts isn't always the answer.
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