S&W 586 vs Python

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Schmeky...

You are barking up the right tree...

I believe the Pythons edge is in the manner the barrel bore is made. Pythons have a slight decreasing diameter as the crown is approached. This ensures positive engraving of the rifling by the bullet.

But the real advantage that the Python barrels have is that they used a faster rate of twist and were (are) able to stablize the heavy bullets better. The Pythons used a 1:14, while most revolvers used 1:18. I don't know what rate of twist the 586 used, so I can't say for certin.

The Python's Trigger will get better as time goes on, by the way.
 
From my experiences, the Colts are to fondle, look at and then sell on Gunbroker for absurd amounts of money. For shooting, I'll take the S&W. Much better DA trigger, more durable and the cylinder and thumb latch "go the right way":neener:
 
See, this always happens.

1) Everyone saying the 586 is as good as a Python is wrong. Sorry, but you're just wrong. You may like your 586 but it doesn't even approach the quality level of the Python and was never intended to do so. The 586 (and 686) are working guns and were not meant to be... and are not... deluxe models like the Python. Simple truth, here. The Model 27 compares to the Python, not the 5/686.

2) Maybe a good smith can slick up the S&W action. That's not the point.

3) The Colt trigger system is different from the S&W. Most shooters prefer the S&W trigger feel, some favor the Colt, others don't care to choose. Again, this has nothing to do with the quality of the gun.

4) This old business about the Colt having a weak action is bull. The Colt system is more inclined to go out of time because it uses the cylinder hand to help hold the cylinder in place during firing but this hardly makes the action weak. It means the hand will wear out more quickly but many Colts go a long, long time without trouble.

Case in point: I have an Officers Model Target made in 1930. This gun was used for years in competition matches and has fired countless thousands of rounds. The action is just as tight and well-timed today as the day it left Hartford. Same for my 1949 Officers Model, my 1967 Official Police and my 1968 .357 Trooper. I have a Python made in 1975 that has never been fired with anything but full-power Magnum ammo (my handloads, not wimpy factory stuff) and it shows no sign of distress. Sure, individual guns may have problems as can any mechanical device, and I admit the Colt system is more likely to show wear faster, but it's ridiculous to say the Colts will absolutely brerak down or wear out in 1,000 rounds, or 10,000, or any particular number.

If you like your 5/686, fine. They are good guns. They are what they were meant to be. They were not meant to compare to the Python and they don't.

Jeff Cooper once said of the Python- "It's expensive because it should be."
 
SaxsonPig,

I never said the 586 was as good as a Python, but the 586/686 is an excellent revolver in its own right.

The article posted by JohnBT taught me alot about a Python, very informative.

We are all fortunate to be able to own some of the finest revolvers ever produced.
 
Ive got to add my 2 cents i have a 1960's colt Python and a 686 but i also have a smith 15, 686,66,36,43,victory,1917,model 20,and 4 triple lock 44, 10,629, and my favorite smith 625 mountain gun 45LC and a regestered mag. you are talking apples and oranges the python is a hand built firearm in the action and lock work. The smith is a factory gun. I dont shoot much magnum loads in any of my pistols but i have a 66 that has had around 2500 357 through it. My python is never carried but shot some at the range but in my view the python is the best built revolver out of the box. you want a fine piece of american craftsmanship the python is the best if you want a great carry or combat revolver the smiths are great.
 
A friend of mine traded into a Python and showed it to me.

It was a beautiful gun!

I checked the cylinder and raised it up and dry-fired it twice. The trigger was smooooooooth! I tried to dry-fire it a third time and the cylinder wouldn't turn. We opened the action and the firing pin had broken!

Never saw that on a Smith.
 
I've seen a couple of older Smiths with broken firing pins. Any mechanical device can and eventually will break something.
 
I wouldn't compare the 686 to a python. What I would compare it to is the Colt Trooper MKIII that I had. To me, the two were about on par with each other in terms of durability and action.

Todd
 
the colt cant hold a flash light for the smith, if you want a auto get a colt, if you want a revolver get a smith!:D csa
 
My 586 has a hammer mounted firing pin, so when you dry fire it, the hammer contacts the frame. The only thing this type of firing pin can hit is a primer.
 
I supose it all depends on how you define quality.

I love Pythons, BUUUUT they are not all that durable. Any L frame Smiff is much more durable. Also, there is slight stacking on the double action trigger pull of the Python. I dont like the fact that their tapered barrels shoot much slower than other revolvers. Yes, Pythons are quite accurate, but I've seen Smiffs that are every bit as accurate.

"Quality" means different things to different people.
 
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